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  1. #1 Do you think the new moderator should be voted in? 
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    Well waddya think?


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    No, it's not a democracy. The web site owner should pick the people who will moderate in the manner he wants.


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    I didn't even realize there were serious plans to get a new moderator. When was that decided?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paralith
    I didn't even realize there were serious plans to get a new moderator. When was that decided?
    See the thread Sticky: New Moderators Wanted
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    Quote Originally Posted by paralith
    I didn't even realize there were serious plans to get a new moderator. When was that decided?
    There is a stickied thread in this section about it.

    Edit: You beat me by a fraction of a second apparently . Although, that may be an exageration.
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    Oops. I feel silly now.
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    Popularity contests suck for forums, Just leads to a bunch of wackos taking over the threads and causing problems for people who don't agree with them. Kind of like a special interest group, people who win votes usually have a bias.
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    I voted "no"

    but I think we could give the new mod a rich hazing... en masse... then our new mod will either wither and quit the post or stay on proven tough.
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    Nope also on my part.

    Reason: There are too many ButtNuts who think thy're fit to fill in as a Moderator. This Forum is run by a person (i.e. the Boss) and if he sees fit to choose another person as Moderator it's his cup of tea. Like applying for a job.
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    I agree with the general sentiment here that moderators should not be voted on.

    Besides the reasons already given there are also practical reasons: we're now selecting moderators for specific sections rather than for the forum as a whole. Without some complicated system it would be pure coincidence if an election would result in the right mix of skills and interests.

    Suggestions are always welcome, but I don't see how this one is achievable (nor beneficial).
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    I voted a definte “no”. One of the most important qualities a moderator should possess is complete impartiality. A moderator who makes a decision (e.g. whether a post should be moved/edited/deleted, is it spam, etc) should do so based on the merits of the individual case; he/she should not be making the decision based on how his/her supporters want the matter to be settled. What if a moderator who is voted into power starts favouring his/her fan club in the forum? In times of conflict, this might lead to even worse problems than troll or spam problems – since this would be a problem from iinside rather than from outside.

    At the moment “no” is winning the race. Go “no”!
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    I'm tempted to apply to moderate the physics section, since it needs some serious cleaning up. That also seems to be the general concensus among other posters in that forum too, so I'd love to be the one to get rid of those trolls. But then, would that be being impartial? I don't think so, because what you are supporting/encouraging is discussion of proper science.

    I generally don't think that voting for moderators would work, but the admin should decide who moderates and how. Problem is, what style of moderation is being encouraged when trolls are free to post all over?
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    Yeah, my wife used to visit the forum called baby gaga, and then the site admin started a voting process for new moderators, and it turned into a huge popularity struggle, with the side with the winning candidates pretty much shutting out the rest of the forum members. She ended up not going to the forum due to what it had degenerated into.
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    that's one of the main reasons why i don't want to be a moderator : i would not know what to do with members like William McCormick, theQuestIsNotOver and madmonk

    my gut instinct to expunge their posts would clash with my horror of censorship + i would have to take them off my ignore list and start reading their drivel

    that, and my feeling that the last person you should trust to hold a position of power is the one that proposes him or herself
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBennet
    I voted a definte “no”. One of the most important qualities a moderator should possess is complete impartiality.
    Nice idea, but is that really the case with some of the moderators?

    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBennet
    A moderator who makes a decision (e.g. whether a post should be moved/edited/deleted, is it spam, etc) should do so based on the merits of the individual case; he/she should not be making the decision based on how his/her supporters want the matter to be settled. What if a moderator who is voted into power starts favouring his/her fan club in the forum? In times of conflict, this might lead to even worse problems than troll or spam problems – since this would be a problem from iinside rather than from outside.
    Favouritism and fan clubs shouldn't be a problem if voting is anonymous.


    I for one would leave the forum if certain individuals became moderators because i know full well they wouldn't be impartial due to their impartiality and particular attitudes in the past towards members and topics.
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    The problem is is that when someone is given power, most on majority change, even if slightly. So the person voted in as 'most appropriate', may change once a moderator. Maybe if there are a lot of good candidates for moderator, they should be trialed in their moderating abilites and a few tutorials or something given by existing moderators in that hidden thread area, to see who remains most capable, and more approriatley put, able to maintain and manage the responsibility they have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selene
    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBennet
    I voted a definte “no”. One of the most important qualities a moderator should possess is complete impartiality.
    Nice idea, but is that really the case with some of the moderators?
    You keep making these claims without backing them up, that's unhelpful. If you have an issue with a moderator then you can always pm another moderator about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 425 Chaotic Requisition
    The problem is is that when someone is given power, most on majority change, even if slightly. So the person voted in as 'most appropriate', may change once a moderator. Maybe if there are a lot of good candidates for moderator, they should be trialed in their moderating abilites and a few tutorials or something given by existing moderators in that hidden thread area, to see who remains most capable, and more approriatley put, able to maintain and manage the responsibility they have.
    We'll make sure to mentor and monitor the new mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon
    Quote Originally Posted by Selene
    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBennet
    I voted a definte “no”. One of the most important qualities a moderator should possess is complete impartiality.
    Nice idea, but is that really the case with some of the moderators?
    You keep making these claims without backing them up, that's unhelpful. If you have an issue with a moderator then you can always pm another moderator about it.
    I totally agree with Pendragon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBennet
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon
    Quote Originally Posted by Selene
    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBennet
    I voted a definte “no”. One of the most important qualities a moderator should possess is complete impartiality.
    Nice idea, but is that really the case with some of the moderators?
    You keep making these claims without backing them up, that's unhelpful. If you have an issue with a moderator then you can always pm another moderator about it.
    I totally agree with Pendragon.
    Of course you do

    People like you are very agreeable when you aren't insulting other members
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    I'd like to cast my vote for madmonk.
    "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt" - Bertrand Russell
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