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Thread: Brainrot... can your lifestyle affect your mental prowess that much?

  1. #1 Brainrot... can your lifestyle affect your mental prowess that much? 
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    Been eating to little, eating the wrong food (junkfood), drinking way to much soda, sleeping too long (10-12 hours a day) + partying once a week for awhile now. Also very little physical activity. (Though not obese, skinny rather)

    Trying to turn things around but my question is this. Can this actually make you stupid?

    I feel that lately (As a result of this lifestyle for almost 6 months) Im having problems concentrating, always out of energy and lastly and most frightening I feel more and more stupid. As in - my head feels so slow. Not sure how to put it, but it feels like someone threw a wrench into my mental machinery and that its all running on half speed. Im having problems gathering my thoughts, derail easily, thinking about writing something and end up writing completely different words! As an example I could easily write "I took the bug the other deaf" when the plan was to write "I took the bus the other day".

    I know my lifestyle right now sucks. But can it really affect the brain that much? Will starting to work out again, sleep normally and eating healthier food get me out of this "brainrot"?


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    Yes, it can make you stupid.

    Sleep 8 hours, no more.

    Vary soda with something with less sugar, coffee and water are great that way.

    Vary junkfood, with homecooked, veggies, carrots, and leek are very healty (most veggies are)

    Exercise 30 mins per day, do whatever, ride bike, jog, or even just walk.

    This will improve your overall health..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwolver View Post
    Yes, it can make you stupid.

    Sleep 8 hours, no more.

    Vary soda with something with less sugar, coffee and water are great that way.

    Vary junkfood, with homecooked, veggies, carrots, and leek are very healty (most veggies are)

    Exercise 30 mins per day, do whatever, ride bike, jog, or even just walk.

    This will improve your overall health..
    Thanks for the quick reply Zwolver. I knew it had an effect on the brain but not that it could do that MUCH. I have to say I feel the change has been rather drastic.
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    I don't know about making you stupid, but a poor diet and a lack of mental exercize will not help you get smarter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziell View Post
    Been eating to little, eating the wrong food (junkfood), drinking way to much soda, sleeping too long (10-12 hours a day) + partying once a week for awhile now. Also very little physical activity. (Though not obese, skinny rather)

    Trying to turn things around but my question is this. Can this actually make you stupid?

    I feel that lately (As a result of this lifestyle for almost 6 months) Im having problems concentrating, always out of energy and lastly and most frightening I feel more and more stupid. As in - my head feels so slow. Not sure how to put it, but it feels like someone threw a wrench into my mental machinery and that its all running on half speed. Im having problems gathering my thoughts, derail easily, thinking about writing something and end up writing completely different words! As an example I could easily write "I took the bug the other deaf" when the plan was to write "I took the bus the other day".

    I know my lifestyle right now sucks. But can it really affect the brain that much? Will starting to work out again, sleep normally and eating healthier food get me out of this "brainrot"?
    It has been estimated that the brain utilizes approximately 20% of the body's totally oxygen, generally associated as energy. All of the factors you have listed are individually identified as being detrimental to our optimum performance and collectively one could expect them to be even more detrimental.

    I've read that the (whole) brain consumes 20% of the total body energy expenditure at rest. How much

    One other question comes to mind, that being the air quality of where you reside, as it might also be a contributing factor.

    Fatigue, lack of focus, low energy have all been implicated in studies of poor diet/lifestyle and can leave one feeling challenged by routine tasks (feeling stupid.) A change is certainly advisable yet do it with an incremental plan in place would be my suggestion as any extreme change places the body under stress and can leave you feeling as bad or worse for a time. Caffeine drinkers are advised to cut back gradually rather than quit 'cold turkey' for a headache is a common side effect of caffeine withdrawal, as example.

    When was your last general medical exam? It might be a good precaution to consider and help you establish a baseline of where you are at and where you'd like to get to.

