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  1. #1 Are we Psychic? 
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    Yes another one of DaBOB's crazy nonsense topics. You know you like it. :wink:

    So I wanted to ask about this because it has been happening more and more to me recently.

    I was in the parkinglot at work the ther day and was on my bicycle. I was behind a pickup truck and for no reason at all thought about one of our dessert vendors who had been gone for a few months and wondered when he'd be back. That night he showed up with a load of cakes.

    Today I was humming a song to myself and saw a pile of mail on the table. I picked up a post card (the picture was facing down) and as I turned it around to see the picture I began the next line of the song I was humming which happened to be a very close and ironic description of the picture. ("Ivory Madonna" The picture was a Madonna with very noticable white teath from the dentist)

    These are just two events in the last couple of days. I notice this stuff all the time and was curious as to whether or not anyone else experiances things like this.

    If you want to offer any explanations than please do. Although I'm pretty sure I already know them (literally, not psychically... I think). :?


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    I was thinking about the wife just now just as she bought me in a cup of tea.. coincidence methinks. However I do have one experience that has always baffled me. I wos working on some kit and felt compelled to move away from it, as I did, part of it exploded - had it been through any sense such as smell, hearing or sight I am sure I would have remembered.


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    I too have had similar instances. But I think it's all coincidence.

    Of all the minute things that happen in a typical day, almost none of them warrant any psychic enquiry. That is, we think about "Bob" and he doesn't show up the next day. But the few that occur in a typical year are the things we tend to remember.

    It's like the lottery I think. On a typical week, millions of people may buy a lottery ticket. In fact, I can hardly ever buy gas without having to wait for the sucker in front of me to pick out his winning ticket.

    Of all those people that play the lottery, almost none win. But every week it seems, someone, somewhere, does win.

    Of all the crazy little things that happen in our typical day, most are the losing lottery ticket, and those are the things that don't warrant any psychic enquiry. But a few times a year, we "win the lottery."

    I think it's coincidence, just like the lottery is.

    But... if someone, somewhere, has these clairvoyant visions several times a day, several days a week, and most weeks out of the year... then perhaps there is something going on...? But I've never heard of any credible case of such clairvoyance.

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    I have heard a theory that De ja vue? is thought to be a 'phase error' in the brain that is, where the informationd travels through two separate pathways but arrives at the same destination, it makes some sense.
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    Interesting.

    Deja vu is also the name of some nice topless bars in the U.S. Google it.
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    No thanks, I prefer to drink in bars with a roof, I live in England

    THis is not the one I read years ago when it was first proposed but a quick google produced this..

    http://mb-soft.com/public/dejavu.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
    However I do have one experience that has always baffled me. I wos working on some kit and felt compelled to move away from it, as I did, part of it exploded - had it been through any sense such as smell, hearing or sight I am sure I would have remembered.
    I've heard more examples like this: a firefighter is at work in a burning building, but suddenly distrusts the situation for no reason (the fire seemed under control) and orders his men out. Minutes later some lethal gas spreads through the building which would've killed everyone inside.

    This can often be explained by unconscious recognition of signals, as it usually happens to experienced professionals. They've been in a similar situation before, or heard of one like it, and while the person doesn't notice anything consciously the brain is probing the memory to see what happened last time in such conditions. Even if the brain can't exactly reproduce what happened last time, you can still get negative associations and a feeling of distrust. Just like when you think something nice is going to happen without really understanding it yet, you just get a vague positive feeling.
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    I can discount the previous experience similarity, It was my first year or so in industry, the 'kit' was a 10Killowatt radio transmitter I was setting up for some power tests I think it was only the third or fourth off the production line, had it happened later in life then I'd agree with you. I am not a believer in any form of paranormal stuff, The component that failed was a huge power capacitor about 1 cubic foot in size. I had never really thought about this in the intervening years but I think I may now have an explanation that may have some basis in fact.

    The test was a simulated morse code transmission at about 30 words per minute - that's around 150 letters at an average of 3.5 bits each, this would have pulsed the powersupply at around a frequency of 8-10Hz this is below the conscious human hearing range but if the amplitude of this signal begain to increase as the capacitor began to fail, (the Power supply would certainly accentuate the signal) well, who knows whether we can subconsciously hear such things, certainly animals are thought to run from natural disasters just prior to them happening. If my sub-conscious did pick up the sudden increase in energy prior to the Cap spraying hot oil everywhere then my particular mystery may have been solved, it was this thread that prompted me to re-visit this and possibly solve it.

    I guess I could test this hypothesis by arranging a party setting up some speakers with a continous background sub sonic frequency then after a while turn the volume up, and watch for any reaction, snag is the house could collapse or I could have 300 gallons of puke to clean up....
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    You know what im going to say, so i won't say any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat1981(England)
    You know what im going to say, so i won't say any more.
    I voted NO so I don't!
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    haha, it's been a few days since I have been on. It's interesting to think of what could cause such things. It's like when someone is looking at you from behind and you just know it without even seeing them. I work with alot of constumers and it's interesting to observe how two people will look at eachother at the exact same time. Sometimes it just seems to unlikely to be coincidence. I like to think it is nature at work. We are all in these rhythms and all have the same basic parts. Like twins knowing when one another are in trouble. Maybe there is some entanglement of paths going on that leads us to ends that seem too perfect.

    Today I had the day off but someone called in sick so I went to work and it just so happened that an old friend who was stopping by the area (she lives in another state) for a day or two was shopping at my store. I would never had seen her if our other worker had not been sick. Strange. Maybe it doesn't matter.
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    Ever been in a room when it all goes quiet? - everybody stops talking at the same time? - it's pure coincidence, nothing more.
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    The thread asks: Are we psychic?

