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  1. #1 Did you remember to remember? 
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    Just a query to you all; did you all have 2 minutes silence on the 11th of November at 11:00am?


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    Are you testing me to see if I react well?

    525600 minutes a year, and all they ask for is 2.

    I won't be leanient here either. But I guess you geniuenly forgot.
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    No.

    i didn't care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spuriousmonkey
    No.

    i didn't care.
    It better be to get me a reaction .
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    i was boozing on the 11th. It was my wife's birthday. big party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spuriousmonkey
    i was boozing on the 11th. It was my wife's birthday. big party.
    Now you are really taking the p1ss. Your female anyway so that makes no sense. Tut tut tut.
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    no wait. you are right. I always get confused because of 9/11.

    her birthday is on the 9th of the 11th month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svwillmer
    Just a query to you all; did you all have 2 minutes silence on the 11th of November at 11:00am?
    no but I did at 6:00am i was still in my cot.
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    Har. No, I did not. I forgot. Nor would I have bothered to remember it.
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    Do you guys actually ENJOY winding me up? Becuase I'm starting to laugh now, seriously.
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    No, we enjoy proving that your excessive optimism is blinding you to the reality. NOBODY. GIVES. A. SHIT.
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    What is 11/11/11:00 anyway? We don't celebrate that here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremyhfht
    No, we enjoy proving that your excessive optimism is blinding you to the reality. NOBODY. GIVES. A. SHIT.
    The millions upon millions upon millions that died for you to say that hm? The millions across the world from your own country as well? They died so you can say 'We don't give a shit?' The LORD purify me after I say this Jeremy, this is not directed at the entire of you, but your selfishness. You big headed, self centred--. I tell you what take a trip to Flanders fields, the masses of graves over here, even in your own country. Go to war yourself and fight, even if you don't want to, kill people mercilessly because you were told to and then die for it. Then say that again. That is as selfish as you can get. I can't believe you'd say that, and you think religion causes the problems, its pig headed fools like you that ruin this world, not us. I pity you, what respect I had for you has gone, and if others see your nature? Well they'll pity you too. I thought you said you were nice to folk and meditated? I've never heard anyone say that, and I find it disgusting. Its understandable to forget, but to purposfully not give a sh!t about it? Your obviously going to have to go through it all over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER
    What is 11/11/11:00 anyway? We don't celebrate that here
    Its not a celebration. Its rememberance, a 2 minutes silence to those who died in war, the millions that died in war from all countries in the world. To remember the dead, and to not forget the living. It's courtesy for those who have suffered for our freedom, it's not really much to ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER
    What is 11/11/11:00 anyway? We don't celebrate that here
    Apparently we do observe it. It's called "Remembrance Day" in the UK, "Poppy Day" in South Africa. First I've heard about it either.

    In South Africa, the day is not a public holiday. Commemoration ceremonies are usually held on the following Sunday, at which, as with Australia and Britain, the "Last Post" is played by a bugler followed by the observation of a two-minute silence. The two biggest commemoration ceremonies to mark the event in South Africa are held in Johannesburg, at the Cenotaph (where it has been held for 84 consecutive years), and at the War Memorial at the Union Buildings in Pretoria.
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    Svwillmer, please realize that 11/11 doesn't have much meaning outside the UK and commonwealth. Only a few countries would recognise the allied effort in WW1 as a genuine fight for freedom, most consider the entire war a twisted remnant of imperialism. Many of the soldiers involved could've fought for good ideals, but I doubt this was the case for their leaders (I know 11/11 is a combined remembrance for WW1 and WW2, but that's a British peculiarity).

    In my opinion WW2 is an entirely different story, I'd get pissed if people denied the courage and idealism involved in WW2. So I will remember on 4th May, our WW2 remembrance day.

    Btw in the Netherlands 11/11 is St. Maarten's day, so children go from house to house singing songs to get candy (a bit like Halloween, including hollowed out pumpkins).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon
    Svwillmer, please realize that 11/11 doesn't have much meaning outside the UK and commonwealth. Only a few countries would recognise the allied effort in WW1 as a genuine fight for freedom, most consider the entire war a twisted remnant of imperialism. Many of the soldiers involved could've fought for good ideals, but I doubt this was the case for their leaders (I know 11/11 is a combined remembrance for WW1 and WW2, but that's a British peculiarity).

    In my opinion WW2 is an entirely different story, I'd get pissed if people denied the courage and idealism involved in WW2. So I will remember on 4th May, our WW2 remembrance day.

    Btw in the Netherlands 11/11 is St. Maarten's day, so children go from house to house singing songs to get candy (a bit like Halloween, including hollowed out pumpkins).
    I think thats actually a good way to remember it, children.

