Thread: Healthy or not?

Hi guys, I was just wondering if there is something wrong with my food choices. Ever since I was a kid, now I am currently 32, I've been only eating meat. I don't eat vegetables and sea food. But my health is still in very good condition. Is it possible that I am living a healthy life without the help of vegetables?

Hello freethinker and welcome to the forum.

I would be most interested in hearing what a weekly menu plan is for you as it seems rather hard to imagine anyone, even Inuit peoples, eating 'only meat'. Perhaps you could share some of those details if you like to further the discussion.

Inuit consume a diet of foods that are fished, hunted, and gathered locally. This may include walrus, Ringed Seal, Bearded Seal, beluga whale, caribou, polar bear, muskoxen, birds (including their eggs) and fish. While it is not possible to cultivate plants for food in the Arctic the Inuit have traditionally gathered those that are naturally available. Grasses, tubers, roots, stems, berries, fireweed and seaweed (kuanniq or edible seaweed) were collected and preserved depending on the season and the location.

Inuit diet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why, thank you scheherazade

Here's what I ate as far as I can remember last week.

Sunday- Spam with eggs for breakfast, ribs with sweet potato for lunch, 3 slices of peperoni pizza for dinner
Saturday- Bacon cheeseburger for breakfast, Chicken for lunch, 2 pieces of porkchops for dinner
Friday- Bacon omelette for breakfast, sausages for lunch, shanghai rolls for dinner
Thursday- Cordon bleu for breakfast, Beef stew for lunch, chicken for dinner

That's as far as I can remember..

Good grief! That's a bit boring. When you say 'stew' does that include the standard veg like carrots and onions and so on?

As for your 'living a healthy life' without vegetables .... The husband of one of my relatives had a diet a bit like yours. Lots of meat, refused to eat any veg except peas, carrots and potatoes. Couple of rounds of golf every week, put on a bit of weight from mid-30s onwards. His wife tried to sneak in more vegetables - putting them through the blender to make gravy and the like - but she was fighting an uphill battle.

Now? He's 43 and diabetic.

If I were you I'd find interesting ways to cook veg and salads and gradually increase your intake and definitely decrease the meat, bacon, egg proportions of your diet. The human body is pretty resilient but it can only take so much punishment.

I hate to break it to you but sweet potato is a vegetable, pizza crust is grain based, and shanghai wraps likewise. Although you do eat a lot of meat, there is some diversity in your diet.
May I ask what else was in the beef stew besides the beef? Most stew recipes incorporate some other ingredients.

Eating a lot of red meat (and I mean a lot) gives you a higher chance of cancer.

Originally Posted by scheherazade

I hate to break it to you but sweet potato is a vegetable, pizza crust is grain based, and shanghai wraps likewise. Although you do eat a lot of meat, there is some diversity in your diet.
May I ask what else was in the beef stew besides the beef? Most stew recipes incorporate some other ingredients.

Well its weird cause you know how when a typical kid refuses to eat green veggies? That happened to me until I grew up. Maybe its psychological? I always have a weird feeling eating vegetables that are color green. But like what you said, sweet potato is vegtable and pizza crust and shanghai are grain based. Btw, the beef stew had onions, tomatoes and the like- I only ate the beef and some sauce.

Originally Posted by adelady

Good grief! That's a bit boring. When you say 'stew' does that include the standard veg like carrots and onions and so on?

As for your 'living a healthy life' without vegetables .... The husband of one of my relatives had a diet a bit like yours. Lots of meat, refused to eat any veg except peas, carrots and potatoes. Couple of rounds of golf every week, put on a bit of weight from mid-30s onwards. His wife tried to sneak in more vegetables - putting them through the blender to make gravy and the like - but she was fighting an uphill battle.

Now? He's 43 and diabetic.

If I were you I'd find interesting ways to cook veg and salads and gradually increase your intake and definitely decrease the meat, bacon, egg proportions of your diet. The human body is pretty resilient but it can only take so much punishment.

I will take note. Yes, I must find ways to cook veg and salads and insert them into my diet.


Thanks for the advice, I have to start as early as possible..

Originally Posted by pyoko

Eating a lot of red meat (and I mean a lot) gives you a higher chance of cancer.

Oh my...

You say you don't eat veg. What about fruit?

Do you eat fruit, freethinker? What about soups? Fruit or veggie juices?