    (P.S. - I've been working graveyard shift for over seven years and have had as my 'field study' approximately 200 workers. Those who manage good nutrition and sleep habits are able to stay the course. Those who rely on substances and neglect the former generally don't last long. Interestingly, several B blood types seemed to develop blood pressure concerns within a few months which has me pondering whether there may be a correlation there. Just an aside that has some relation to your question as I have observed apparent decline in cognitive function among those with unhealthy lifestyles in this venue.)
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    One thing about the lack of activity and sleeping so much, you're mucking up a whole lot of hormone processes - melatonin for starters.
    Melatonin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia otherwise known as your body clock.

    The poor diet, too much sleep, too little activity for half a year sounds very much like you were depressed or you're well on the way to making yourself depressed. Brain fog can be part of depression as well as a whole heap of other medical conditions.

    Get yourself to a doctor for a thorough checkup.
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    Thanks for very informative and helpful replies
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    I don’t think it does affect your brain that much (in that you’re talking about cognitive performance). The rubbish diet, sleep patterns, lack of exercise are a concern for your physical health. There are many people I know who are very sharp intellectually yet have similar behaviours. I would advise them and you to alter those behaviours for your physical well-being, but with regard to your intellectual output the main thing to do is get involved in mentally stimulating endeavours.

    You gave an example of a sentence you may write incorrectly, but you didn’t really say if your studies/ academic grades/ level of understanding/ concentration during tasks/ etc had diminished significantly. If they had, as another poster mentioned, it would be wise to get some routine tests done – which I’m sure would be your course of action, thus I assume there has not been a significant reduction. My advice would be to get some mental stimulation (obviously something that actually interests you, don’t just learn French for the sake of firing up some neurons), the whole ‘is drinking too many sodas making me stupid?’ kind of line in itself seems a little like someone looking for an excuse as to why they aren’t performing well when really they are just being lazy and not engaging their brain (I hasten to add that I don’t mean to judge someone I don’t know, I really am talking in generalities above, and as I said it would be, as of course you know, a good idea to shift lifestyles simply for physical health – but that my two cents are that doing so will not miraculously turn you into a super-brain, you actually have to engage your brain in something difficult over a prolonged time, not an easy thing) [Essentially I’m expanding on Flick Montana’s post]

    (For the posters who agreed that eating bad food genuinely makes you stupid I would love to see your evidence for this [in the sense that I’m very happy to be shown to be wrong]) (I know that malnutrition at certain critical developmental stages can affect cognition, but I assume here we're discussing adult nutrition and cognition)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHF View Post
    For the posters who agreed that eating bad food genuinely makes you stupid I would love to see your evidence for this (in the sense that I’m very happy to be shown to be wrong)
    I think it depends what is included in the rubbish diet and what is meant by "partying". Alcohol and marijuana have both been shown to decrease mental performance. Yes, even if you only use them once a week, and especially if that once a week is a "binge" where you have, say, 6 or 7 drinks. Obviously this will affect different people differently (I have some brilliant friends who drink and smoke like there's no tomorrow) but it is the case that MOST of us will experience negative effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHF View Post
    (For the posters who agreed that eating bad food genuinely makes you stupid I would love to see your evidence for this [in the sense that I’m very happy to be shown to be wrong]) (I know that malnutrition at certain critical developmental stages can affect cognition, but I assume here we're discussing adult nutrition and cognition)
    Edit: i imposed the exercise part, instead of nutrition, as i was about on the way to obvious side to take that seriously. Vitamin B12 directly influences the brain, as do most other vitamins in some way.

    From:
    KATHLEEN BECKMAN BLOMQUIST and FRED DANNER (1987) EFFECTS OF PHYSICAL CONDITIONING ON INFORMATION-PROCESSING EFFICIENCY. Perceptual and Motor Skills: Volume 65, Issue , pp. 175-186. doi: 10.2466/pms.1987.65.1.175

    Study implicated changes in information-processing efficiency that occur when physical fitness improves..... There was a trend towards improvement in memory-scan rate and number of words remembered on the people who became more fit.
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    Well, here is more..

