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    when i used to be a teenager the last thing i worried about was my hair it was so dense and thick that i literally wished it was a little bit less dense .

    for years i had a ponytail style golden hair and then i cut it and spiked it for 3 or 4 years using hair gel daily .

    like i said i never worried about it because it was dense and i thaught it will always be since my 80 years old maternal grandad has Elvis presly hair until now .

    everything seemed ok until recently when i turned 25 and all of a sudden realized my hair was'nt the same anymore i had lost some at the sides and the density wasn t the same. i decided to shave it off and the results weren t very pleasing .

    bottom line this isnt a personal story since i still have a lot of hair and i know by the time i will be severly bald transplant and rogaine would be a lot cheaper but i have some questions in biology :

    1-my father is bald in fact he was bald by my age but everyone else in all my family have very thick hair that resembles mine who has the greatest effect on me is it him or my maternal grandad specially because i have my grandad hair style and scalp ( i know that because i have a small lump on my head like he had and i had it removed.)

    2- can i lose some hair at the sides and then the receding would take a much slower road ?

    3- most of my friends of my age have lost a lot of hair in fact im one of the few who have kept this amount and we all wonder why is that happening since it wasnt like that at the times of our fathers is it environmental causes????

    4- finally i live in the middle east where balding is very common but i certainly would like to know if there are natural products i can use to stop or delay this if i was doomed to bald ( what should i eat ??? should i quit smoking and drinking and stressing up less often )

    last but no least i would appreciate if someone would explain to me the genetics of balding because through exessive reading i was able to deduce that balding gene i x linked and can be given only by maternal grandad yet there are two other autosomal genes that play a role what do these genes do do they tell how much bald u will be or when u start balding or what?????

    i would appreciate any help thank you!


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    BBC Radio 4 - Out of the Ordinary, Episode 1, Is a hair transplant a solution for baldness?


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    Quote Originally Posted by zatara View Post
    exessive reading
    Oxymoron.
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    I went through it, too.
    You're doomed.

    I just shave my head, anymore.
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    Hair is for people who are ashamed of their heads.
    Its the way nature is!
    If you dont like it, go somewhere else....
    To another universe, where the rules are simpler
    Philosophically more pleasing, more psychologically easy
    Prof Richard Feynman (1979) .....

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    "There is only one cure for baldness. It was invented by a Frenchman. It is called the guillotine."

    With apologies to PG Wodehouse.
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    I think that people are seen by others not so much as to what they look like but instead by how they get along with others that they know or meet in their lives. If others judge you by what you look like only then I'd avoid those people if possible. People should be liked or disliked by the way they interact with others and the way they treat others.
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    It's all down to the chance mixing of the genes from your two parents. My husband is now 70 and has what looks like a full head of hair, although it's starting to recede a little at the front - and it's not grey either. (But most of his beard is grey. It looks like plenty of hair now but it's nothing compared to 40 years ago.) His facial features are very like his father's - but his father was quite bald from his 40s onwards - and he had a superb classic combover of obviously dyed black hair from one ear to the other when I knew him. I'm here to tell you that bald as an egg is much, much more attractive than that particular strategy.

    Although there's little to see of his mother's features in his face or his physique, he has inherited her abundant hair with the added advantage of not going grey as she did. He never knew any of her relatives so there's no way to know whether he's just an anomaly or if men in either side of her family exhibited this same tendency.

    It's all down to testosterone and the luck of the genetic draw. My impression is that men of all races are as likely as not to go bald, some at fairly young ages. Both of my daughters' partners are showing some signs and they're around 30.
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    Epic fail- the combover.

    I have always wondered why- why-why-WHY anyone ever does that.
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    My brother started balding at the crown and as the years went on the circle widened. He always kept his hair very short (clippered) but he never let go of his hair completely and at this point he has a band of hair round his head about 4mm wide over his ears and then a bit deeper as it goes round the back. The thing is because he's quite a pale ginger colour the bit of hair he's got hasn't even been noticeable for about 15 years unless you get up close....... but he's determined to hang on to it bless him. But he still has a thick moustache that doesn't seem to have changed thickness or colour at all.
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    Epic fail- the combover.

    I have always wondered why- why-why-WHY anyone ever does that.
    My theory on this is; Every day the hapless person looks in the mirror and combs/brushes their hair. One day it starts to fall out, one by one. But the difference is very small and their mind gets "recalibrated" when looking in the mirror every day, so to the person it looks the same as it did yesterday. This continues until there are just a few strands combed across a bald pate. Their partners do not notice the gradual change either, so even they cannot tell their husbands.

    I too am folically challenged, and when it started to happen my world caved in. But now, with a very short crop I am very happy with it - it is very easy to look after - and it has not actually made anything worse - quite the opposite in fact; nudge nudge, wink wink!

    The key is though not to hide it. Cut it very short - a # 1 or 2 cut. You are going to look (very) different, but once you are used to it you will be fine.


    I wonder if the 'baldness' genes were actually selected by females chosing balding partners for some reason we can't think of; maybe as a sign of strength? For example; Alpha male 'silver back' Gorilla's hair turns white - and this is a sign of maturity, power and protection.


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    Quote Originally Posted by One beer View Post
    My theory on this is; Every day the hapless person looks in the mirror and combs/brushes their hair. One day it starts to fall out, one by one. But the difference is very small and their mind gets "recalibrated" when looking in the mirror every day, so to the person it looks the same as it did yesterday. This continues until there are just a few strands combed across a bald pate. Their partners do not notice the gradual change either, so even they cannot tell their husbands.
    Ah, but they must keep lowering the part-line over time...

    I wonder what they request at the barber shop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by One beer View Post
    I wonder if the 'baldness' genes were actually selected by females chosing balding partners for some reason we can't think of; maybe as a sign of strength? For example; Alpha male 'silver back' Gorilla's hair turns white - and this is a sign of maturity, power and protection.
    Or maybe slim pickin's after the heat wave following the ending of the Würm glaciation.
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    The last time I was on an airplane, it seemed that all the bald guys were wearing hats while seated on the plane.
    Which seemed really crazy to me. It was as though in their attempt to "cover up" their baldness, they were inadvertantly drawing attention to their baldness with those silly caps.

    I have a natural tonsure that became noticable about the time my wife became infertile, and lost her desire for sex. Which seemed appropriate at the time, and led to a few jokes on that theme. About the same time, I quit cutting my hair, which seems to grow in spurts, and follows the pattern of growing thicker and faster around the sides, and slower and thinner on top. Meanwhile, both of my brothers are chrome domes, with the younger one more so. When we were younger, both of them had hairs which each individual hair was thicker than mine, with the younger one having the thickest hairs.
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    is the thickness of a hair an indicator of future baldness?
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    Ah, but they must keep lowering the part-line over time
    Yeah, but they don't realise they are doing it over time - that is my point. Every day to them seems the same as yesterday, but after after say 5 years, their parting has moved down 3 inches.

    Someone who doesn't know them can instantly see how stupid they look, but the comb over-ees don't realise it themselves.

    Clip it short, people.


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    By the way, Never; don't tell me what I meant, there's a good chap. I did mean theory - which my dictionary defines as: 'Abstract knowledge or reasoning..... A conjectural point of view'. OB
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