When you ate the sauce from the beef stew, you would be ingesting nutrients from the vegetables that were cooked with the meat.

There are fruits and veggies in many colors besides green to select from. I had one friend who didn't care for veggies with the exception of Caesar salad. He also liked many legumes and he ate Shreddies and milk every single breakfast.

White Bananas Brown pears Cauliflower Dates Garlic Ginger Jerusalem artickoke Jicama Kohlrabi Mushrooms Onions Parsnips Potatoes Shallots Turnips White Corn White nectarines White peaches

Red Beets Blood oranges Cherries Cranberries Guava Papaya Pink grapefruit Pink/Red grapefruit Pomegranates Radicchio Radishes Raspberries Red apples Red bell peppers Red chili peppers Red grapes Red onions Red pears Red peppers Red potatoes Rhubarb Strawberries Tomatoes Watermelon

Yellow/Orange Apricots Butternut squash Cantaloupe Cape Gooseberries Carrots Golden kiwifruit Grapefruit Lemon Mangoes Nectarines Oranges Papayas Peaches Persimmons Pineapples Pumpkin Rutabagas Sweet corn Sweet potatoes Tangerines Yellow apples Yellow beets Yellow figs Yellow pears Yellow peppers Yellow potatoes Yellow summer squash Yellow tomatoes Yellow watermelon Yellow winter squash

Blue/Purple Black currants Black salsify Blackberries Blueberries Dried plums Eggplant Elderberries Grapes Plums Pomegranates Prunes Purple Belgian endive Purple Potatoes Purple asparagus Purple cabbage Purple carrots Purple figs Purple grapes Purple peppers Raisins

Disabled World - Disability News for all the Family: Color Wheel of Fruits and Vegetables

Just that blue/purple column plus Tomatoes will turn you into Superman. scheherazadewill you find me a carer who will nourish me with all the goodies on yourblue/purple list plus tomatoes plus Weiners(saveloys) without the skin???. westwind.

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Do you eat fruit, freethinker? What about soups? Fruit or veggie juices?

When you ate the sauce from the beef stew, you would be ingesting nutrients from the vegetables that were cooked with the meat.

There are fruits and veggies in many colors besides green to select from. I had one friend who didn't care for veggies with the exception of Caesar salad. He also liked many legumes and he ate Shreddies and milk every single breakfast.

White Bananas Brown pears Cauliflower Dates Garlic Ginger Jerusalem artickoke Jicama Kohlrabi Mushrooms Onions Parsnips Potatoes Shallots Turnips White Corn White nectarines White peaches

Red Beets Blood oranges Cherries Cranberries Guava Papaya Pink grapefruit Pink/Red grapefruit Pomegranates Radicchio Radishes Raspberries Red apples Red bell peppers Red chili peppers Red grapes Red onions Red pears Red peppers Red potatoes Rhubarb Strawberries Tomatoes Watermelon

Yellow/Orange Apricots Butternut squash Cantaloupe Cape Gooseberries Carrots Golden kiwifruit Grapefruit Lemon Mangoes Nectarines Oranges Papayas Peaches Persimmons Pineapples Pumpkin Rutabagas Sweet corn Sweet potatoes Tangerines Yellow apples Yellow beets Yellow figs Yellow pears Yellow peppers Yellow potatoes Yellow summer squash Yellow tomatoes Yellow watermelon Yellow winter squash

Blue/Purple Black currants Black salsify Blackberries Blueberries Dried plums Eggplant Elderberries Grapes Plums Pomegranates Prunes Purple Belgian endive Purple Potatoes Purple asparagus Purple cabbage Purple carrots Purple figs Purple grapes Purple peppers Raisins

Disabled World - Disability News for all the Family: Color Wheel of Fruits and Vegetables

Why thank you!!! Far too kind


Yes, mushroom soup is my favorite and I do eat fruits especially oranges. I also drink fruit juices on the regular. I think this is enough movitvation for me to start eating non-green vegetables. Many thanks!

Originally Posted by westwind

Just that blue/purple column plus Tomatoes will turn you into Superman. scheherazadewill you find me a carer who will nourish me with all the goodies on yourblue/purple list plus tomatoes plus Weiners(saveloys) without the skin???. westwind.

I'll try it out

Saveloy was a new word to me, lol....

