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    I was quite surprised to read recently an adult sufferer of ADHD detail his 'unique' set of difficulties'.I found myself ticking them all off and saying 'yes I do that, that's me' etc.

    I though am not ADHD but perhaps if I was unduly concerned about my many 'idiosyncracities' and went to see a specialist I may well be. I admit I have been concerned about some of my 'things' over the years but I have adapted around them.

    But for the benefit of the ADHD sufferers out there, I thought I would list a few of my 'things' and reassure you that I live a perfectly functional happy life, despite them!

    Perhaps others would contribute with details of their 'things' so we can all revel in the joy of being abnormally normal!

    So here are my 'things'.

    • Very poor long-term memory and short-term memory - I struggle to recall what I did and where I was two days ago.

      I rarely know what the date is, without checking a calendar

      I can never remember the name of films I have seen at the cinema, book titles I have read, lyrics for songs- forget it!

      I can't recall names of roads, names of restaurants I have visited

      Can recall very little of what was learned at school, though I did well in exams due to my 'strengths', which I'll go into later!

      Zero sense of direction and this includes finding my way out of a building (NO exageration). I can get lost frequently even when walking a regular route. I can't recall my own mobile number. I cannot remember the addresses I lived at just 5yrs ago. Not even a road name let alone house number.

      I whistle and hum when shopping. I like to do it, but some may think this 'odd'.

      I bounce around at bustops..dancing. I am actually quite entertaining to be around.

      I rarely but have had shock like 'jumps' and if I am holding something at the time I drop or worse throw it. I have no control over it. It's similar to the jump you may have when falling asleep, but I get them occassionally when wide awake.

      I did (as a teenager) arrive at a destination while driving with no knowledge of the journey I took. I went a familiar route but it was not always the one I was intending to go!


    I sleep for no more than 4-5hrs a night and rarely in one stretch. I wake up frequently.

    I daydream a lot.

    I could go on and on with this list!

    Now my strengths:

    Excellent problem solving ability. I can see all the possible solutions within a second while others seem to require hours or worse days to mull it over. This is a problem in itself though as people do not believe I have properly considered the problem! It also causes great frustration in me while I have to wait for the rest (if working in a team) to reach the same conclusion.

    I can memorize huge chunks of info (for short term use - as I forget if it is nolonger required) speed read, organize, multi task and so on.

    I am sociable.

    I consider myself eccentric and love my idiosyncracities.

    I have never considered myself 'normal' but that was in a 'nice' sense not a negative/defective sense.

    I have no label and will carry on as I always have.

    I say celebrate your strengths and learn to adapt to those weaknesses.

    So what are your 'things'?


    Oh and I definately talk too much!


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    Update: An interesting link I just found

    Adult ADD / ADHD: Recognizing the Symptoms and Managing the Effects
    http://www.helpguide.org/mental/adhd...t_symptoms.htm

    The symptoms of adult ADHD as mentioned in this link describe MOST of the intelligent people I know (inlcluding myself) SO, one has to ask WHY the health/government/pharmaceutical industry is keen to convince and MEDICATE normal intelligent human beings that they are defective?



    If there are less intelligent people on this planet than intelligent, then yes intelligence is abnormal as 'normal' is what the majority is. Bloody Hell fire. Who is charge of this labelling crap? Not someone intelligent clearly!


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    Wow you have a poor memory. even so I think it may be due to you having little interest in the things you speak of.

    My problem is names. I can remember how to differentiate sine, but I usually dont remember someones name, because I cant be bothered with such trivialities when "mate" will work, I guess.

    I cant see that you have ADD, as thats not a memory disfunction, is it not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostofMaxwell
    Wow you have a poor memory. even so I think it may be due to you having little interest in the things you speak of.

    My problem is names. I can remember how to differentiate sine, but I usually dont remember someones name, because I cant be bothered with such trivialities when "mate" will work, I guess.

    I cant see that you have ADD, as thats not a memory disfunction, is it not?
    This is partly correct but not fully. I would love to be able to recall with ease what I did two days ago. I just can't.

    I have done many jobs and I learned a great deal of info to do them, but now it's all gone as I don't require it. I learned a great deal of arabic and now that's all gone too. I can only recall it for as long as I need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity

    I have done many jobs and I learned a great deal of info to do them, but now it's all gone as I don't require it. I learned a great deal of arabic and now that's all gone too. I can only recall it for as long as I need it.
    ADD says you dont take it in, to start with. It says nothing about forgetting what you have already taken in .
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostofMaxwell
    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity

    I have done many jobs and I learned a great deal of info to do them, but now it's all gone as I don't require it. I learned a great deal of arabic and now that's all gone too. I can only recall it for as long as I need it.
    ADD says you dont take it in, to start with. It says nothing about forgetting what you have already taken in .
    I never once said I had ADD

    ADD being a 'rebrand' of 'Type A' personality as far as I can tell!

