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    That's the reason muslims give to why they wear socks when sleeping.
    Even my parents say so too (that its unhealthy).
    Having the fan blow to your feet is bad for you.
    Google comes out with very little information on this.

    I hope to clarify think here.




    1) Is it unhealthy? If yes, why, and what does it do?
    2) If its not healthy? Why do you think the rumours come about?


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    Google comes out with very little information on this.
    That should probably tell you something. Not all the weird beliefs of your parents have made it on to a website yet. But try again in a few hours and you will find at least one reference to it...


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    Without doing any research, I can't think of any reason that would make any sense. I don't plan on doing any research on this though
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    What did Muslims wear before socks were invented?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
    That's the reason muslims give to why they wear socks when sleeping.
    Even my parents say so too (that its unhealthy).
    Having the fan blow to your feet is bad for you.
    Google comes out with very little information on this.

    I hope to clarify think here.




    1) Is it unhealthy? If yes, why, and what does it do?
    2) If its not healthy? Why do you think the rumours come about?
    it depends on how bad your feet stink and how big strong and mean the person is that is down wind of your feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
    That's the reason muslims give to why they wear socks when sleeping.
    Even my parents say so too (that its unhealthy).
    Having the fan blow to your feet is bad for you.
    Google comes out with very little information on this.

    I hope to clarify think here.




    1) Is it unhealthy? If yes, why, and what does it do?
    2) If its not healthy? Why do you think the rumours come about?
    Having been a practicing Muslim before and having lived in a Muslim country, I never met one that insisted on wearing socks when sleeping unless it was cold. And it was not for religious reasons. it was because it was cold.

    Where do you get the understanding that having air blowing on your feet is unhealthy as being a Muslim belief? Perhaps it was a local superstition or a personal belief of a particular Muslim you knew.
    Speaking badly about people after they are gone and jumping on the bash the band wagon must do very well for a low self-esteem.
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    My grandmother said the same; only not about feet- but about a shirt. She said I shouldn't sleep bare-chested.

    The idea is that if you get too cold at night, it lowers your bodies defenses, as you're already working on a reduced heartrate when sleeping- making the body more open to invaders- the germ kind of invaders (Door locks while sleeping are for the other kind.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
    it depends on how bad your feet stink and how big strong and mean the person is that is down wind of your feet.
    my parents say the air will go into your feet, and into your body, and its bad...

    they said "风" will go into the feet.. and its harmful.
    and i shouldn't let "风" get into my feet when sleeping, by not sleeping with the fan blowing into my feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
    my parents say the air will go into your feet, and into your body, and its bad...
    Ah, that explains it.
    The rest of us aren't worried though, because humans don't breathe through their feet.
    I'm not sure about your species though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
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    and i shouldn't let "风"
    What is this: 风 ?
    On my screen, it looks like a box with a crooked x inside of it.
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    "风" is wind in chinese.

    they say air can enter your body through the feet, thats why its unhealthy.

    maybe there is another reason, but the are sure its unhealthy.
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    i still remember once i was sleeping topless with the fan blowing into my chest and i got a horrible stomach ache the next day.
    they say its because of the air going into my body through my chest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
    No. Those links refer to mysticism, like "Chi."

    I already told you the reason why it CAN cause a cold in post number 7.
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    so technically there is nothing unhealthy about blowing wind at your feet, right?

    other than #7, which is the very indirect cause of getting sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
    even my grandmother agrees...
    Then she's wrong too.

    http://www.itmonline.org/articles/feng/feng.htm
    The fact is that the illnesses of harm caused by wind start from the skin and its hair to enter the lung.
    Perhaps you should learn to read.
    That quote, as is CLEARLY stated in the link, comes from a 200 year old book.
    Plus the site is, by and large, a crank one. It's promoting Ayurvedic "medicine" and Naturopathic "medicine".