Here's what wikipedia has to say on the matter:

A saveloy is a type of highly seasoned sausage, usually bright red in colour, which is typically available in English fish and chips shops,^[1] sometimes fried in batter. The word is assumed to originate from the Swiss-French cervelas or servelat, ultimately from the Latin cerebrus; originally a pig brain sausage particularly associated with Switzerland.
The saveloy's taste is similar to that of a frankfurter or red pudding. It is mostly eaten with chips, but occasionally also in a sandwich accompanied with pease pudding, stuffing, mustard or the brine of the sausage (known as its "gravy"). This is known as a "saveloy dip" in the north east of England, especially the town of South Shields with its long established "pork shops", as one half of the bread roll is dipped in gravy, in a similar manner to the French dip sandwich.
The saveloy is available in Australia, where it is consumed at fairs, fêtes, agricultural shows and sporting events, served on a slice of bread or in a bread roll, and liberally covered in tomato sauce. It is sometimes battered and known as a "battered sav". The saveloy was originally known as a frankfurter in Australia until World War I^{[citation needed]}, when many German names of food and places were changed to more English sounding ones.
Saveloys are popular in New Zealand, where they are larger than the English type. Although they are sold at fish-and-chips shops as in England, they are commonly bought at butchers' shops or supermarkets and cooked by boiling at home. Saveloys are known colloquially as "savs". In fish-and-chip shops the traditional "hot-dog", which is a battered sausage on a stick, can be made from saveloy though more typically ordinary sausage. (A sausage in a long bread roll is called an "American hot dog" to distinguish it.) A beef version is found too. A "Cheerio" is a smaller version, about half the size, sometimes called a cocktail sausage, or a "little boy".^[2] These are a popular children's party food in New Zealand and Australia, often served hot in a sweet, spicy tomato sauce.

In our store we carry many types of weiners, smokies and salamies but none go by the name of saveloy. My personal favorite, eaten only in moderation, is Oktoberfest sausage with sauerkraut.



Oktoberfest sausages (credit: Merrit Island Oktoberfest )

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Saveloy was a new word to me, lol....

Here's what wikipedia has to say on the matter:

A saveloy is a type of highly seasoned sausage, usually bright red in colour, which is typically available in English fish and chips shops,^[1] sometimes fried in batter. The word is assumed to originate from the Swiss-French cervelas or servelat, ultimately from the Latin cerebrus; originally a pig brain sausage particularly associated with Switzerland.
The saveloy's taste is similar to that of a frankfurter or red pudding. It is mostly eaten with chips, but occasionally also in a sandwich accompanied with pease pudding, stuffing, mustard or the brine of the sausage (known as its "gravy"). This is known as a "saveloy dip" in the north east of England, especially the town of South Shields with its long established "pork shops", as one half of the bread roll is dipped in gravy, in a similar manner to the French dip sandwich.
The saveloy is available in Australia, where it is consumed at fairs, fêtes, agricultural shows and sporting events, served on a slice of bread or in a bread roll, and liberally covered in tomato sauce. It is sometimes battered and known as a "battered sav". The saveloy was originally known as a frankfurter in Australia until World War I^{[citation needed]}, when many German names of food and places were changed to more English sounding ones.
Saveloys are popular in New Zealand, where they are larger than the English type. Although they are sold at fish-and-chips shops as in England, they are commonly bought at butchers' shops or supermarkets and cooked by boiling at home. Saveloys are known colloquially as "savs". In fish-and-chip shops the traditional "hot-dog", which is a battered sausage on a stick, can be made from saveloy though more typically ordinary sausage. (A sausage in a long bread roll is called an "American hot dog" to distinguish it.) A beef version is found too. A "Cheerio" is a smaller version, about half the size, sometimes called a cocktail sausage, or a "little boy".^[2] These are a popular children's party food in New Zealand and Australia, often served hot in a sweet, spicy tomato sauce.

In our store we carry many types of weiners, smokies and salamies but none go by the name of saveloy. My personal favorite, eaten only in moderation, is Oktoberfest sausage with sauerkraut.



Oktoberfest sausages (credit: Merrit Island Oktoberfest )

The oktoberfest sausage with sauerkraut looks amazing!!

