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    I just saw this article and video accompanying it.

    I am interested in knowing what other possibilities there are. Can a strain of hiv be modified to kill other strains of hiv? or possibly any other type of illness?

    Doctors Inject HIV Into Dying Girl -- You'll be Glad They Did



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    I saw this recently. Extraordinary and inspiring!


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    There's a sort of answer in the comments on the video.

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    On a separate note: If they can cure cancer with altered HIV, why can't they cure HIV with altered HIV? Does it threaten pharmaceutical companies' bottom line?

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    HIV virus, the size of it compared to a cell, is like a person in a football field. Getting enough HIV virus cells to attack cancerous cells is a miracle of a find in the field of pharmaceutical sciences. You're asking for altered HIV cells to search and destroy other HIV cells hiding in cells, like kids playing hide-and-go seek in a field the size of Mount Everest.


    I'm not sure that this person isn't using the metaphor in two different ways, but it works reasonably well if you don't overthink it.

    I'd be interested in their reasons for choosing HIV rather than some other virus for this purpose. It might just be an issue of what was available that had already been modified to be non-disease causing and able to attack other cells in other ways or it might be something about the size of the virus.
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    Just to clarify (hopefully I'm thinking of the same story), the modified HIV was used to alter the patient's t-lymphs which were then used to recognize and destroy the cancer cells.

    The "HIV" was not actually injected into the girl as seems to be said.
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    I read somewhere once that the HIV is very useful because of its structure for gene therapy.
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    That is immense. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
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    HIV virus, the size of it compared to a cell, is like a person in a football field. Getting enough HIV virus cells to attack cancerous cells is a miracle of a find in the field of pharmaceutical sciences. You're asking for altered HIV cells to search and destroy other HIV cells hiding in cells, like kids playing hide-and-go seek in a field the size of Mount Everest.


    I'm not sure that this person isn't using the metaphor in two different ways, but it works reasonably well if you don't overthink it.
    I'm no biologist, but is this technically true? Do viruses interact with cells simply via chance? Don't these cells use chemical marker and transmitters that can be picked up and used as guides? Wouldn't it be more like two kids playing Marco Polo in the Caspian Sea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
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    HIV virus, the size of it compared to a cell, is like a person in a football field. Getting enough HIV virus cells to attack cancerous cells is a miracle of a find in the field of pharmaceutical sciences. You're asking for altered HIV cells to search and destroy other HIV cells hiding in cells, like kids playing hide-and-go seek in a field the size of Mount Everest.


    I'm not sure that this person isn't using the metaphor in two different ways, but it works reasonably well if you don't overthink it.
    I'm no biologist, but is this technically true? Do viruses interact with cells simply via chance? Don't these cells use chemical marker and transmitters that can be picked up and used as guides? Wouldn't it be more like two kids playing Marco Polo in the Caspian Sea?
    I've actually never read anything about a process like this other than the host cell containing the appropriate receptor. I would be interested in reading about it if true and if anyone has any information or a link to share!
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    It's a risky operation,HIV is a horrible virus
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    talk about fighting fire with fire!
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