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    Forum Radioactive Isotope cosmictraveler's Avatar
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    It costs over $35,000.00 to keep a federal prisoner incarcerated yearly but Social Security only pays about $12,000.00 a year when you retire in America. If those that retire with only a SS check to rely upon it would be advantageous to get put into prison for at least you're going to eat, be housed, get medical help and be clothed. Not many people can live on $12,000.00 a year so I'd think the prison life might be easier to retire into rather than trying to live on $12,000.00 in the real world for with only that much you really can't live very well.

    What do you think, is trying to survive on 12,000.00 a year better or just live in prison in order to retire without worry of income or debts?


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    you could go rob a bank.

    if you get caught your put in prison and you get those nessesities you mentioned or you could get away with it and have more money.

    it is pretty stupid how the prisoners would have it better than the good citizen living of SS.

    but how many people retire on there SS only.


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    $12000 is still $230/week, which is about 2/3 of what a lot of single parents earn and support families on
    and so the balance of power shifts...
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    and most single parents have a hard enough time trying to scratch a living as it is let alone during retirement when they not working.
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    When retired at say age 65 or so your priorities change and like today when many people only live with a retirement check from SS that they only have one income. Many people worked for companies that didn't have or are now being taken away pension plans as you well know. What are those people going to do if their lifestyle is altered so that they must live only on SS?

    Remember that dentistry, TV , PC and other things are included when you're in prison. All of those things you might not afford living on the outside. Insurances for your car, health and home also must be paid out.

    It will take at least $500.00 a month to have an apartment then food, clothing, car, insurances, telephone and power plus other day to day things that need being taken care of. I really would think that $12,000.00 a year isn't going to go very far in todays world, do you?

    I'd think prison just might be a better alternative rather than trying to make ends meet and going into debt. I just wonder why it is that the Social Security Administration doesn't give more to those who retire so that they could live a little better than what $12,000.00can do for them.The poverty line is around 10,000.0 per year so that anyone making that much would be considered poor.
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    well ive never had to live on $12000, but my friends family was living on about $19000 until the other parent was able to start working again after children, and it worked out there.
    however i still think the current family assistance and superannuation rates are extermely low, despite labours recent boosts in their pre-election popularlity fest
    and so the balance of power shifts...
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    As long as I was healthy I'd take my chances on the $12000 per year.
    "loosen up"
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    I've gotten used to it, the $12,000 a year. That is exactly what I get for my disability for depression. It is okay. I can't do some of the things I would like to, but that is the trade-off one has to make when one is not working. Throw in the depression, and there really aren't that many things I am interested in or motivated by anyway.

    As far as what it costs to take care of a prison in-mate, I think most of that is really just "pork-barrel" spending and a sign of the corruption in this nation's capital.

    P.S. I have a few words for those who call me an abuser of the system, if you are so inclined. I will eat your fucking babies.
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    Cottontop,

    My daughter (25) is on disability for depression. I will share your meal if invited to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superluminal
    Cottontop,

    My daughter (25) is on disability for depression. I will share your meal if invited to do so.
    Thanks Superluminal. It is nice to have people around who understand. Have you ever suffered from depression, either acute or major? So far, it seems like the world has just drained all my energy and left me a hollow shell of a human. I wonder sometimes if I will ever feel "normal" again. Med's don't work, for me, counselling doesn't, God sure as hell doesn't, family doesn't, love hasn't so far, sex definitley not, my own ability (the verdict is still out), anger-management classes (have helped a little with the anger issues), isolation (has helped with the violence issues, for the most part, as there is no opportunity).

    Anyway, thanks again. If you only knew how hard it is to write each post on this forum, I would feel a little better, for a while.
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    Cottontop,

    I am currently out of a job and on an increased dose of Zoloft which I'm sure you've heard of. It seems to work marginally for me as most of the time I feel very much the way you describe. However, with my wife and family, I'm hanging in there. There are many times (like today) when my wife and I agree that life as we know it has sucked the essence from us. We go to counseling and it seems to help - sometimes. I'm 43 years old and lately have been considering retiring to a secure little cave like a kid hiding away. I read you 5 by 5.
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    Cosmictraveler,

    Sorry to have hi-jacked your thread. Just have one more thing to say, and then I'll shut up about it.

    Superluminal,

    Hang in there! That's about all I can offer. I know it's hard, almost impossible at times, it seems, but maybe somewhere down the line there will be a light. If you have thought about Electro-Convulsive Therapy (ECT), for either yourself, your wife, or your daughter, I would recommend that you forget about it. I have never done it, but I have been tempted. I did some research a few weeks back and found that a lot of people (I'm not saying all) found out that it works okay for about three months at a shot, and then if you don't get it continuously every three months thereafter, you get even worse. In addition, your short-term memory may get completely shot until you stop the treatments. I think a few doctors are really pushing it though, probably because they have a vested interest in it. Be careful.

    Also, I've found that most anti-depressants only do one thing, which may or may not be beneficial, and that is to keep me one step above being suicidal. Somehow, they keep me from thinking about suicide as much, but they have done nothing to make me feel any better. Nothing. I have been on all of them too. Currently back on Prozac, as I only took it for a month when I first saw a doctor in 1995 at the age of 25. Then, I didn't want to admit I had a problem, quit taking it, and 4 years later when I crashed and burned, they said they had better drugs now, so I tried all of them and have just now decided to try Prozac again for a long enough period of time to see if it will do something. So far, though, after about 5 months, I've had etremely mixed results. At times I feel different. Of course, they all change your body's brain chemistry so it is inevitable that you will "feel" different, for a while at least. I've always felt short term results, but it seems like my body gets used to the drugs, like cocaine or speed, or anything, and then you either need more and more to get the same benefits (which are mild to non-existent to begin with) or you lose all benefit no matter how much you take. On the negative side with Prozac, I'm unable to sleep anymore for more than 3-5 hours at a time, and I am not interested in eating anymore at all.

    Anyway, thought some might be interested in this, even though it is completely off topic.

    Sorry again, Cosmictraveler.
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