Sauerkraut is fermented cabbage, mildly tangy, good for your digestive health and the perfect compliment for a rich and slightly spicy sausage. My recommendation is a sauerkraut with only cabbage and salt as the listed ingredients to avoid the sulphites in most vinegars and wines that are sometimes used.

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Sauerkraut is fermented cabbage, mildly tangy, good for your digestive health and the perfect compliment for a rich and slightly spicy sausage. My recommendation is a sauerkraut with only cabbage and salt as the listed ingredients to avoid the sulphites in most vinegars and wines that are sometimes used.

Noted I will have that tried in our local restaurant.


Btw, I have been eating more vegetables because of the table in your reply. Thank you so much, I feel very motivated living a healthy lifestyle.

Originally posted by thefreethinker
Btw, I have been eating more vegetables because of the table in your reply. Thank you so much, I feel very motivated living a healthy lifestyle.

I'm glad to hear that having more options is an inspiration for you. Which veggies have you ventured to sample in the last 24 hours

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Originally posted by thefreethinker
Btw, I have been eating more vegetables because of the table in your reply. Thank you so much, I feel very motivated living a healthy lifestyle.

I'm glad to hear that having more options is an inspiration for you. Which veggies have you ventured to sample in the last 24 hours

I'm actually not familiar what its called but came along with my salt and pepper spareribs I'm starting out with the small stuffs first like the sidings on the meals that I order

Originally Posted by thefreethinker31

I'm actually not familiar what its called but came along with my salt and pepper spareribs I'm starting out with the small stuffs first like the sidings on the meals that I order

You will have to excuse me for chuckling at the thought that you are indulging by eating the edible garnishes as I've not yet encountered major side dishes of veggies with spareribs but at least it is a start.

Parsley is a green frilly small leafed garnish that is good for cleansing the palate and freshening your breath after eating. The garnish in the following image is cilantro which has a slightly lemony taste.

cilantro which has a slightly lemony taste

Not in my universe!!!

It's as vile as tarragon, cumin, fenugreek and all those other repulsive cousins of the far-flung caraway scent/taste tribe.

Parsley is much, much better.

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Originally Posted by thefreethinker31

I'm actually not familiar what its called but came along with my salt and pepper spareribs I'm starting out with the small stuffs first like the sidings on the meals that I order

You will have to excuse me for chuckling at the thought that you are indulging by eating the edible garnishes as I've not yet encountered major side dishes of veggies with spareribs but at least it is a start.

Parsley is a green frilly small leafed garnish that is good for cleansing the palate and freshening your breath after eating. The garnish in the following image is cilantro which has a slightly lemony taste.

Yeap those are the ones that I started eating Will those be enough to kickstart a more healthier lifesyle?

Originally Posted by adelady

cilantro which has a slightly lemony taste

Not in my universe!!!

It's as vile as tarragon, cumin, fenugreek and all those other repulsive cousins of the far-flung caraway scent/taste tribe.

Parsley is much, much better.

There are several varieties of cilantro and the one I encounter most often up here is:

Lemon Cilantro

• Despite its small size of 12 inches or less, this variety has a distinct lemon flavor and an aroma strong enough to fill the air inside or out with a pleasing citrus fragrance. Lemon cilantro is most often used in Thai cuisine either freshly cut and sprinkled on top of finished dishes or cooked with other ingredients.

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Will those be enough to kickstart a more healthier lifesyle?

Only to the extent of habituation to unfamiliar tastes. It's the theory that underlies many parents permitting their children to leave disliked food on their plate - but only after they've eaten a mouthful. By the time that's happened a couple of dozen times, very few children will resist tastes they've become accustomed to.

Give yourself a little tasting experience every day. Eventually, you'll have to bite the healthy bullet and start a serious change in the proportions of which foods you eat most of.

Originally Posted by thefreethinker31

Yeap those are the ones that I started eating Will those be enough to kickstart a more healthier lifesyle?

LOL....I'd hardly call that a 'kickstart'....more like a nibble but you don't want to shock your system by introducing change too rapidly. Sudden change of diet can cause colic in horses and upset digestion in humans as well. Just go where curiosity and your taste buds take you. There's a world of flavor out there to enjoy and benefits to be derived from the pleasure.

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Originally Posted by thefreethinker31

Yeap those are the ones that I started eating Will those be enough to kickstart a more healthier lifesyle?

