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  1. #1 Ketamine Chemical 
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    Good evening.

    What is the difference between regular Ketamine and specifically:
    (+)Ketamin-d3 HCL 010GFL analytical grade

    Is it stronger?
    What is it’s purpose in this format?
    Does it contribute to a finished product or is it literally as is with no purpose?

    Thank you for your time.
    Matt.


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    It is basically the same drug. The (+) just tells you which enatiomer it is, the d3 tells you it is isotopically labelled with a D atom on carbon 3 (presumably to follow its breakdown products). The HCl tells you it is the hydrochloride salt of ketamine. Drugs are often made into salts to increase their solubility in body fluids (ketamine itself is insoluble and would not enter the bloodstream). The series of numbers and letters at the end will be specific to the manufacturer and will correspond to a purity level or manufacturing tolerance.


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    would this type of analytical grade material be any sort of pre cursor,
    the amount is only 10mg but i saw it for at least a 600 price ticket?
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    The high price is probably due to the d3 isotopic labelling. This doesn't change how the drug works but makes it easier to follow its breakdown products. The drug without the d3 labelling will act the same on the body but be much cheaper.
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    How would you break this product down?
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    This type of labelled drug is used to give to animals or perform chemical reactions on, by analysing the products and seeing in which part the D atom is you can get information about how the drug is broken down in the body or a chemical mechanism.
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    does that mean the 10mg is literally all it gets or does this type have more with reactions to extract into its 'normal' format?

    sorry if these are stupid questions btw
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    If the price quoted is for 10mg that is all you'll get...
    If you want the "normal" drug, just buy that, it will be much cheaper! Removing the isotopic labelling would involve a lot of tedious chemistry, converting the drug into something else and then converting it back without the D atom, you would probably lose most of it due to side reactions in the process.

    Why are you interested in buying this if you don't know what it is or what it's for?
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    always curious to find new things out i guess is why im considering a purchase,
    Im new to the subject but have a fair bit of knowledge just wanting to expand

    it just baffled me that 10mg was 600+ to buy when like you say the regular formulas are definitely cheaper and more substance in what you buy lol
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