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  1. #1 A question about a CV im writting... 
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    In your opinion, would it be advisable to say i have a healthy social life in a section in titled achievements and interests having already talked bout my achievements and interests.

    Basicly im applying for an undergraduate summer research position. its a program that not only lets undergraduates take part in real research, but also has a social end to it, in a way. your living with others on the program.

    its a breif mention of how i do enjoy social things along with other.

    i see no problem adding it. Do you?


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    ask yourself the question : wil adding that line to your statement improve your chances to land the position or not ?
    if you think it will, by all means add it - otherwise don't


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    Hmm good point, i forgot the rule, be positive unless its important. to the issue.

    ok, let me ask a different question, if you were applying for such a program would you consider it would help for the reader to understand that one of your major interests in your free time, is in fact a good social life.

    (oh and stress the free time bit)
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    from what I understand, a CV is only supposed to refer to your interests and abilities as they apply to your academic and professional work. I personally don't think that your interest in social life belongs on a CV.

    Besides, in my experience, if the admissions people for a program like this believe that social life or some other aspects of the applicant that might not be apparent on a CV are important, then they will ask for an application essay of some kind, and that would be where you would mention these kinds of things.
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    EDIT - ah you touched a nerve of sorts there paralith, for there is a section where i am asked to say why i am applying!

    Thanks for your responses, words of experience!

    that is alot more legible, my excuse for the origional post - hypoglycaemic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodgod3rd
    Hmm good point, i forgot the rule, be positive unless its important. to the issue.

    ok, let me ask a different question, if you were applying for such a program would you consider it would help for the reader to understand that one of your major interests in your free time, is in fact a good social life.

    (oh and stress the free time bit)
    If I were reading your CV and saw an emphasis on free time I might ask myself if this person would be down the pub when he's supposed to be in the lab, and is he buying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodgod3rd
    ah you touched a nerve of sorts there paralith, for maybe i should leave that bit for the reason why i am applying for the program?

    from your two responses i think i'll leave it out for now. thanks. (your words of experience)
    touched a nerve? I didn't mean to offend, I was trying to offer my objective opinion on what's appropriate. If there's more information about your situation that I don't have, please let me know.
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    OH, that's not what i meant Paralith! Damm, i am very incoherent these days!

    touched a nerve as in, there was a segment like the one you described! :wink: your completely right about that, there is another segment.

    Perhaps free time wouldn't be the right phrase all right - what i had down so far was "I also enjoy a healthy social life both inside college through the students union but also outside through other friends in other areas of work."

    The heading (i was given a sample CV which makes it more straight forward for applicants, so its not a typical Cv) is Interests - with three sub heading School, University and Other.

    School and University are both filled with the work i do with helping other students, and my aside student job of leader/supervisor in a program which gives younger students at school, an ideadof various courses and sample lectures and stuff.

    so i read other as being... other things you do. in a way.

    (note my other ... other is reading the likes of new scientist and articles on-line ect. which it is, a big hobbie of mine)
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodgod3rd
    OH, that's not what i meant Paralith! Damm, i am very incoherent these days!

    touched a nerve as in, there was a segment like the one you described! :wink: your completely right about that, there is another segment.

    Perhaps free time wouldn't be the right phrase all right - what i had down so far was "I also enjoy a healthy social life both inside college through the students union but also outside through other friends in other areas of work."

    The heading (i was given a sample CV which makes it more straight forward for applicants, so its not a typical Cv) is Interests - with three sub heading School, University and Other.

    School and University are both filled with the work i do with helping other students, and my aside student job of leader/supervisor in a program which gives younger students at school, an ideadof various courses and sample lectures and stuff.

    so i read other as being... other things you do. in a way.

    (note my other ... other is reading the likes of new scientist and articles on-line ect. which it is, a big hobbie of mine)
    No worries, my friend. I do think that listing your science-related hobbies outside of school is probably what they're looking for in the heading of "other." Besides, in the essay, you'll be able to convey your social leanings far better than you would be able to in a one-line summary in a CV.

    And don't get me wrong, your ability to work well with others can be really important when it comes to research. In most labs you'll be working in teams with others, and collaboration with other researchers is very important as well. And unlike your friends, you don't always choose who you work with, so being able to work well with all types of people is a good thing to mention - where appropriate, of course.
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    In all honesty, i do work well with people, perhaps not online here, but in person.

    thanks for all the input guys!
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodgod3rd
    In all honesty, i do work well with people, perhaps not online here, but in person.

    thanks for all the input guys!
    and if they do question you being down the pub then you can always say that great discoveries have been made in them e.g DNA
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    Indeed, the enzyme EC 1.1.1.1 was predominantly discussed in a pub when the classification was being pionerred, and at the time (in the pub) thought to be of most importance!

    or So my enzymology lecturer says. . .
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    if you write 'healthy social life' this conjurs up images of parties, drunkeness and sex

    better rather to say things like

    Good team work skills and provide example of when you displayed good team work.

    Have lived in shared acomodation previously - details


    type of thing

    reference from landlord?

    Other wise leave it out.
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    on the other hand, proof that you can organise a piss-up in a brewery would be acceptable
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    Ha, funny you should mention that - my current land lady (Who lived in the same house) died over xmas . . . that was real sad.
    on the other hand, proof that you can organise a piss-up in a brewery would be acceptable
    Ah well, perhaps not. I could organise a piss up almost anywhere mind you.

    I have already decided to not put that part in. Got good advice here, thanks.
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