LOL....I'd hardly call that a 'kickstart'....more like a nibble but you don't want to shock your system by introducing change too rapidly. Sudden change of diet can cause colic in horses and upset digestion in humans as well. Just go where curiosity and your taste buds take you. There's a world of flavor out there to enjoy and benefits to be derived from the pleasure.

Oh alright Well, thank you once again.

OP, imo its a big gamble, unless your grand parents are inuit and you are in the 1900 arctic, breathing prestine air, drinking pure spring water, and eating meat without any hormones and additives that you have spend the day hunting.The problem is not so much at 32 or 34, the risk is of silently developping various health problems in your 40s or 50s that may develop without any symptoms. But im not a doctor of medicine, so its just my opinion

Originally Posted by icewendigo

OP, imo its a big gamble, unless your grand parents are inuit and you are in the 1900 arctic, breathing prestine air, drinking pure spring water, and eating meat without any hormones and additives that you have spend the day hunting.The problem is not so much at 32 or 34, the risk is of silently developping various health problems in your 40s or 50s that may develop without any symptoms. But im not a doctor of medicine, so its just my opinion

Yeah I guess it's a very big gamble. I'm starting to eat vegetables now slowly. Will try to avoid those future health problems with I reach my 40s..

Salad.


That's what food eats.

That is a big NO, even the professional and the health chart requires vegetable and fish. Our diet and nutritional aspect won't be balanced, there's a measurement of food intake. You're just 32 so you can't noticed the cause of not eating the proper prescribed food, wait until you get older.

Consumption of only meat is not good for your health because of that you may face health problems like weight gain, cancer and piles also etc. Consume food the vegetables also that good for your health.

Originally Posted by sallyjoseph

Consume the vegetables.

That's what food eats.

I let the food eat the vegetables, then I eat the food and get the best of both worlds.

It's better you eat nutritious food like vegetables and fruits if you only eat meat that's not really good at all. Our body needs vegetables especially green leafy, maybe now you feel that you are still healthy although you ate meats only but in fact when you are getting more older that's the time you will feel that you are unhealthy.

Originally Posted by thefreethinker31

Is it possible that I am living a healthy life without the help of vegetables?

Yes indeed whatever required for our body you are getting it through meat so whats the problem....main moto should be maintain calorie level in our body .....and I think you are doing that.

Eating only meat is definitely not healthy. You're missing out on a lot of components your body needs. Also, your heart won't thank you for this.

Some much food advice is so generic as well with often people's genetics given little consideration. Some people probably could eat a high meat diet without suffering for it--most typically those who's blood relatives live well above average lifespans anyhow and seldom die of heart disease. Most people aren't so lucky.

I wonder what your blood tests show with regard to cholesterol, triglycerides, HDL, LDL. Check into that to see how you're doing. It's too bad they can't run an angiogram on you just to make sure your coronary arteries aren't clogging up. Go with lean cuts of free-range/organic meat if possible to avoid added hormones and antibiotics, and the gobs of saturated fat you are likely ingesting. Try some whole grain buns and rolls with your meats to help you get some fiber. Meat doesn't provide much fiber. A vitamin/mineral supplement would help too if you really hate veggies and fruits. Meat is lacking in several important vitamins and minerals. Also, try to get rid some of the processed stuff like SPAM. Maybe your genetic make-up thrives on the kind of diet you have, and you're physically active and aren't overweight, but I think conventional wisdom would say you're going to cause yourself some serious problems on that kind of a diet sooner rather than later.

Unless you don't care if your loose your nuts, it is recommended men eat a tomato product at least twice a week to prevent prostrate cancer. Also if cancer runs in one's family, broccoli should be in the diet often.

The Paleo diet is the latest rage. This would be the foods nomadic hunters ate, high in meat and low in farm produce.
Paleolithic diet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which diet is best for you depends on your body type. Those who gain belly fat need a hunters diet. Those get fat butts need a farmers diet, if I remember correctly.

Personally, my diet depends on the season. I love hot soups in the winter and cold salads in the summer. I have experienced fog brain, and this can be the result from not enough meat, so I have tried to increase my meat intake. Sometimes I crave meats and then I loose interest in meat. It is common for women to like vegetables more than men do.

Ben Franklin would say moderation in everything.