    maybe air enters through the pores/hairbuds?
    You mean the pores/ hairbuds that do NOT actually enter into the body but stop in the skin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
    so technically there is nothing unhealthy about blowing wind at your feet, right?

    other than #7, which is the very indirect cause of getting sick.
    Pretty much. Many hot summers I spent with a fan blowing on my feet to no ill effects.
    Do it in the winter, though and you might wake up with a sore throat
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    hey... most traditional medicine works effectively!
    i used traditional medicine before
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
    so technically there is nothing unhealthy about blowing wind at your feet, right?

    other than #7, which is the very indirect cause of getting sick.
    I wouldn't qualify it as "very" but post 7 by neverfly is the only cause. air will not enter into the body just by being on the skin
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
    hey... most traditional medicine works effectively!
    i used traditional medicine before
    By luck and experience, many traditional medicines can be beneficial. The problem you run into is that rather than really measuring out the benefits, the stuff was learned by trial and error and then assumed to be true.
    Traditional Medicine is the precursor to modern medicine, which also uses trials, but with much less assumption.
    The other problem with traditional medicines is that, in the old days when the common man was ignorant, some treatments needed to encouragement of his belief system to give him the confidence to accept the treatment.
    Entwining medicine with religion or spirituality made it more appealing to the ignorant that were still needing medical help.
    Your best bet is to compare traditional medicines against modern medicine findings and placebo effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
    hey... most traditional medicine works effectively!
    i used traditional medicine before
    What NF said.
    I'll quote Tim Minchin here (as much for his veracity as for his humour, and the fact that if you haven't heard of him you deserve to), this is a a couple of lines from his "beat poem", Storm:
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    On the other hand, in Japan it is generally thought that keeping your feet covered all the time will give you 水虫 (athlete's foot).

    The world is full of silly superstitions like this. A Polish friend is convinced that if you go outside after washing your hair, you will get pneumonia and die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
    my parents say the air will go into your feet, and into your body, and its bad...
    Don't your parents have any bedding? (Sheets, blanket, duvet, etc) Won't this protect you from the evil air ("mal aria")?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    The world is full of silly superstitions like this. A Polish friend is convinced that if you go outside after washing your hair, you will get pneumonia and die.
    And, for example, I'm utterly convinced that if I log on to The Science Forum I'll be dangerously exposed to crackpot ideas that will erode my good mood for the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    And, for example, I'm utterly convinced that if I log on to The Science Forum I'll be dangerously exposed to crackpot ideas that will erode my good mood for the day.
    No... that one might be true...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
    That's the reason muslims give to why they wear socks when sleeping.
    Even my parents say so too (that its unhealthy).
    This superstition/myth/urban legend seems to be sufficiently rare that, even though there seem to be a few people asking about it on the web, it is not debunked by Snopes.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    The world is full of silly superstitions like this. A Polish friend is convinced that if you go outside after washing your hair, you will get pneumonia and die.
    And, for example, I'm utterly convinced that if I log on to The Science Forum I'll be dangerously exposed to crackpot ideas that will erode my good mood for the day.
    My grandparents used to tell me that. The only thing I have ever experienced as a result of going out in with wet hair is a cold head, if done in the winter, otherwise, a slovenly hairstyle by the end of the day.
    Speaking badly about people after they are gone and jumping on the bash the band wagon must do very well for a low self-esteem.
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    deleted - duplicate. don't know why but lately the forum is double posting or at least trying to.
    Speaking badly about people after they are gone and jumping on the bash the band wagon must do very well for a low self-esteem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    What did Muslims wear before socks were invented?
    There may be local cultural beliefs but I doubt there's any general Islamic rule about or against wearing socks to bed.
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    Is it possible that you mean the "Fans will suffocate you in your sleep" myth? Because I know that somewhere, in some country, there is a widely held belief that fans will suffocate you in your sleep... Fan Death, that's what it's called - and it's a widely held belief in South Korea... Is it possible that is what you are talking about?
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    Oh yes! I had forgotten about that. Thanks for the reminder: Fan death - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Which links to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...misconceptions (aka, the Encyclopaedia of Stupid).
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    no im not talking about fan death...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
    no im not talking about fan death...
    Well, in a way, you are. You are talking about a baseless superstition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
    no im not talking about fan death...
    I noticed that you used a Chinese character earlier in this thread, by any chance are you Chinese or Chinese-American etc? Because according to the talk page for the Wiki article, there is a similar belief that some Chinese people have, ie: Fans left on while you are sleeping is 'unhealthy,' which is the same word you used to describe wind on feet (not to mention the example you used was a fan). All I can say is this, urban legends spread like wild fire. Ask any American, Canadian, and possibly Western European about the "two teenagers at lovers lane who met the criminally insane man with a hook for a hand" or about the "vanishing hitchhiker" - I'd imagine most would have heard about it. Urban legends just have a way of travelling, and each regional version tends to have its own flavour. Talk:Fan death - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    by the way, i sleep with no socks and a fan at my feet every single night and by all indications i'm healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stander-j View Post
    The reference to 歪嘴 at the end of that section reminds me of the English warning to kids when they are pulling faces, "if the wind changes direction you will be stuck like that".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    The reference to 歪嘴 at the end of that section reminds me of the English warning to kids when they are pulling faces, "if the wind changes direction you will be stuck like that".
    Oh hey it is pretty similar isn't it? I totally forgot about that making faces one.
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    perhaps this is what parents are talking about?
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    I dont know..

