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    We have heard and seen so many reports of incidents involving pollution, in recent years, and of the insidious nature of some of these polluting materials, that I, for one, am bewildered regarding what IS and what AIN"T.


    In the mid-1970s Love Canal became the subject of national and international attention after it was revealed in the press that the site had formerly been used to bury 21,000 tons of toxic waste by Hooker Chemical (now Occidental Petroleum Corporation).

    This dumpsite was in operation until 1953. During this time, 21,000 tons of chemicals such as "caustics, alkalines, fatty acids and chlorinated hydrocarbons from the manufacturing of dyes, perfumes, solvents for rubber and synthetic resins" were added.[9] These chemicals were buried at a depth of twenty to twenty-five feet.[5] After 1953, the canal was covered with soil, and vegetation began to grow atop the dumpsite.

    By 1978, Love Canal had become a national media event




    Times Beach is a ghost town in St. Louis County, Missouri, United States, located 17 miles (27 km) southwest of St. Louis and 2 mi (3 km) east of Eureka. Once home to more than two thousand people, the town was completely evacuated early in 1983 due to a dioxin contamination that made national headlines. It was the largest civilian exposure to dioxin in the country's history.

    On December 23, 1982, the EPA announced it had identified dangerous levels of dioxin in Times Beach's soil. Panic spread through the town, with many illnesses, miscarriages and animal deaths attributed to the dioxin.[2] President Ronald Reagan formed a dioxin task force. At the time, dioxin was hailed as "the most toxic chemical synthesized by man," based on its extreme toxicity in guinea pigs.

    On February 23, 1983, the EPA announced the town's buyout for $32 million.[2] Later, PCBs were also found in Times Beach soil. By 1985, the town was evacuated except for one elderly couple who refused to leave, and the site was quarantined[/B]Dioxin is commonly used to refer to :
    Dioxins and dioxin-like compounds, a diverse range of chemical compounds which are known to exhibit “dioxin-like” toxicity

    Polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) were widely used as dielectric and coolant fluids, for example in transformers, capacitors, and electric motors. Due to PCBs' environmental toxicity and classification as a persistent organic pollutant, PCB production was banned by the United States Congress in 1979 and by the Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pollutants in 2001.[1] According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), PCBs have been shown to cause cancer in animals, and there is also evidence that they can cause cancer in humans


    Agent Orange or Herbicide Orange (HO) is one of the herbicides and defoliants used by the U.S. military as part of its herbicidal warfare program, Operation Ranch Hand,[1] during the Vietnam War from 1961 to 1971. Vietnam estimates 400,000 people were killed or maimed, and 500,000 children born with birth defects as a result of the use of contaminated batches[2] of the compound.[3][4][5][6] The Red Cross of Vietnam estimates that up to 1 million people are disabled or have health problems due to contaminated Agent Orange.[7] The United States government has challenged these figures as being unreliable and unrealistically high.


    A 50:50 mixture of 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D, it was manufactured for the U.S. Department of Defense primarily by Monsanto Corporation and Dow Chemical. The 2,4,5-T used to produce Agent Orange was contaminated with 2,3,7,8-tetrachlorodibenzodioxin (TCDD), an extremely toxic dioxin compound. It was given its name from the color of the orange-striped 55 US gallon (208 l) barrels in which it was shipped, and was by far the most widely used of the so-called "Rainbow Herbicides".[4]
    During the Vietnam War, between 1962 and 1971, the United States military sprayed nearly 20,000,000 US gallons (76,000,000 l) of material containing chemical herbicides and defoliants mixed with jet fuel in Vietnam, eastern Laos and parts of Cambodia, as part of Operation Ranch Hand.[10][11] The program's goal was to defoliate forested and rural land, depriving guerrillas of cover; another goal was to induce forced draft urbanization, destroying the ability of peasants to support themselves in the countryside, and forcing them to flee to the U.S. dominated cities, thus depriving the guerrillas of their rural support and food supply.[
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    These are horrifying examples of what the results are from unbridaled deposition of dangerous materials into the environment. The damage depicted has already been done. What kind of policing effort might be relied upon to prevent future excursions of danger? Safeguards were ALREADY in place when the above events occurred. Shall we have a picnic at the site of Times Beach, now a recreational area, as we deliberate? jocular


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    Safeguards were ALREADY in place when the above events occurred.
    Safeguards? What do you mean by this? Inspections. Enforcement. Prosecution. Punishment. Did any of this stuff actually happen before catastrophe overtook the people affected?

    Legislation and regulations are only lip service until and unless someone with real power steps in, stops the dangerous activity and prevents any further such activity.


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    Was the brightly colored text necessary? That was interesting to read, but hard to read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja Pancakes View Post
    Was the brightly colored text necessary? That was interesting to read, but hard to read.
    Sorry! I was trying to separate several situations from one-another by coloring each differently. Thank you for commenting on it. I will seek other means of separation down the road. jocular
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    "The EPA revisited and tested the soil at the Route 66 State Park in June 2012. On November 19, 2012 it was reported that 'Soil samples from Route 66 State Park show no significant health risks for park visitors or workers.'"

    Well, now. That's nice.
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