I imagine the meats you are eating aren't even grass fed but rather battery cage or CAFO animals. They will have been fed GMO corn and soy feeds to fatten them up which now degrades the ratio of omega-3 fats to the unfavourable ones. Meat also creates an acidic load and if you aren't eating alkaline foods to buffer this properly you are now at a higher risk of cancers and western diseases.

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Well, im interested what carb intakes do u have?

Do you know how to cook vegetables? I think some people get turned off by vegetables because they have only had them served boiled, which completely destroys the flavour. Try cooking them in a pan with a little bit of olive oil and experiment with spices.

Most Americans probably have a similar diet. Though, most Americans are also out of shape, obese, or otherwise incompetent.

The most important thing is you are here asking questions, which means you really want to know. The Internet is evil, everyone is selling something. You have to filter everything and try stuff and see what works for you. Some science shows it's not low-carb or low-fat we should be on, but low(er)-protein. Almost all cultures that have a lower meat intake have dramatically lower heart-attack rates and diabetes. There are lots of videos on the subject, and always remember to take everything with a "grain of salt". Recent things that caught my investigative attention are the "Gracie Diet" (food combining) and "Forks Over Knives" ..also "Fathead". Most information pushed at you has corporate backing. I have a 1928 cookbook that tells ladies of the house that their man need 28 oz of beef daily. Sounds like your diet. Steak and eggs, steak and cheese sub, then a steak for dinner. There is science to the contrary. Unfortunately we fight things like counterfeit food at the store (not as labeled), everything is made from corn (corn-fed beef, pork, chicken, salmon, tilapia) My best advice is dump the processed food and corn-fed meat/eggs/cheese/butter. You can find it, but it will be a journey ...and you may have started just in time. BTW I had like 3 pork chops for dinner (nothing else), but just because it was gonna otherwise spoil ...that's my STORY and I'm sticking to it!

Originally Posted by NetHunter

Almost all cultures that have a lower meat intake have dramatically lower heart-attack rates and diabetes.

When looking at different cultures, you have to account for genetic differences, though.

In addition, processed western "meat" is often loaded with added sugars, grains and various preservatives and flavour enhancers. It's not really meat unless you are talking about raw, unprocessed, beef, pork, venison, etc. that you cook yourself.

Originally Posted by Alec Bing

Originally Posted by NetHunter

Almost all cultures that have a lower meat intake have dramatically lower heart-attack rates and diabetes.

When looking at different cultures, you have to account for genetic differences, though.

In addition, processed western "meat" is often loaded with added sugars, grains and various preservatives and flavour enhancers. It's not really meat unless you are talking about raw, unprocessed, beef, pork, venison, etc. that you cook yourself.

A number of my friends and many of the First Nations people prefer to eat locally harvested fish and wild game precisely for the reasons mentioned above. Unfortunately, because of the level of human population, this option is not available to all who might prefer it in other parts of the world. I have greatly cut back my consumption of meat from commercial sources because it no longer tastes very good. I've switched to a lot more vegetables and fruits but even agriculture is mostly forced grown now and the flavor is lacking and the nutritional and contamination remain somewhat in question.

Originally Posted by scheherazade

A number of my friends and many of the First Nations people prefer to eat locally harvested fish and wild game precisely for the reasons mentioned above. Unfortunately, because of the level of human population, this option is not available to all who might prefer it in other parts of the world. I have greatly cut back my consumption of meat from commercial sources because it no longer tastes very good.

It's often amazing to me how often people around here have no idea what real meat tastes like, or the difference in the meat from an animal that had quality of life, that lived, rather than existed on a plot awaiting the slaughterhouse.

Originally Posted by Neverfly

Originally Posted by scheherazade

A number of my friends and many of the First Nations people prefer to eat locally harvested fish and wild game precisely for the reasons mentioned above. Unfortunately, because of the level of human population, this option is not available to all who might prefer it in other parts of the world. I have greatly cut back my consumption of meat from commercial sources because it no longer tastes very good.

It's often amazing to me how often people around here have no idea what real meat tastes like, or the difference in the meat from an animal that had quality of life, that lived, rather than existed on a plot awaiting the slaughterhouse.

This may well be in light of the fact that they have had no opportunity to taste 'real' meat, fish or fowl so that sadly, when they do, they actually find 'flavor' to be offensive as their palate has become accustomed to 'bland' differentiated only by the spices used in it's preparation. With the possible exception of fish, I could take ground beef, chicken, pork or turkey and season it in such manner that most would find it hard to discern which meat they were eating, especially if I used it in a burrito type dish served with additional condiments.

