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    If you have a big fatty meal, when would you put on weight from it? Does it take a certain amount of time before the weight goes on or is it straight away?
    I'm confused as to how this works!!


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    If you have a big fatty meal, you will put on weight, but probably not very much from a single meal. It takes 3500 calories above what you burn by metabolism to add 1 lb (which is a little less than half a kilogram if you didn't know). So, your big fatty meal would have to be quite big to put on a pound.

    The weight will show up right away, probably within a day would be my guess. But your weight fluctuates on a day to day basis anyway, due to things like dehydration, constipation, etc., so you might not be able to measure the difference from one meal.


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    I think it depends on your metabolism and current events (dehydration, illnesses etc). I, personally, have a low metabolism. I find it very easy to gain weight without eating much of anything. My brother, on the other hand, can eat any fattening thing he wants, without ever putting up a pound. If I ate like him, it would be a heart attack within a week for me (maybe not).
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    Harold is correct in saying that one meal will not add much. However, what it adds should be mostly added within 24 hours.
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    It is also understood that if you exercise shortly after eating a large calorie, high fat meal you will curb the weight gain as well. You can shunt the metabolic pathway that would instantly start trying to store those extra calories into long chain fatty acids. This is especially the case as many high fat meals will also be high carb meals. A calorie is a calorie, but the role of insulin towards a high glucose insult from a high carb load can actually tip the scales in favor of a sluggish metabolism which will end up storing more of those calories as fat.
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    big fatty meal?did you read my white sugar post?how about all that "fatless" soda?
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    holmes is a joke... nutrition is not black and white, it is very complex

    the same amount of calories will add the same amount of weight, whether they are from fat, protein, or carbohydrates.
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    If a person has high metabolism, does eating high calorie food affect his health? A person with normal or low metabolism will probably grow fat and have health problems, what about those with high metabolism?
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    There are a lot of incorrect things said about exercise and weight. Mostly, increasing exercise will increase fitness and health, which is a very good thing, but will not reduce weight. The reason is that more exercise stimulates more appetite, and you eat more. Simple.

    If you exercise enough, a lot of that weight will be muscle, and you will look and feel better. But you will not weigh any less.

    There is actually only one proven method of losing weight long term, that works for everyone. That is surgery. ie. stomach stapling or one of the many variations on this theme.

    Dieting will cause weight loss, but the weight is normally regained within a year or two. Exercise, as said, simply stimulates more appetite. Liposuction is temporary, since the body keeps piling on the weight.

    We can expect, within the next 10 years, an effective weight loss pill, supplied by the pharmaceutical industry. It will work by reducing appetite. As long as you take that pill daily, you will eat less, and have long term weight loss. But we aint got it yet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic
    There are a lot of incorrect things said about exercise and weight. Mostly, increasing exercise will increase fitness and health, which is a very good thing, but will not reduce weight. The reason is that more exercise stimulates more appetite, and you eat more. Simple.

    If you exercise enough, a lot of that weight will be muscle, and you will look and feel better. But you will not weigh any less.
    You cannot state this in the absolute such as you have. First, a person exercising can, in fact, choose to eat less. Further, exercise will help lose weight since metabolism increases (this is especially so with higher weights... those who are morbidly obese, for example). Finally, exercise increases lean muscle mass which does a better job at burning fat. Maybe not directly tied to what the scale says, but important to consider.

    I understand the point you are making, but it is hardly some absolute truth, and there are far too many exceptions to consider for your comment to be valid in all cases.
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    Re-read my wording. I said 'mostly' which is not an absolute statement. I once read a research report on weight loss, and the result of that study suggested about 5% of those who set out to lose weight in conventional ways can do so long term (more than 5 years). The rest will regain weight.

    I am sure that 5% is not an absolute number, either, and that the percentage would vary from study to study. However, it gives a reasonable idea of the overall principle.
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    Indeed, you did. Sorry, skeptic. The error was, in fact, mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newnothing
    If a person has high metabolism, does eating high calorie food affect his health? A person with normal or low metabolism will probably grow fat and have health problems, what about those with high metabolism?
    My experience: Heart rate increases inappropriate to activity, and body temperature rises. MAybe you're seen those (usually guys) sitting with their legs vibrating... they're just burning it. I can't have a good sleep while shedding calories unless the room is cold.

