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  1. #1 Neo-Darwinists and Neo-Conservatives 
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    Anyone seen a similarity?

    Both are ideologues who insist that they are right and
    that everyone else is wrong.

    The neo-dars regard religion as the root of all evil
    the neo-cons regard liberals as the evil ones.

    They are intolerant and fundamentalists in nature
    who claim "you are with us or against us". If
    against us, you are a heretic or traitor respectively.

    The Paleaeo-Darwinists and Palaeo-Conservatives
    are equally despondent about how they have had
    their ground usurped from under them.


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    "Neo-Darwinism"? Strange term, it suggests that Darwin's theory is being 'rediscovered'. Perhaps that describes the situation in the US, which I'm not familiar with, but in Europe interest in evolution theory never dropped enough to speak of a 'rediscovery' (as far as I know). It would be like talking about "Neo-Einsteinism".

    In fact, I see you use the theory of evolution as an ideology. It's not a scientific theory anymore?
    I don't see a link between seeing religions as the root of evil and Darwin's theory of evolution. Sure evolution inspires good arguments against creation and such, but does it inspire the idea that religions cause evil?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon
    "Neo-Darwinism"? Strange term, it suggests that Darwin's theory is being 'rediscovered'. Perhaps that describes the situation in the US, which I'm not familiar with, but in Europe interest in evolution theory never dropped enough to speak of a 'rediscovery' (as far as I know). It would be like talking about "Neo-Einsteinism".

    In fact, I see you use the theory of evolution as an ideology. It's not a scientific theory anymore?
    I don't see a link between seeing religions as the root of evil and Darwin's theory of evolution. Sure evolution inspires good arguments against creation and such, but does it inspire the idea that religions cause evil?

    Neo-Darwinism is a term coined by Dawkins himself.

    It seeks to explain evolution purely along the lines of natural selection
    ( as opposed to drift , molecular drive etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliopolis
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon
    "Neo-Darwinism"? Strange term, it suggests that Darwin's theory is being 'rediscovered'. Perhaps that describes the situation in the US, which I'm not familiar with, but in Europe interest in evolution theory never dropped enough to speak of a 'rediscovery' (as far as I know). It would be like talking about "Neo-Einsteinism".

    In fact, I see you use the theory of evolution as an ideology. It's not a scientific theory anymore?
    I don't see a link between seeing religions as the root of evil and Darwin's theory of evolution. Sure evolution inspires good arguments against creation and such, but does it inspire the idea that religions cause evil?

    Neo-Darwinism is a term coined by Dawkins himself.

    It seeks to explain evolution purely along the lines of natural selection
    ( as opposed to drift , molecular drive etc)
    Does that make it an ideology? There seems to be a missing link here :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliopolis
    Neo-Darwinism is a term coined by Dawkins himself.

    It seeks to explain evolution purely along the lines of natural selection
    ( as opposed to drift , molecular drive etc)
    Is this what the (1930's) eugenicists followed, and what modern white supremacists follow? I imagine they would not offend religion though.
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    Neo-Darwinism is a term coined by Dawkins himself.
    Hardly.

    According to Wiki "The term was first used by George Romanes in 1895 ..."
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  8. #7 Re: Neo-Darwinists and Neo-Conservatives 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliopolis
    Anyone seen a similarity?

    Both are ideologues who insist that they are right and
    that everyone else is wrong.

    The neo-dars regard religion as the root of all evil
    the neo-cons regard liberals as the evil ones.

    They are intolerant and fundamentalists in nature
    who claim "you are with us or against us". If
    against us, you are a heretic or traitor respectively.

    The Paleaeo-Darwinists and Palaeo-Conservatives
    are equally despondent about how they have had
    their ground usurped from under them.
    I think you need to do some clear definitions before this can evolve into a useful discussion.
    What precisely is a neo-Darwinist, in your words.
    Same for neo-conservative. And for liberal (different connotations in Europe and the US).
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