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    I am anonymous. I can be more than one person. I know you as a username. I could be right next door or half way around the world. I solicit response. I comment. I have only words to offer. I could be lying or telling the truth. I could care or not. I am your friend. I am your enemy. I am faceless. I am an image formed in your mind. I have no form. I understand I cannot change this.

    You can't insult me without knowing me. You can't offend me knowingly. You cannot possibly know everything about me. You can bet that some people are dead serious. You can never be absolutely 100% sure.

    Such are the vagaries of the internet forum clientele. For myself I try to refrain from vulgarity seeing how that seems to be a universal threat but even that is paltry. Maybe forums should have a legal age dislaimer as to not influence the minors in the crowd. Honestly, how can anyone feel insulted on the internet?

    Perhaps it's passion and frustration that are 2 of the main reasons members lash out at their peers. I have to admit I find a topic a lot more interesting when the fur is flying. People have to realize that this is a debate between people who are merely ghosts, figuratively speaking. They'll never see each other.

    I think the mods need to be a little more patient unless the forum itself is operating under a code or licence that is scrutinized by an overseeing regulating authority.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    I think the mods need to be a little more patient unless the forum itself is operating under a code or licence that is scrutinized by an overseeing regulating authority.
    Since I took up the moderator reins again a couple of months ago I have read repeated observations about the poor quality of moderation on the site. Virtually all of these have demanded more moderation, not less.
    One of the things I learned from many years in management is that not only can you not please all of the people all of the time, but there are some people you can never please.
    Forums are for exchanging ideas. If we moderate them so that all ideas antithetical to our own are excluded it will be a pretty barren place. I vote, through my general inaction, the same way you are advocating, therefore I am somewhat bemused that you think the mods show a lack of patience.


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    note from the book of forum etiquette - if you feel like lashing out, do the following :

    1. write your thoughts down and save them as a local file
    2. walk away from your PC + do something else
    3. after half an hour to an hour return to your local file and re-read it
    4. now asked yourself the question : do i really want to send this ?
    5. if the answer is still yes, by all means DO post
    6. be prepared to take any flack that comes your way

    it wouldn't be the first time that i wrote a post and on completion pressed the 'Back' rather than the 'Submit' button because i thought better of it
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    I knew I should have never mentioned the mods :wink: .

    How many ways can you insult someone on the internet? Personally I can't see why somebody would feel insulted because of my reasons in that first post. However there are some circumstances that might warrant an insult hitting home.

    I've used sarcasm plenty of times but it is hit or miss whether the target gets it or not. Condescending attitudes are prevalent: the 'I know more than you and I'm going to kick your ass because of it' syndrome. 'Knowledge is power' they say. Questioning someone's education or lack of education is a good one. Nothing like jumping all over a guy for spelling and grammar mistakes, especially when its obvious English is not the mother tongue. I guess that's just being ignorant and arrogant, but can a person with those outstanding attributes really insult you? I mean consider the source and the fact this is the internet where anonymity reigns supreme.

    I think Sci-Forums itself may be guilty of insulting behavior at time. Can't tell me the ignore button promotes goodwill. Mods themselves inject the odd sarcastic remark. Posts are pulled that in no way are insulting but because they sound like preaching, then it's off with their heads. Take care of the trolls and everything will be all right.

    Am I insulting the poster if I start reading their post and then, when I discover it goes on and on, give up on it? Nah! Its an acceptable level of ignorance. Am I insulting the poster if I also ignore a multitude of links connected with their post? And how is it an insult if the poster googles his information....what the hell difference does it make? Obviously the complainers have done the same.

    No I think we can all survive a little slam now and then. One can learn from it and one can be stronger from it. A little humble pie now and then is good for the soul.
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    People do feel insulted though, so whether you can understand it or not is irrelevant. I feel annoyed with some types of posting more than personally insulted.

    One of the things that annoy me most is when people say 'you have no life'. If I detailed a single day of mine you'd see how absurd that statement is, but it is not the comment itself that annoys so much as the stupid logic behind it.

    Ie, 17hrs in a waking day, 1-2hrs collective posting spread throughout a day does not a full day make, but for some it apparantly does, hence the 'you have no life- if you post on Internet for 2hrs total per day' etc.

    That is what I find annoying...stupidity.


    talking of which, a good example of stupid annoying posting can be seen as reported here:

    http://sciforums.blogspot.com/2007/1...ainst-him.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    People do feel insulted though, so whether you can understand it or not is irrelevant.
    I can understand why in a face to face confrontation where at least one of the parties is known but on a faceless dubious internet?

    That is what I find annoying...stupidity.
    A good choice of words because how can you insult a stupid person? Makes me wonder if you have to have brains to be insulting and then need to have brains to know when you've been victimized? A good insult is cerebral in nature. Why be upset when you receive one? Sit back, analyze, and appreciate. Think of a good counterstroke, turn it into a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    People do feel insulted though, so whether you can understand it or not is irrelevant.
    I can understand why in a face to face confrontation where at least one of the parties is known but on a faceless dubious internet?

    That is what I find annoying...stupidity.
    A good choice of words because how can you insult a stupid person? Makes me wonder if you have to have brains to be insulting and then need to have brains to know when you've been victimized? A good insult is cerebral in nature. Why be upset when you receive one? Sit back, analyze, and appreciate. Think of a good counterstroke, turn it into a game.
    bravo, you missed the point entirely.

    Now I feel annoyed by you, the faceless internet poster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    bravo, you missed the point entirely.

    Now I feel annoyed by you, the faceless internet poster.
    You forgot dubious. If I didn't know better I'd say I've just been......Gotta love it!
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    zinjaj:

    I largely agree with your assessment. Ethereal cyber beings insulting other ethereal cyber beings. The only'victims' are those who revel in being victims by participating in the exercise in the first place. There are tens of thosands of forums with millions of topics. Why continue to 'click' on the same types of threads by known antagonists just to put oneself in confrontation. The irony is we're often at loggerheads with 'images' we've concocted. We become emotionally invested in a make believe world. It's good to step back now and then and laugh at the whole exercise (and laugh at our ourselves).
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