    I was listing my many 'things' to illustate that we all have 'things' and labels and drugs are not neccessary. Some of my 'things' are compatible with the things identified as being ADD, and identified with being a human.

    I guess you missed the point again right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostofMaxwell
    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity

    I have done many jobs and I learned a great deal of info to do them, but now it's all gone as I don't require it. I learned a great deal of arabic and now that's all gone too. I can only recall it for as long as I need it.
    ADD says you dont take it in, to start with. It says nothing about forgetting what you have already taken in .
    Meanwhile they are now saying Einstein and Churchill were ADD too, wot a load of bollocks it all is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    I guess you missed the point again right?
    Maybe you didnt listen to my point again ToR. You get something in your head and no matter how someone tries to explain "the nature of the beast" to you, you dont listen to a word of it.


    ToR you have SSD - surplus stubbornness disorder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostofMaxwell
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    I guess you missed the point again right?
    Maybe you didnt listen to my point again ToR. You get something in your head and no matter how someone tries to explain "the nature of the beast" to you, you dont listen to a word of it.


    ToR you have SSD - surplus stubbornness disorder.
    You haven't explained anything, you've argued against my being ADD. I never said I was ADD. So your arguments were irrelevant.

    This thread is to invite people to discuss their 'things' so we can all realise how fabulously abnormally normal we are. So YES you did miss the point as you mentioned only that you are crap with names, which most people uneducated in the importance of social etiquette are.
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    If you mean I dont go around hugging and kissing and saying everyones name with glee as we meet. Then no, I am not a gay.

    I of course, do know the names of my friends and family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostofMaxwell
    If you mean I dont go around hugging a kissing and saying everyones name with glee as we meet. Then no, I am not a gay.

    I of course, do know the names of my friends and family.
    This response (immature) demonstates the fact you are indeed uneducated in social etiquette.

    So here is a short lesson:

    Names are hugely important to their owners and they will hold in higher regard those who can remember theirs. So Name recollection is a must when it comes to networking and getting ahead.
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    Shut up!

    You are uneducated in just about everything , and you want to give me lessons?
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    Well you asked for immature.

    Come on though, Im a geezer from Essex and you want social etiquette?
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    A cure for ADHD: "Shut up or I'll pop you in the mouth again". --South Park

    ADHD is nothing more than personality traits that a person has picked p throughout their life and has too big an ego to get rid of them. People do amazing things to feel special.

    Now don't get too worked up. Most people want to kill me after saying that so just know that I'm used to it and know that any anger or other feelings will do nothing but strengthen that ego.

    They say ADHD is do to a chemical imbalance in the brain. Maybe they never stopped to think what may have caused that chemical imbalance.... but hey then they would make money of those yummy pills.

    Anyways, when I was younger I had all sorts of traits. Tapping things all the time, whether it be my feet or hands. I rarely did homework and when I tried it only lasted a few minutes before I was back to something "fun". Thus my grades weren't so great. I couldn't manage to do many tasks for very long without losing my focus.

    However I seemed to have one strength that not many are blessed with (and I am very thankful my parents weren't cruel enough to put me on any drugs). That strength was the ability to recognize my own weaknesses and to do something about them. I am still living with my parents while I finish some more schooling and sometimes they get annoyed at my discipline. The strange thing is, the discipline is completely self taught.

    I saw all these problems other people had. Such as ADD or ADHD and other things such as likes and dislikes. I thought to myself "this is sad, I don't have to abide by these petty rules of individuality". Now I have no ADHD, I love all food (ever tried a hundred year old egg, yummm), I listen too all music, I have no allergies, and I'm still working on riding myself of more random pointless issues.

    Now your thinking what does all that have to do with ADHD. I am simply trying to explain how ADHD like most anything is all in the mind and can be tamed if, and only if, you want to. Then again it's probably best to ignore this. Most do. In fact, I think I promised myself last time I made this argument that I would not do so again. Maybe my ADHD caused me to forget that promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBOB

    Now your thinking what does all that have to do with ADHD. I am simply trying to explain how ADHD like most anything is all in the mind and can be tamed if, and only if, you want to. Then again it's probably best to ignore this. Most do. In fact, I think I promised myself last time I made this argument that I would not do so again. Maybe my ADHD caused me to forget that promise.

    Great post thank you
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    OK you have ADD.

    Does that make you happier?


    What the hell else do you want people to say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostofMaxwell
    OK you have ADD.

    Does that make you happier?


    What the hell else do you want people to say?
    the replies on other forums tend to go something like this,

    GM. Maybe it's a scientist thing that grasping 'simple' things becomes hard, as my original post was totally understood everywhere else it was posted.

    I am not ADD, that's the point. Is anyone?.

    ADD seems to me to be a bunch of 'characteristics' that every human has on the planet to some greater or lesser degree.

    The greater degree are the doers, shakers and movers of this world and we're drugging them!
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    We are not drugging the geniuses of this world, we are using medication to help those who are struggling with the basics because they have a diminished attention span.

