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| olamic |
 Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject: good/bad/ugly |
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hello
, im new here, and i have a few questions to ask of you
well, i guess the first would be:
do you think the U.S. military power is worse/just as good/or better then what they advertise on the media. |
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| Bettina |
| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: good/bad/ugly |
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| olamic wrote: |
hello
, im new here, and i have a few questions to ask of you
well, i guess the first would be:
do you think the U.S. military power is worse/just as good/or better then what they advertise on the media. |
The U.S. military is enormously better than what you think is being advertised. There are things that are kept secret like the location of our nuclear submarines. Our technology is the best in the world.
Bettina
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| Nevyn |
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wow that seems like a very giant and biased claim, care to prove it or back it up? or explain why America has the largest 'friendly fire' percentage?
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:35 am Post subject: Re: good/bad/ugly |
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| Bettina wrote: |
Our technology is the best in the world.
Bettina |
Yeah, like the 'stealth' Bomber which the brits actually have developed a radar system that can detect - and is now used by the US to track it's own planes, but they won't tell you about that...... - boy were they mad when they first found out.....
You have no weapons that at least the Brits no not have counter-measures for, and I'll wager a few other countries are very close.. |
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| leohopkins |
| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:16 am Post subject: Re: good/bad/ugly |
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| Bettina wrote: |
| olamic wrote: |
hello
, im new here, and i have a few questions to ask of you
well, i guess the first would be:
do you think the U.S. military power is worse/just as good/or better then what they advertise on the media. |
The U.S. military is enormously better than what you think is being advertised. There are things that are kept secret like the location of our nuclear submarines. Our technology is the best in the world.
Bettina |
Pfft.
Yeah right !!
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| Neutrino |
| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Well I'm not exactly touring any bases in the U.S. or elsewhere but I certainly know that the U.S. spends astoundingly more than any other country.
From Wiki:
U.S. - 522 billion in 2002
U.K. - 38.4 billion
France - 29.5
Germany - 24.9
and so on...
Now I'm sorry but it seems naive to think that the U.K. spent that much less but is even in the same league as the U.S. in terms of military strength. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Nobody says we have the same strength, but the funding here is very different for military technology. The technology is as good, the technology is shared. But some of the US stuff is crap, patriot missiles are now known to have shot down zero scuds! in 1964 the UK had a plane which even today would give your latest fighters a good run for their money (TSR2) but the UK govt was forced by the US to drop it or lose aid (they thoght we had a near commie govt at the time) The harrier jump jet was widely adopted by the US. There are countless examples, you are not superior in every sense. Even in the atomic field this was European until Einstein and co fled Germany and took secrets with them, RADAR was a purely UK invention but during the war we lacked the facilities to mass produce. Yes you guys do have technologuy, and you do make advances, but don't think for one moment that you are superior to anybody, especially when your own government lies to you about even a backward middleeastern country having WMD...
This thread is not about strength, if it were then the US is certianly somewhere in the top ten, it's about the hype around the military. |
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| Bettina |
| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Megabrain wrote: |
Nobody says we have the same strength, but the funding here is very different for military technology. The technology is as good, the technology is shared. But some of the US stuff is crap, patriot missiles are now known to have shot down zero scuds! in 1964 the UK had a plane which even today would give your latest fighters a good run for their money (TSR2) but the UK govt was forced by the US to drop it or lose aid (they thoght we had a near commie govt at the time) The harrier jump jet was widely adopted by the US. There are countless examples, you are not superior in every sense. Even in the atomic field this was European until Einstein and co fled Germany and took secrets with them, RADAR was a purely UK invention but during the war we lacked the facilities to mass produce. Yes you guys do have technologuy, and you do make advances, but don't think for one moment that you are superior to anybody, especially when your own government lies to you about even a backward middleeastern country having WMD...
This thread is not about strength, if it were then the US is certianly somewhere in the top ten, it's about the hype around the military. |
Umm.. You make it sound like America is at war with the UK. 
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The American Army may be the biggest in the world, but it certainly is not the best in the world. We are !! - And we have proven it time and time again throughout history !! 
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Leo, if you were in the army (which I think you once indicated you were), how does the real army shape up to the image given by the media? |
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| leohopkins |
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Before I can answer your question I need to know what image you are speaking of ?
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Still waiting  
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Well read the 'kin papers then!!! |
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It's 'pickin' and well you know it!  |
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