    ScienceDirect.com - International Journal of Developmental Neuroscience - Physical exercise reverses glutamate uptake and oxidative stress effects of chronic homocysteine administration in the rat

    The influence of physical exercise on the effects elicited by homocysteine on glutamate uptake and some parameters of oxidative stress, namely thiobarbituric acid-reactive substances, 2′,7′-dichlorofluorescein (H2DCF) oxidation, as well as enzymatic antioxidant activities, superoxide dismutase, catalase and glutathione peroxidase in rat cerebral cortex were investigated......
    Physical activity reversed the homocysteine effects on glutamate uptake and on antioxidant enzymes activities; although the increase in thiobarbituric acid-reactive substances was only partially reversed by exercise. These findings allow us to suggest that physical exercise may have a protective role against homocysteine-induced oxidative imbalance and brain damage to the glutamatergic system.
    ScienceDirect.com - Neurobiology of Disease - Short-term exercise in aged Tg2576 mice alters neuroinflammation and improves cognition

    Exercise is a treatment paradigm that can ameliorate cognitive dysfunction in Alzheimer disease (AD) and AD mouse models. Since exercise is also known to alter the peripheral immune response, one potential mechanism for the cognitive improvement following exercise may be by modulating the inflammatory repertoire in the central nervous system........
    We demonstrate that short-term voluntary wheel running improved spatial learning in aged transgenic mice as compared to sedentary Tg2576 controls.
    I'll just leave it at that for now..
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    Haha. Thanks for the articles Zwolver! I don't think anyone questioned that exercise was good for the brain [edit: I see that SHF was unsure of this point--yes, exercise definitely impacts cognition, and interestingly too much exercise impacts it negatively] more a question of whether a "bad diet" could make you stupid. Clearly what you eat will have an impact on how you feel, but could it actually make you dumber? I wonder if there might be any studies on this similar to the articles you posted for exercise. I'll have to have a look when I get to my other computer.
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    This may be of some interest:

    Among the key findings:
    - The B vitamins, the antioxidants C and E and vitamin D all seemed to be working in concert in some way the researchers can't yet fully explain. But the B-C-E-D pattern was associated with greater total brain volume and better global cognitive function. People who scored low on this vitamin combination turned out to have less total brain tissue;
    - People who had high levels of circulating trans fats had less brain volume. They also had poorer memory, attention, language and processing speed skills;
    - People with higher levels of omega 3 fatty acids had better executive function — the ability to plan, problem solve, multi-task and perform other functions — as well as fewer white matter lesions on their brain scans.
    The findings held after researchers took age, sex, education, hypertension and genetic and other factors into account.
    Some trans fats are found naturally, in small amounts, in dairy products, beef and lamb, but the trans fats in the study are hidden in cakes, flaky pastries, potato chips and other fried, frozen and processed food.
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    I'll look into the diet part as well, though i quoted him for diet, i gave sources proving exercise was good for your cognitive functions.

    Though some knowledge i gathered myself at school.
    Fat will decrease cell flexibility, and the brain needs just that. Many vitamins are required for a good functioning brain, most can be consumed. Eating some foods may cause stress, which in turn have an effect on your memory, and motor skills..
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    I question the statement about too much sleep hurting the brain as well and would like to see any credible evidence for that.
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    I agree with you guys about exercise. Although I wonder whether it’s a direct result of the exercise (e.g. improving blood flow to the brain), or whether it is more of a lifestyle thing (e.g. if you get up and go for a run in the morning it sets you up for the day, or you play for and train with a particular team and so have a set schedule for the week) – what I mean is the exercise anchors your life (and is also often a social thing which helps intellectually [I think])

    Regarding bad diet and cognition. Again, I’m aware of plenty of specific scenarios of a link between the two (e.g. Wernicke-Korsakoff from vitamin B1 deficiency [plus lots of ethanol]) but I was talking about generally bad diets. So I might get all my vitamins etc but if I also eat loads of rubbish is that actually going to affect my cognition (certainly, as mentioned by JoshuaL, individuals respond differently). You could argue that the ‘good’ part of the diet might in effect be neutralised by the ‘bad’ part, so even if you get all your vitamins it is still a bad idea to have loads of trans fats etc.

    I had a quick search for nutrition and cognition, here’s a paper with lots of mechanisms:
    Nat Rev Neurosci. 2008 Jul;9(7):568-78.
    Brain foods: the effects of nutrients on brain function.
    Gómez-Pinilla F.