    Einstein would very unlikely be one of those today because he obviously overcome the deficit himself(if your claim about him is true, which I think you have most probably been embroidered, knowing you and your sources ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    Quote Originally Posted by GhostofMaxwell
    OK you have ADD.

    Does that make you happier?


    What the hell else do you want people to say?
    the replies on other forums tend to go something like this,

    GM. Maybe it's a scientist thing that grasping 'simple' things becomes hard, as my original post was totally understood everywhere else it was posted.

    !
    Maybe its because you went to a dumbass forum where they didnt understand the nature-of-the beast(as you do not, when you shoot it down), so just told you what you wanted to hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostofMaxwell
    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    Quote Originally Posted by GhostofMaxwell
    OK you have ADD.

    Does that make you happier?


    What the hell else do you want people to say?
    GM. Maybe it's a scientist thing that grasping 'simple' things becomes hard, as my original post was totally understood everywhere else it was posted.

    !
    Maybe its because you went to a dumbass forum where they didnt understand the nature-of-the beast(as you do not, when you shoot it down), so just told you what you wanted to hear.
    your lack of comprehension defies belief. I never said they agreed did I? My post never enlisted agreement or debate. merely a contribution re 'things'. But you wouldn't know that would you as you don't GET ANYTHING!

    Don't reply to my threads in future, it's pointless. it's like trying to explain colour to a blind person.
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    On the contrary, I comprehend your ignorance to the success of modern medicine, based on a few sensationalized nitpicks, all too well.

    This is a science forum, if you post your ignorance to modern treatment methods, I have a right to reply.
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    I too have many little idiosyncrasies, many of which you listed.

    I'm terrible with names, dates, times.

    I run on my own time schedule and feel that it's the proper one.

    I also hum and click while roaming around stores and such and when i get excited i dance around.

    I fidget a lot too, if something has a chip in it, I'll pick it until it's all gone or even or perfect again.

    and I agree that it doesn't mean people should be medicated or diagnosed with some "disorder". Does modern medication really help or does it just sort of numb? I believe it can be helpful in some instances, but in general, I believe society is over-medicated and over-diagnosed. That I believe comes down to money...but that's another story.

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    and I agree that it doesn't mean people should be medicated or diagnosed with some "disorder". Does modern medication really help or does it just sort of numb? I believe it can be helpful in some instances, but in general, I believe society is over-medicated and over-diagnosed. That I believe comes down to money...but that's another story.
    I agree with you both. I Have trouble recalling things. I know a vast array of actor names and faces, but often find myself unable to utter the name of the most famous ones. When I was jounger, I used to have some obsessive compulsive tendencies, like having to touch all the paintings/dressers/flat surface in a room when leaving. I used to have to step over cracks on the ground and in the middle of tiles etc. In school I didn't do badly, but not close to my potential, as I had no affinity to the uninteresting subjects. But the one thing I can do is concentrate without end. I'll easily spend the entire night until morning making minute adjustments to something I am trying to tweek or fix. Most of the time it pays off, as I get it right eventually and learn something about the problem. I have also adjusted to not being a people person to any degree, by using humor and popular frazes to survive everyday life. I much prefer keeping to myself. And I find 99% of people I have contact with entrenched in banality and naivity. Unusual = interesting!

    PS: also NO sense of direction
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER
    I'll easily spend the entire night until morning making minute adjustments to something I am trying to tweek or fix. Most of the time it pays off, as I get it right eventually and learn something about the problem. I have also adjusted to not being a people person to any degree, by using humor and popular frazes to survive everyday life. I much prefer keeping to myself. And I find 99% of people I have contact with entrenched in banality and naivity.
    i stay up all night sometimes to paint and mull things over. I rather enjoy it, but it can be bothersome to others i've found. i also like to keep to myself most of the time. I just try to be personable to keep a job lol.
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    Well I'm bad with names, dates, getting school work in on time, mostly because I forget about it, until Like 5 mins before.

    Things that I think are below me, are instantly forgotten, this holds true especially with homework.. Some I do, like papers, because I love to write, but "busy work" is instantly forgotten

    I am overly fidgety and some call abnormal. I've been described as "an old shoe" because I am practically friends with everyone, except pompous asses, whom I constantly degrade. And because I stand 6'2" 210lbs Nobody messes with me. If I was smaller my face would have been punched in many a times. Maybe its because I get in fights all the time too......:/

    I enjoy dancing randomly too. I also always talk to myself.

    I find to remember someone's name, just rhyme it with something funny, it almost never fails me.

    I think meds are too widely used, for what I think are simply personality quirks. I've been noticing a trend, of people who enjoy education, in a science forum. Maybe Genius has its own set of personality quirks.
    Why is hate so ingrained in humans? For the supposed enlightened species we are very limited to such primitive behaviors. Peace is a fleeting in our society.
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    Great contributions of abnormally normal behaviour, thanks all.
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