    I guess that swings in body temperature leave one open to disease, although the reverse could be true. :?
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    Well, what type of weight do you want to gain? Muscle, fat or both?

    What does your average daily physical activity involve?

    How many calories do you eat on average?

    Have you gained or lost weight in the past few months and years?
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    Hello Friends.
    Hi, I have just left college doing business admin and have started a full time office job. I was pretty active at college and now I am in a sedentary job I am worried about putting weight on. I drive to work (it is not possible to walk unfortunately), sit down at a desk all day and only get half hour for lunch. How can I avoid weight gain? Can anyone give me proper suggestion?
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    Avoiding weight gain is very simple. You have to take in no more calories than you burn. You could exercise before or after work to try to get the same amount of exercise as before, or you will have to decrease your food consumption.

    If you find that you are starting to gain weight, you have to start counting your calories. One way to do this is with an online journal such as you can find at http://www.mypyramidtracker.gov/

    Eat breakfast. Cut way back on the junk food like cookies, cakes, pies, doughnuts, potato chips, and soft drinks.
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    it all turns to instant fat

    maybe 2 hours
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    I think that one thing to keep in mind is that food and activities have other effects beyond calories consumed and calories burned.

    What I mean is that what we eat, and what we do, effects our appetite. This effect can be pretty powerful and impossible to overcome by an act of will over time.

    Thus, your first meal of the day becomes very important in that it helps determine how much you eat the rest of the day. Also, it is important to have a list of healthy snack foods and eat these when you want to snack.

    For example, I keep a bowel of raw "alkaline" veggies in the fridge and eat these every day when hungry and vary the choices as well.

    Daily exercise also does not just burn calories, it helps you burn more calories by building muscle. I also believe it helps you eat less.

    To make good choices, it is a good idea to periodically read a book on diet/nutrition.
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    One correction.

    Exercise does not help you eat less. Quite the contrary. When you burn more energy, your appetite increases so that you eat more. If not, all those exercise freaks would waste away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic
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    One correction.

    Exercise does not help you eat less. Quite the contrary. When you burn more energy, your appetite increases so that you eat more. If not, all those exercise freaks would waste away.
    Indeed, you must eat more to compensate for vigorous exercise. However, it is a little more complicated than that. This is because some studies suggest that exercise may suppress appetite:

    http://aerobic-conditioning.suite101...press_appetite

    Thus, exercise seems to have two effects on appetite:

    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/n...ory_92329.html

    I think in general, regular exercise helps you get the "correct" appetite to achieve a normal weight.
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    It is true that things are complex, and your two references did not really shed light on this. The first reference suggests appetite suppression with exercise for those with more than normal hunger. Not for most people. The second reference suggested individual difference. Probably true.

    I notice that appetite suppression with exercise is temporary. After exercise, sure. But not later.

    Weight loss from exercise is not something that happens too often, unless the amount of exercise is genuinely very substantial, such as marathon runners. Normal exercise programs rarely result in weight loss. And this is because people who exercise eat more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic
    Weight loss from exercise is not something that happens too often, unless the amount of exercise is genuinely very substantial, such as marathon runners. Normal exercise programs rarely result in weight loss. And this is because people who exercise eat more.
    I've read opinions on both sides. Appetite is very subjective, and a lot of things affect whether you lose weight or not, so I don't know if there is any real good evidence for one or the other. To me it doesn't matter. There are health benefits to exercise apart from any weight loss, so I'll keep doing both.
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    Absolutely Harold. I exercise formally 3 times a week, 2 hours each time, myself. I lose exactly zero weight from doing this, but my blood pressure is down, my bad cholesterol is down, my resting pulse is down, and my ECG shows excellent cardiac condition. I am 60, but unlike most my age, I take no drugs whatever. I do not need to.

    People should all carry out proper exercise, but they should not be led to believe that it will result in weight loss. Apart from exceptional conditions (such as the training for a marathon - many, many hours of exercise) that will not normally happen.
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