    And there are others like it. However, I find a disconnect between my life experience and the research papers (both about exercise and diet). In fact I would venture that those who are better cognitively (in my life) do less exercise and have worse diets. This could be explained by the caricature of nerds and jocks (if you’re stupid you’re more likely to spend time doing sports rather than reading, and vice versa). It could be because exercise takes up time/energy (and even more energy/cofactors/etc if you have to eat loads to fuel the exercise and ‘bulking’ up for gym rats [I’m referring to the digestion costs on the body]) (so you have less time/energy for cognitive endeavours).

    I wonder what you guys think? Do the lifestyles and cognition of the people in your life correspond with the research? Would be interested to hear.

    (PS, thanks for the links (Zwolver). As you know already I was putting a question mark over diet rather than exercise, though would also for exercise to be honest – and looking at these and other papers, I don’t see anything conclusive and more often than not its very indirect markers they are looking at)

    (PPS, the other link to the diet (scheherazade), cheers for this, I’m now looking at the groups other papers as well. What are your thoughts? – with regard to diet/exercise and cognition in the people you know)
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    For anecdotal evidence I agree with you SHF--with a few exceptions my most brilliant friends are not particular about diet and exercise. However, I would argue that this is missing the point, as these are specific people. The question as I see it is whether ON AVERAGE a person will be negatively affected by diet/exercise. So if we have a bell curve and the jocks are at one end and the nerds at the other end, then we are actually not interested in either of those groups so much as everyone who is NOT a jock or nerd. A brilliant person may not stop being brilliant just because they have some crappy food, but an average person might really notice the effects of even a minor loss in cognitive ability caused by eating crappy food (if indeed crappy food has that effect). That's not answering the question, I know, but just trying to clarify and avoid any major fallacies of logic.
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    I totally agree. That is actually what I meant, perhaps I didn't put it very well. e.g. When I wrote "..In fact I would venture that those who are better cognitively (in my life) do less exercise and have worse diets. This could be explained by the caricature of nerds and jocks (if you’re stupid you’re more likely to spend time doing sports rather than reading, and vice versa)..." I was trying to say (as you have perhaps more clearly) that perhaps the differences I'm seeing amongst the people I know are simply IQ differences and it's difficult for one to tease out the effect of my friends lifestyles on their 'reaching of intellectual potential'.
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    Hmm, your actually trying to discover if their lifestyle has an effect on their intellectual potential? Well yeah.. no way of knowing. As most studies are very indirect or to specific, non applicable etc...

    I looked for anything about oversleeping.. but nothing was found.. I do know that i heard once that people who sleep longer die younger, on average so i changed approach..

    ScienceDirect.com - Sleep Medicine - Sleep duration and mortality: the effect of short or long sleep duration on cardiovascular and all-cause mortality in working men and women

    This showed something i wanted to find, but this proves that longer sleep 8H is the healtiest for men, and 7H for women.

    http://www.journalsleep.org/Articles/270105.pdf

    This shows that for both men and women 7H is the best.. But then i looked further..

    It states that 10 hour sleep has a 3 times higher mortality rate then at 7 hours sleep. Simply look at the table.

    Sleep duration and death.jpg
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    There was a news report on CBC in 2007 that also indicated a study had demonstrated too much sleep could prove harmful.

    Sleeping too much, just like sleeping too little, could be linked to a person's risk of an early death, a new British study indicates.
    Researchers at the University of Warwick's Warwick Medical School studied 10,308 British civil servants in two different time periods: between 1985 and 1988, and between 1992 and 1993.
    Too much sleep as dangerous as too little: study - Health - CBC News
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    note I said 'reaching it' (both in general and on a day-to-day performance basis). But it's not so much about me trying to discover something. The thread started with Raziell's 6 months of poor diet/lack of exercise question, which I assume we are agreeing certainly is not the main (if at all) cause of mental sluggishness.