    i put a wikipedia link on Rheumatism, because i discussed with them yesterday about this issue they are talking about.
    they said they were talking about Rheumatism.

    so i googled it and found a page on it on wikipedia.

    so they are talking nonsense?
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    i keep telling them (im doing it right now) and they just keep saying "You cannot don't believe what the old people say."

    i give up.. i think my parents won.
    i dont know what to say back.
    they keep saying that "old people have more experience than me."

    wtf?
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    I feel for you. But one day you will be older. And, hopefully, better informed than your parents.
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    my parents ... keep saying that "old people have more experience than me."
    You/they come from a society where children respect their parents more compared, say, to American or European societies.

    Chinese culture has children very much realizing they are dependent on their parents, whereas when the parents grow old, the children reciprocate by taking care of them. It's all changing of course due to drastic family policies in China, but the greater inter-generational reverence continues compared to America and Europe. There's also the family as a social unit in China compared to the individual being the social unit in America and Europe. Thus, there's more shame/honor for a family in China due to what one member does than in America and Europe. There's also the ancestor worship somewhat common in China but not at all in America and Europe.

    Even something as seemingly harmless as the Chinese writing system causes Chinese children to depend on what adults tell them more than American/European alphabetic and sound-dependent writing systems because the Chinese characters don't provide as much information as to their pronunciation as alphabetic/sound-dependent systems do. Chinese children are less able to "sound out" an unknown character than their American/European counterparts. Thus, Chinese children must ask adults more often (than American/European children) what a character is because, even though they may have heard the word and know what it means, they cannot as easily connect the character to the spoken word.

    So there's much more dependence of children on their parents in China than in America and Europe. Thus, the stronger philosophy in China to "mind you parents" because they [supposedly] know better. So, yeah, they probably won, at least in their own minds, and you have less chance of convincing them to change their minds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrmonroe View Post
    Even something as seemingly harmless as the Chinese writing system causes Chinese children to depend on what adults tell them more than American/European alphabetic and sound-dependent writing systems because the Chinese characters don't provide as much information as to their pronunciation as alphabetic/sound-dependent systems do.
    Arguable. Especially when you compare with English. And they make up for whatever lack of phonetic information they have by providing some semantic information, which alphabetic systems don't.
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    I found a fatwa on that.
    Wearing socks to bed - Islam web - English

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    I'd like to know whether it is permissible to wear socks to bed. I haven't read anything anywhere that says it is not, but I have been told by elders that the Angels do not come if you are wearing socks while asleep. Please clarify the truth for me, so I can tell others and remove any misconceptions there may be.