    We aren't remembering what the leaders did, we are remembering the sacrafice of men, women and children who perhaps did not know the true reason to the wars, they just fought because they thought they were doing right BOTH SIDES DID. Thats why I remember, I remember their sacrafice and meekness. Their lives, not only that, but their future place of their genes in history gone too. The only legacy they have is 2 minutes every year. It's not asking much is it? I guess that Europe truly are the only ones that remember this, or should. May God have mercy on the old world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svwillmer
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon
    Btw in the Netherlands 11/11 is St. Maarten's day, so children go from house to house singing songs to get candy (a bit like Halloween, including hollowed out pumpkins).
    I think thats actually a good way to remember it, children.
    St. Maarten's Day has nothing to do with "it" though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TvEye
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    Btw in the Netherlands 11/11 is St. Maarten's day, so children go from house to house singing songs to get candy (a bit like Halloween, including hollowed out pumpkins).
    I think thats actually a good way to remember it, children.
    St. Maarten's Day has nothing to do with "it" though.
    So whats the point in it being said!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by svwillmer
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    Btw in the Netherlands 11/11 is St. Maarten's day, so children go from house to house singing songs to get candy (a bit like Halloween, including hollowed out pumpkins).
    I think thats actually a good way to remember it, children.
    St. Maarten's Day has nothing to do with "it" though.
    So whats the point in it being said!?
    Simply to illustrate that a day can have very different meanings to different people. You may be partying on 4th May, which in the Netherlands would be a strange thing. By the same token some people are partying on 11/11, it shouldn't wind you up.
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    As long as you remember 2 minutes at any point in the year, thats at least a good enough compromise. But I think everyone at 11:00 on 11/11 should stop just for 2 minutes and remember, its not really asking much is it really?

    In WWII 72 million people died, and a lot that surivived have emotional and psychological problems due to their experiences. There have been well over 100 million people died from war WELL OVER. And almost as much injured too. It's not really asking much is it? I can't beleive how selfish the modern generation is. Why?
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    I did remember that many lost their lives for our freedom, and that freedom includes whether or not we wish remember :?
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    I don't partake in any formal remembrance of people that died in wars/other reasons. Simply because they can’t see it, can they? I do appreciate what they did though. I have watched Band of Brothers a few time already, but I would like to see some movies from someone else's perspective once in a while. No offence, but the Americans do tend to glorify their involvement in wars more than usual. I hated Windtalkers for instance. :?
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    Quote Originally Posted by svwillmer
    As long as you remember 2 minutes at any point in the year, thats at least a good enough compromise. But I think everyone at 11:00 on 11/11 should stop just for 2 minutes and remember, its not really asking much is it really?

    In WWII 72 million people died, and a lot that surivived have emotional and psychological problems due to their experiences. There have been well over 100 million people died from war WELL OVER. And almost as much injured too. It's not really asking much is it? I can't beleive how selfish the modern generation is. Why?
    Hey Willmer

    I had three poppies (one for each coat) and a separate sticker for my rucksack.

    I also spent those two minutes silently (Virgin Radio Classic Rock for the cue).

    But...

    I would never want to impose my sentiments upon others. And certainyl not castigate them for selfishness should they not see things my way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshinewarrio
    Quote Originally Posted by svwillmer
    As long as you remember 2 minutes at any point in the year, thats at least a good enough compromise. But I think everyone at 11:00 on 11/11 should stop just for 2 minutes and remember, its not really asking much is it really?

    In WWII 72 million people died, and a lot that surivived have emotional and psychological problems due to their experiences. There have been well over 100 million people died from war WELL OVER. And almost as much injured too. It's not really asking much is it? I can't beleive how selfish the modern generation is. Why?
    Hey Willmer

    I had three poppies (one for each coat) and a separate sticker for my rucksack.

    I also spent those two minutes silently (Virgin Radio Classic Rock for the cue).

    But...

    I would never want to impose my sentiments upon others. And certainyl not castigate them for selfishness should they not see things my way.