    Do we have to ask?
    All that belongs to human understanding, in this deep ignorance and obscurity, is to be skeptical, or at least cautious; and not to admit of any hypothesis, whatsoever; much less, of any which is supported by no appearance of probability...Hume
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    Speaking of explosions. For some reason a couple hundred thousand Iraqis haven't had a psychic warning experience before ... It was just another regular day at Hiroshima, the birds were singing and...

    As for actual psychic energy to move objects. One would think that the collective psychic will in stadium of 150,000 insane Brazilians would stop the ball in midair, turn it around and wham..GOAL!!!!! Score: 100 to nil.
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    UNfortunately though Maradonna played for Argentina...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
    UNfortunately though Maradonna played for Argentina...
    I thought this was about psychics, not psychos.

    Remember the 'hand of God' goal scored by Maradonna against England in Mexico '86. I think the referee at that time had a premonition when his sphincter tightened up and thus the goal stood.

    Premonitions are what...warnings? They can be actual scenes of an event..is that a correct assumption? A premonition is only a warning if, the event you sensed was about to happen, actually occurs. If the event never occurs then that should invalidate a premonition, no?
    All that belongs to human understanding, in this deep ignorance and obscurity, is to be skeptical, or at least cautious; and not to admit of any hypothesis, whatsoever; much less, of any which is supported by no appearance of probability...Hume
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    I would prefer we not speak of "psychic energy". It is a term with no meaning.

    Someone other than me voted yes. If I really am psychic than I should know who, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
    UNfortunately though Maradonna played for Argentina...
    I thought this was about psychics, not psychos.
    Prize for best line of the week.
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    He should have said "I thought this was about Psychics not PsyKicks" then he might have got the prize, so it's a rollover...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBOB
    Someone other than me voted yes. If I really am psychic than I should know who, right?
    Good point. So that eliminates you and the other affirmative from the psychic talent pool. Or does it?

    Your question was: Are We Psychic? If you don't know enough to ask then there is no other answer except 'no'. The 'we' in your question indicates the whole of humanity or else you would have asked: Am I the only person not psychic?

    You voted yes. Did the other guy vote yes because his/hers psychic power told them you voted yes? Since you asked the question and the term 'we' is meaningless without you then what do we have? At least one psychic? According to the question you're not psychic even if you change your answer. :wink: :wink:
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    we are not phsychic and no one is. the one who claims to be it shall take that prize of 1 million dollar if he/she doesnt its a confession he/she is lieing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelos
    we are not phsychic and no one is. the one who claims to be it shall take that prize of 1 million dollar if he/she doesnt its a confession he/she is lieing
    We take it that's a no then Zelos?
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    Zelos may have posted that but i think secretly he voted 'yes'.
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    Well I think he must be psychic; after all, he knows that no one else is. :wink:
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    My grandfather and I had a conversation about psychics, and particularly seeing into the future (I'd had a dream which seemed like a premonition) anyway, he told me about a theory which, very simply, says this:

    Time is a river which we are looking into. Most of the time we look at the part which is directly in front of us- the present. We also look down river, into our past, and sometimes we can catch a glimpse of the future, when we accidentally see the river a little furthur on.

    My grandfather and I concluded that premonitions aren't possible, since we think we have sufficient free will to change the future at any given moment. Now please excuse me, I need to consult my guide for help with my maths... 8)
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    Quote Originally Posted by elsie
    My grandfather and I concluded that premonitions aren't possible, since we think we have sufficient free will to change the future at any given moment.
    Ahh, but how would we be changing the future if it has not already been "written"? I have a quote I got from a computer game a while back that I loved: "We are created by fate just as we create it." (or something like that). It is like quantum entanglement. What we do causes a set of possibilities while canceling others.

    e.i. When you roll a marble and then put something in front of it, it is no longer possible for the marble to pass into that area. You aren't even touching the marble but you are effecting it's fate.

    At the same time we have the ability (which the marble doesn't) to shange our course whenever we feel like it. But, remember that the course change would never occure if it weren't for the previous one. Therefore it is like fate.

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    I don't remember you making an introduction thread. Welcome elsie
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBOB
    ...It's like when someone is looking at you from behind and you just know it without even seeing them....
    I always thought about things like this, but I think I came up with an explanation that works for me. If you ever sit in a completely quiet room, and listen to the silence (no I'm not crazy, I was doing homework!), if someone walks into the doorway without making a sound you'll notice the ambient noice changes. Now my thought is it's not that the noise change goes away when it's louder, it's just that instead of consciously hearing it, it's more of a feeling when your thoughts are elsewhere.
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    I understand what you mean Kabooom, and it makes sense to me- I've noticed that I hear that change in a quiet room, so I could also notice in a noisy one...

    Ahh, but how would we be changing the future if it has not already been "written"? I have a quote I got from a computer game a while back that I loved: "We are created by fate just as we create it." (or something like that). It is like quantum entanglement. What we do causes a set of possibilities while canceling others.

    e.i. When you roll a marble and then put something in front of it, it is no longer possible for the marble to pass into that area. You aren't even touching the marble but you are effecting it's fate.

    At the same time we have the ability (which the marble doesn't) to shange our course whenever we feel like it. But, remember that the course change would never occure if it weren't for the previous one. Therefore it is like fate.
    When we read 'Of Mice and Men' at school, we had a discussion about fate, and I will admit that I did say that some major events in our life are likely to be predetermined, but I have never considered the changing possibilities resulting from actions that we make the rest of the time. I like that idea, mind if I use it sometime? :wink:
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    'Tis an old idea that I myself have adopted. Do what you want with it. :wink:

    Plus the more you use it the better you understand it.
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