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    Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds; and may His blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions.
    There is no objection to wearing socks while sleeping as there is no evidence for that. Moreover, saying that Angels do not enter a home where someone wearing socks is sleeping is not true as there is no evidence for it.
    However, the Maliki scholars dislike that the person wears socks and sleeps in them just to make sure that he could, when making Wudu later on, wipe on them instead of washing one's feet. They believe that the person who wears socks just for the purpose of Wudu is not permitted to wipe on them. He should rather wash his feet in Wudu.
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    Nice find. For those who don't know, wudu is the ritual cleaning required before prayers (this concept is common to many religions).
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    Nice find. For those who don't know, wudu is the ritual cleaning required before prayers (this concept is common to many religions).
    lol i actually knew lots of people who would wear socks so they didn't have to get their feet wet. I always thought it weird that people got freaked out over such a small splash of water on the feet. And you can tell which ones do that too. Because the ones that don't can take their shoes off in public without knocking out people with the stink. The ones that refuse to wet their feet had very smelly feet. You gotta hand it to Islam in this aspect. The Muslims who are diligent in doing prayer and wudu, rarely had body odor issues.

    I almost never wear socks, even now. I love having clean feet and looked forward to wudu when I was Muslim. lol. Freshening up, especially in the summer was a great incentive to not miss prayers.
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    semantic information, which alphabetic systems don't [have].
    Alphabetic systems do provide significant amounts of semantic information, we just don't teach it to little kids. For example, tele means "distant", and so we have telephone, television, telekinesis, telemarketing, etc. Or, scope means "see", and so we have microscope, kaleidoscope, periscope, oscilloscope, etc. If someone didn't know the word telescope, they could make an accurate guess at its meaning.

    Although I hardly know Spanish, I once helped translate a person's diary from Spanish to English. Interestingly, the unfamiliar longer words usually provided plenty of semantic (and phonetic) information for me, but I would get hung up on the unfamiliar shorter words (which typically get corrupted over the years).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrmonroe View Post
    Alphabetic systems do provide significant amounts of semantic information, we just don't teach it to little kids. For example, tele means "distant", and so we have telephone, television, telekinesis, telemarketing, etc. Or, scope means "see", and so we have microscope, kaleidoscope, periscope, oscilloscope, etc. If someone didn't know the word telescope, they could make an accurate guess at its meaning.
    Good point. I was only thinking of the letters, rather than the morphemes. This makes the two systems more equal.
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    semantic information, which alphabetic systems don't [have].
    Alphabetic systems do provide significant amounts of semantic information, we just don't teach it to little kids. For example, tele means "distant", and so we have telephone, television, telekinesis, telemarketing, etc. Or, scope means "see", and so we have microscope, kaleidoscope, periscope, oscilloscope, etc. If someone didn't know the word telescope, they could make an accurate guess at its meaning.
    This was taught to me. I guess schools have changed a lot since I was a student.
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    This was taught to me. I guess schools have changed a lot since I was a student.
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    lies... lies.... parents telling lies thats baaaaaaaaaad!

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    lies... lies.... parents telling lies thats baaaaaaaaaad!
    Don't condemn them so quickly.
    There's a difference between lying and simply passing on something they themselves been told and have never queried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanawe123 View Post
    lies... lies.... parents telling lies thats baaaaaaaaaad!

    And Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the tooth fairy are fake too.

    And people wonder why teens stop trusting their parents. Because they start realizing how many lies their parents have told them. I have always told my kids the truth. There is no Santa, no tooth fairy, no Easter bunny, and as soon as I figured it out, that there is no god. And that I don't know everything. Now my teens are pretty darned trusting of me compared to their friends and their parents.
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