The question of regional genetic differences gets quickly tested when an isolated culture gets inundated with Western Fast Food. Inuits may be a solid example, where if you couldn't survive on meat alone, you didn't make it to reproductive age. The interesting thing to me is the vast chasm between cultural tastes, or distastes in many cases. Especially Asian local favorites (treats/delicacies!), some of which few Westerners would touch. So for FreeThinker31, I would recommend what everyone else already has ...try some stuff. You believe you know what's good and what's not (delicious), when in reality you are a creature of habit (and nurture), and I am about to tell you something worse.

Again, as already relayed, some of this is negative conditioning from overbearing parents (clean your plate - eat your green beans!), but your 30's is when you take the reigns of your life, and stop blaming. It's the only way to take best care of yourself. This is your awakening. Food is Life. Arteries don't clog as much as they start failing to heal... along with the rest of you. It's downhill from 35 chief. After 40 it takes 12 weeks, instead of 6 weeks (for a 31 YO!), for a broken bone to heal. Insulin resistance (Diabetes Type II) is your cellular walls being damaged by too much insulin (too much sugar to handle!) ...again more of a failure to heal. Proof being, a significant percentage of people can reverse Diabetes by losing the weight and eating less indulgently.

McDonalds... you think they just make hamburgers? It's a science experiment. They extract beef perfumes and add it to meat, then they test it against a large group and find the one perfume that qualifies as addictive ...still 100% beef ...if you qualify bovine pheromone as meat. Actually this was done a long time ago. See? You are being KILLED by deliciousness. The food you think you are "choosing" has been pharmaceutically designed to chose YOU. At the end of WWII chemical companies that made perfumes prior to the War, switched from their wartime chemical weapons manufacturing to making a new kind of perfume ...food additives. The post-war TV dinner/frozen food craze lacked appeal because cooking and freezing green beans for example, not only removes lots of healthy stuff, it also removes the flavor. These companies jumped on the opportunity to use their labs to analyze and synthesize *natural* food flavors ...and they were successful. Did you know that one drop of green bell pepper flavor can make an entire swimming pool taste like green peppers? This has been going on for over 65 years. Make no mistake the prepared restaurant food (chain restaurants) industry is selling drugs that look like food, and they are as unhealthy as they are DELICIOUS ...and as profitable as possible. Your health and their bottom line ...'ner the twain shall meet.

On your journey look for statical evidence of regional health and see what that culture eats. Make it an adventure. Look to people you admire. Look up Gracie Diet on Youtube (as In Gracie Jujitsu!). It's cool and exciting to eat well. Carefully select restaurants that prepare fresh real food. Supporting them can reverse the trend, and we are seeing that now in chains trying to be more healthy. OMG they're starting to lose money! Your addiction will be replaced with all things good. Buy a Vitamix blender. This morning I had a Chocolate vitamin/protein powder with almond milk, a banana, and a huge fistful of spinach. While it looks a little greenish-brown, you cannot taste the spinach. Now that's delicious. That was 7 AM and I didn't want lunch till 12:30 Did you know spinach is 40% protein?

My wife tricked me to try my first one by making two ..one with, and one without spinach. I had no idea. She asked me which one tasted better, and the choice was easy ...and the kitchen was suspiciously dark. Spinach and chocolate? whodda thunk? For dairy, we love Ireland's KerryGold cheddar and butter, from grass fed beef, and we're paying more for organic chicken, beef, and wild-caught fish ...but we eat less of it. We switched from cow's milk to almond or coconut milk. It's honestly better tasting to eat real food. I came here because, like you, my journey is ongoing ...Godspeed ..wait that should be God-feed!®

See,
If from your childhood you are eating meat and it does not cause any side effects to your health then it means your body is habitual of having such type of heavy meal and does not get effected. You may continue with your diet. And taking healthy meal has different definition as per every ones body matter. If your body does not effected by non veg then definitely your diet is healthy as per your body requirements.

Lots of hippy-dippy new age dietary advice here, but not much science. Does anybody have any science to contribute? This is a science forum.

As far as the Inuit diet is concerned, there may be a genetic factor, but I seem to recall a western explorer who lived with the Inuit for a while and did fine eating their food. Can't recall the guy's name right now.

