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    something me and some classmates were chatting about that lots of modern medicine is very ironic


    for example, Aspirins have headaches in their list of side effects and the Treatment for cancer is a known Carcinogen


    anyone got anymore?


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    I got a funny one, its not medicine, i was once in a shop in Turkey trying to buy a lactose intolerant friend some milk. I found some! it said...

    "100% milk free"

    when i read the small print on the reverse it also said...

    "Warning! may contain milk"

    weird


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    Homeopathy has got to be the biggest joke. It is widely used by millions of people who believe in it, and it is even popular with the British Royal family.

    Yet homeopathy is based on products that are so diluted they do not have a single molecule of active ingredient left. If you take it, you either drink distilled water, or spoon down some purified milk sugar.

    At least it is impossible to get an overdose!
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    Probiotic drinks, a global market worth over 10bn, and there is no published evidence that it even works.In fact, some immunologists suggest that in an immuno-compromised person that can be extremely harmful. And when you think about it, it makes perfect sense, the probiotic slogan is "replace your 'good' bacteria", however where does food go directly after you eat/ drink it? into the hostile environment of your stomach, probably killing a large percentage of bacteria if not all of the bacteria in the probiotic. Not really ironic but interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic
    Yet homeopathy is based on products that are so diluted they do not have a single molecule of active ingredient left.
    Someone has argued that all the water we drink is an extremely potent homeopathic solution of sir Isaac Newton's urine.
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    Many herbs are called medicinal because they "activate the immune system".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leszek Luchowski
    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic
    Yet homeopathy is based on products that are so diluted they do not have a single molecule of active ingredient left.
    Someone has argued that all the water we drink is an extremely potent homeopathic solution of sir Isaac Newton's urine.
    What about before he existed?
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    SO much of our modern synthetic medicine is poison.
    Imagination is a key to the foundation of thought that will forever stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leszek Luchowski
    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic
    Yet homeopathy is based on products that are so diluted they do not have a single molecule of active ingredient left.
    Someone has argued that all the water we drink is an extremely potent homeopathic solution of sir Isaac Newton's urine.
    they must have been clearly altered in consciousness with the water they drank when they proposed such theory :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by scientia
    SO much of our modern synthetic medicine is poison.
    "Poison is in everything, and no thing is without poison. The dosage makes it either a poison or a remedy". (Paracelsus)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty2406
    Probiotic drinks, a global market worth over 10bn, and there is no published evidence that it even works.In fact, some immunologists suggest that in an immuno-compromised person that can be extremely harmful. And when you think about it, it makes perfect sense, the probiotic slogan is "replace your 'good' bacteria", however where does food go directly after you eat/ drink it? into the hostile environment of your stomach, probably killing a large percentage of bacteria if not all of the bacteria in the probiotic. Not really ironic but interesting
    The efficacy of probiotics is largely over-hyped by the media. However, it has been shown to be an effective treatment for various mild issues depending on the strain used.

    As to them being destroyed in the stomach, well that's how your gut gets colonized originally anyway. It doesn't really take very many bacteria to survive the trip to be able to do something.

    Is it worth eating these probiotic yogurts and drink daily? Probably not, this is just companies taking advantage of people.

    Homeopathy on the other hand is a big gigantic hoax.
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    Ah okay, good point. I know that some people swear by Probiotics, and when they stop taking them they feel worse. But also a lot goes to say for a placebo, i think a lot of the time, if the person thinks they are fit and healthy, they are healthy! And in that case, then why not take Probiotics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by i_feel_tiredsleepy
    It doesn't really take very many bacteria to survive the trip to be able to do something.
    Babies are wonderful studies in digestion. Whoever changes the diapers can't help but notice the changing flora regimes. Later, introducing one food or another is solidly experimental: one looks forward to seeing and smelling what comes out. By my personal observation few foods break down until the appropriate microbes specialized to that food have ...entrenched themselves. Like, the first few times a baby eats pureed peach, you'll see bright orange undigested peach mush in the diaper... and it still smells like peaches.

    "Few foods" I guess means everything besides milk. And sometimes even milk is problematic if the colic regime takes over.

    I suspect that there was something wrong with those probiotic yakult drinks coming out of China some years ago. My son grew addicted to them. His poop began to smell rancid-sweet, and he lost weight, became a sugar craver. He'd empty six of these little bottles in an hour, and zero appetite for anything else. Then we found out the powdered milk they were made with (we mainly got them from Chinese supermarket) contained melamine as simulated protein. I suspect that those drinks wipe out other microbes needed to digest a normal diet, so the user adapts to crave just those foods the now simplified regime can handle: more of same. That would partially explain the soaring volumes of consumption especially among school-age children.
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