    No?
    It just makes me really upset that they can think that way, no I can't accept that, only if every person who has ever died in war said I didn't need to get angry at them for thinking that way, thanks for trying to compromise though shanks :wink:.
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    freedom of speach and thought.

    freedom they fought for if you like,
    Stumble on through life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodgod3rd
    freedom of speach and thought.

    freedom they fought for if you like,
    I know what you meant. But free to p1ss on what was died for? I can't accept that, the most I can do is pity them, I'm sorry if that offends some of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svwillmer
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    freedom of speach and thought.

    freedom they fought for if you like,
    I know what you meant. But free to p1ss on what was died for? I can't accept that, the most I can do is pity them, I'm sorry if that offends some of them.
    I don't see how not stopping and doing nothing for two minutes is equal to pissing on the sacrifice made by those people. That's a rather extreme extrapolation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paralith
    Quote Originally Posted by svwillmer
    Quote Originally Posted by goodgod3rd
    freedom of speach and thought.

    freedom they fought for if you like,
    I know what you meant. But free to p1ss on what was died for? I can't accept that, the most I can do is pity them, I'm sorry if that offends some of them.
    I don't see how not stopping and doing nothing for two minutes is equal to pissing on the sacrifice made by those people. That's a rather extreme extrapolation.
    No, all this came from Jeremy have a look at his post.
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    he was being as acerbic as usual, but all he's saying is that he doesn't think its worth sitting and doing nothing for two minutes. that most certainly doesn't mean that he thinks every effort done during the war was a big pile of crap. but like shanks pointed out, not everyone is going to appreciate your telling us all what we should and should not do and what that implies about our overall personality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paralith
    he was being as acerbic as usual, but all he's saying is that he doesn't think its worth sitting and doing nothing for two minutes. that most certainly doesn't mean that he thinks every effort done during the war was a big pile of crap. but like shanks pointed out, not everyone is going to appreciate your telling us all what we should and should not do and what that implies about our overall personality.
    But you have to admit that if thats what I thought from what was put, that I picked that opinion up of him because of his attitude and style of writing and expressing himself? How do you think I would have reacted to smeone saying oh yes I remembered? How would you react if I called you a bitch or something (not that I am, I'm trying to get you to see the severity of how one presents oneself and how others may interperet that). And given that Jeremy generally comes across as a jerk then (and to everyone) is it not that he is presenting himself wrongly or that we are noticing that he is not what we want him to be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by svwillmer
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    he was being as acerbic as usual, but all he's saying is that he doesn't think its worth sitting and doing nothing for two minutes. that most certainly doesn't mean that he thinks every effort done during the war was a big pile of crap. but like shanks pointed out, not everyone is going to appreciate your telling us all what we should and should not do and what that implies about our overall personality.
    But you have to admit that if thats what I thought from what was put, that I picked that opinion up of him because of his attitude and style of writing and expressing himself? How do you think I would have reacted to smeone saying oh yes I remembered? How would you react if I called you a bitch or something (not that I am, I'm trying to get you to see the severity of how one presents oneself and how others may interperet that). And given that Jeremy generally comes across as a jerk then (and to everyone) is it not that he is presenting himself wrongly or that we are noticing that he is not what we want him to be?
    Sometimes people are anal. Sometimes people are anal alot. You can choose to either blow your stack every time they disagree with you in a less than polite manner, or you can let them do their thing and not bother trying to force your opinions on someone who's clearly going to have none of it. Sometimes people act like jerks but that doesn't make them inherently selfish and evil people. That's not an extrapolation you or I or anyone else has the right to make based on stuff posted in an online forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paralith
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    Quote Originally Posted by paralith
    he was being as acerbic as usual, but all he's saying is that he doesn't think its worth sitting and doing nothing for two minutes. that most certainly doesn't mean that he thinks every effort done during the war was a big pile of crap. but like shanks pointed out, not everyone is going to appreciate your telling us all what we should and should not do and what that implies about our overall personality.
    But you have to admit that if thats what I thought from what was put, that I picked that opinion up of him because of his attitude and style of writing and expressing himself? How do you think I would have reacted to smeone saying oh yes I remembered? How would you react if I called you a bitch or something (not that I am, I'm trying to get you to see the severity of how one presents oneself and how others may interperet that). And given that Jeremy generally comes across as a jerk then (and to everyone) is it not that he is presenting himself wrongly or that we are noticing that he is not what we want him to be?
    Sometimes people are anal. Sometimes people are anal alot. You can choose to either blow your stack every time they disagree with you in a less than polite manner, or you can let them do their thing and not bother trying to force your opinions on someone who's clearly going to have none of it. Sometimes people act like jerks but that doesn't make them inherently selfish and evil people. That's not an extrapolation you or I or anyone else has the right to make based on stuff posted in an online forum.
    Agreed, but usually such places online are a place for people to vent their steam knowing that whomever they offend or insult will never get a retaliation for it (at least in the physical sense), so people are more likely to be themselves online without fear of redemption. When Jeremy has been cautioned before he has placed his foot gently in the water instead of jumping in, that effect now however is wearing off. But on the other side being on such a place like this is most likely to over express yourself,a nd of course we all have bad days.
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