    Am interested about the sleep question now being raised also.
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    Good point. I doubt it is the primary cause, but the jury is out to what degree each of these things may contribute. I'd definitely like to hear more about the partying.
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    I certainly wouldn't dismiss sleeping 10 hours a day and not challenging your body or mind as a cause of mental issues. I personally experienced a very real change in my mental state when I stopped sleeping regular hours and then again when I started exercising regularly. Not to mention that an activity like exercising can have secondary effects on your state of mind when you consider things like increased sex drive.

    By no means would I suggest that a lack of activity is the only cause of whatever is ailing Raziel, but it should be taken into account.
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    True. One thing need not be "the main cause". Enough little things piled up could have a serious cumulative effect... bad sleep habits + bad diet + no exercise + partying... it's no wonder Raziel asked the question to begin with!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaL View Post
    True. One thing need not be "the main cause". Enough little things piled up could have a serious cumulative effect... bad sleep habits + bad diet + no exercise + partying... it's no wonder Raziel asked the question to begin with!
    I'm amazed he could still find the ON switch on his laptop...
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    To be fair, I also have bad sleep habits, a crap diet, and get very little exercise. But I stopped partying a while back.
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    Wow! Didnt expect such a huge interest Just dropped by here again to say that after just 3 days of dumping junk food and eating healthy and proper food, not skipping breakfast, sleeping normally again, and taking a morning jog REALLY helped me. Not back where I was but definitely a positive and noticable change for the better. It could be placebo, dunno. But I feel "alive" again as if I was cured from zombieness. Just hoping I wont fall back. Im guessing one of these factors wouldnt have had such a huge impact, but doing everything right certainly does. Is "positive correlational effect" the sentence Im looking for?
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    Positive correlation? No idea.

    The biggest and best thing you can do feel "alive" is exercise, preferably outdoors. Doesn't need to be as vigorous as running. A half hour walk will do your mood a great deal of good regardless of its impact on your physical fitness.
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    Try whistling and skipping. I can't imagine being pissed off while doing that...
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    Suddenly thinking of "Whistling in the Dark" by TMBG.
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    Hell yes, Flick. Hell yes!

    But also, They Might Be Giants.
    "The only appropriate attitude for man to have about the big questions is... doubt. Doubt is humble, and that's what man needs to be, considering that human history is just a litany of getting sh*t dead wrong."

    Take two of these and call me in the morning
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    Tipsy Milfs with Big Grapes?

    I like mine better. Ive never seen gorilla's box before, but i guess there is a reason they don't..
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
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    From my experience the general principle of 'you get out what you put in' will get you most of the way.

    You can consult the science to help guide your efforts more effectively and perform what I would call micro-optimisations, but the reality is that in the West many of us live needlessly unhealthy and unbalanced lifestyles lacking adequate mental and creative stimulation. This was the case for me for a long time anyway, and it was a lifestyle that I 'fell into'.

    I would recommend experimenting with positive changes in your life and assessing the outcome as honestly as possible.

    Things that I have personally found to be highly beneficial:
    - Minimising intake of sugar and processed foods
    - Some degree of physical activity every day
    - Improving mental clarity and focus through practice (meditation)
    - Getting some sunlight every day - more effective than I predicted
    - Keep yourself inspired (learn something new)
    - Reducing stress
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    Quote Originally Posted by vash31 View Post
    - Getting some sunlight every day - more effective than I predicted
    I live in a very grey city. Almost always overcast here. I do walk outside to get what rays I can, but I find that (and my doctor recommended) vitamin D every day is quite helpful for the mood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaL View Post
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    - Getting some sunlight every day - more effective than I predicted
    I live in a very grey city. Almost always overcast here. I do walk outside to get what rays I can, but I find that (and my doctor recommended) vitamin D every day is quite helpful for the mood.
    Sunlight and air quality are of more consequence than many realize. I live just outside of a small city of about 25,000 people and the air quality in the town and the air quality even 20 minutes away, where I live, are quite noticeably different. If you drive another hour and a half to Atlin, a small town of a few hundred people on the shore of a large freshwater lake, this distinction is even more obvious.

    Indoor and outdoor air quality can be highly variable and sadly, not all outdoor air is 'fresh' in this day of concentrated human habitation.

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