Really "hippy-dippy"? Why is that appropriate terminology to use?

Originally Posted by Surabhi

See,
If from your childhood you are eating meat and it does not cause any side effects to your health then it means your body is habitual of having such type of heavy meal and does not get effected. You may continue with your diet. And taking healthy meal has different definition as per every ones body matter. If your body does not effected by non veg then definitely your diet is healthy as per your body requirements.

Just because you are not experiencing any observable negative effects from your diet now, it does not mean that you are not setting yourself up for problems in the future. I'm not referring to any specific diet, just pointing out that damage can happen slowly over time.

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Really "hippy-dippy"? Why is that appropriate terminology to use?

It reminded me of the hippies. Everything they ate had to be "natural."
The guy I was trying to think of was this guy.
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Originally Posted by Harold14370

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Really "hippy-dippy"? Why is that appropriate terminology to use?

It reminded me of the hippies. Everything they ate had to be "natural."
The guy I was trying to think of was this guy.
Vilhjalmur Stefansson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Who said anything about "natural"? I see a discussion about the effects of various types of food and nutrients on human metabolism.

Originally Posted by Alec Bing

Originally Posted by Harold14370

Originally Posted by Paleoichneum

Really "hippy-dippy"? Why is that appropriate terminology to use?

It reminded me of the hippies. Everything they ate had to be "natural."
The guy I was trying to think of was this guy.
Vilhjalmur Stefansson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Who said anything about "natural"? I see a discussion about the effects of various types of food and nutrients on human metabolism.

Right, but where's the science?

Originally Posted by Harold14370

Lots of hippy-dippy new age dietary advice here, but not much science. Does anybody have any science to contribute? This is a science forum.

As far as the Inuit diet is concerned, there may be a genetic factor, but I seem to recall a western explorer who lived with the Inuit for a while and did fine eating their food. Can't recall the guy's name right now.

If I remember correctly, the Inuit diet doesn't include much sugar, which could account for the diet not being completely lethal to arteries.

The most surprising thing to early explorers was that the Inuit did not get scurvy. Apparently they get enough vitamin C from liver or other organ meats. This wouldn't help the OP who is eating hamburgers though.
Stefansson 1 - Eskimos Prove An All Meat Diet Provides Excellent Health.

I eat a lot of raw venison, drink raw eggs, and eat a lot of uncooked veggies from the back yard--cooking is something i mainly do for others.

Originally Posted by sculptor

I eat a lot of raw venison, drink raw eggs, and eat a lot of uncooked veggies from the back yard--cooking is something i mainly do for others.

Raw venison? I have heard of Tartar, being of European ancestry, and dry meat, which is raw meat which is dried, sometimes smoked, without heat.

Can you provide any more details about how you prepare it for eating raw? Do you cube it, grind it, add onion, egg or spices?

Originally Posted by thefreethinker31

Hi guys, I was just wondering if there is something wrong with my food choices. Ever since I was a kid, now I am currently 32, I've been only eating meat. I don't eat vegetables and sea food. But my health is still in very good condition. Is it possible that I am living a healthy life without the help of vegetables?

How does one grow up without being exposed to "what constitutes a healthy diet'? I guess if you're raised by wolves, maybe.

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Originally Posted by sculptor

I eat a lot of raw venison, drink raw eggs, and eat a lot of uncooked veggies from the back yard--cooking is something i mainly do for others.

Raw venison? I have heard of Tartar, being of European ancestry, and dry meat, which is raw meat which is dried, sometimes smoked, without heat.

Can you provide any more details about how you prepare it for eating raw? Do you cube it, grind it, add onion, egg or spices?

Just slice and eat(smell it first)---no spices, just the flavor of raw meat-----I'm the only one in this family who likes it that way. I always offer, they always decline.

I've tried grinding it and mixing with raw eggs, onion, garlic, peppers, and spices and serving it on bread, but then i end up with a lot of sour looks and a bunch to eat alone.

...... my taste for raw eggs is the main reason i raise chickens---I can see if they're healthy or unhealthy...........and the curious thing is, though no one else here likes raw eggs, they don't mind them in egg-nog.

There is no accounting for taste. (much of which seems to be in the mind)
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just had a sip or islay single malt scotch--------really peaty flavor