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  1. #1 Cancer Can it be Avoided/ Stopped?? 
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    hey guys....
    how Does Cancer 'Work'?
    and how do we 'Cure' Cancer?
    if so, then what do we need to do?
    treatments, symptoms? etc.


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    how does cancer work?
    Modified cell lines thrive in the environment of the body.
    How do we cure cancer:
    treat it
    treatment:
    cure it.
    symptoms:
    lumps, pain, death.


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    thanks monkeyman,
    but how does it happen, like what actually causes the body to 'modify' itself?
    how do we treat it? chemo therapy? is that the ONLY treatment??
    anything phsyical we can see?? is it a slow crippling pain??
    and howlong from diagnosis to death?
    and what are the survival rates with treatment?
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    For ALL of the above: it depends on the kind of cancer.
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    ok VERY quickly and simply,

    its an abnormal proliferation of your cells which have mutated. They mutate when there is either a substance encouraging mutations or when there is a loss of regulation of the cell mechanics preventing mutation (those involved in DNA repair primarily)

    We cure most cancers primarily by surgery; i.e. cut it out!
    And if not, then by radio and chemotherapy.
    Radiotherapy works based on the principle that (i) radiation harms cells and (ii) cancer cells are more susceptible to damage as they are less able to prevent their DNA being further mutated rendering the cell non viable.
    Chemotherapy works by various mechanisms which either stop or kill cells during dividing or by exploiting differences between healthy and cancer cells.

    symptoms depends on the site, but in short, imagine what having an abnormal mass would do to affect an area, and that is the symptom.
    i.e. bowel, obstruction. Brain, increased ICP and headache.

    Pain management is usually very good and not a problem.

    It is often cured these days, especially if caught early.

    Time from diagnosis to death and survival times depend on the cancer and indeed if it is life threatening (some cancers are not life threatening usually, e.g. carcinoid) and if treatable; which the vast majority are.
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    thx dude.... i needed the info because ive got a relative and they have a family history, because her nan had it... and died and now her mum has it... and shes on constant treatment, and now her oldest daughter might end up having it.... its seems to happen ONLY on the female side of the family, but i wasnt told what type of cancer it was..... but apparently it leaves the person infertile too..... questions? comments? queries?
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    Spaceman34,
    It's unfortunate to here your story; I hope that your relative's oldest daughter makes a recovery. This might make you feel better:

    'SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australian scientists have developed a 'trojan horse' therapy to combat cancer, using a bacterially-derived nano cell to penetrate and disarm the cancer cell before a second nano cell kills it with chemotherapy drugs.

    The "trojan horse" therapy has the potential to directly target cancer cells with chemotherapy, rather than the current treatment that sees chemotherapy drugs injected into a cancer patient and attacking both cancer and healthy cells.

    Sydney scientists Dr Jennifer MacDiarmid and Dr Himanshu Brahmbhatt, who formed EnGenelC Pty Ltd in 2001, said they had achieved 100 percent survival in mice with human cancer cells by using the 'trojan horse' therapy in the past two years.

    The scientists plan to start human clinical trials in the coming months. Human trials of the cell delivery system will start next week at the Peter MacCullum Cancer Center at the Royal Melbourne Hospital and The Austin at the University of Melbourne.

    The therapy, published in the latest Nature Biotechnology journal, sees mini-cells called EDVs (EnGenelC Delivery Vehicle) attach and enter the cancer cell.

    The first wave of mini-cells release ribonucleic acid molecules, called siRNA, which switch off the production of proteins that make the cancer cell resistant to chemotherapy.

    A second wave of EDV cells is then accepted by the cancer cell and releases chemotherapy drugs, killing the cancer cell.

    'The beauty is that our EDVs operate like 'Trojan Horses' They arrive at the gates of the affected cells and are always allowed in,' said MacDiarmid.

    'We are playing the rogue cells at their own game. They switch-on the gene to produce the protein to resist drugs, and we are switching-off the gene which, in turn, enables the drugs to enter.'

    DISARMING TUMOUR CELLS

    RNA interference, or RNAi, is designed to silence genes responsible for producing disease-causing proteins and is one of the hottest areas of biotechnology research. RNA was the basis of the 2006 Nobel Prize in medicine.

    Dozens of biotechnology companies are looking for ways to manipulate RNA to block genes that produce disease-causing proteins involved in cancer, blindness or AIDS.

    Brahmbhatt said that after treatment with conventional drug therapy, a large number of cancer cells die but a small percentage of the cells can produce proteins that make cancer cells resistant to chemotherapeutic drugs.

    'Consequently, follow-up drug treatments can fail. The tumors thus become untreatable and continue to flourish, ultimately killing the patient,' said Brahmbhatt.

    'We want to be part of moving toward a time when cancers can be managed as a chronic disease rather than being regarded as a death sentence,' he said."
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    Can Cancer be avoided/stopped


    of course! PRAY TO GOD! since that's worked for so many people in the past


    seriously though it can be stopped, and supposedly avoided, but nothing really causes cancer on a day to day bases (obviously carcinogenic radiation that can damage cells is likely to cause a cancerous growth), because cancer isn't an illness in the same sense that a cold or alzhiemers is


    Cancer is a Malignant Tumor, in other words, some cells flipped the mitosis cycle into overdrive and start reproducing at an exponential rate, causing a lump, Cancer is when these lumps become dangerous, usually because they get into the bloodstream and grow in dangerous places like the brain and lungs, or because they kill off surrounding tissue. the Cause of cancer is nothing more than a mutation of your cells (occasionally triggered by things like radiation yes) because of this there isn't any solid way to prevent it, you can't stop your body working after all

    but the fact that it's just a tumor makes it much easier than other things to eradicate, in some cases you can literally cut it out, rather ironically cancers 'cause' is also it's cure, radiation can be used to kill the tumor, and while it does kill all the other tissue around it, the treatment essentially uses two or more radiation beams at different angles, so that the tumor recieves several times more radiation that the rest of your body, killing it faster than the radiation kills your other tissues. this is also why so many cancers are very lethal, you can't cut out a lump of someones brain and you (usually) can't fry their brain to kill a piece in the middle, meaning brain cancer has an extremely high mortality rate for example
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