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    After reading something Megabrain wrote about colour being written with a 'u' here in the UK, I was just wondering how the Americans can spell Laser with a 'z'? Laser stands for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation but the Americans spell it as Lazer


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevyn
    After reading something Megabrain wrote about colour being written with a 'u' here in the UK, I was just wondering how the Americans can spell Laser with a 'z'? Laser stands for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation but the Americans spell it as Lazer
    Lazer. Light Amplification by Zimulated Emission of Radiation.
    I've never seen that written that way. Not even in the American texts.


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    hmm, well that's how they write it, they also spell sulphur with an 'f' sulfur
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    I Think the spelling of LAZER is more a bout company names trade marks, products etc. IBM documentation (to my memory always spelt it with an 's' - I'd have noticed if it didn't!).

    Sulphur is different, I never have liked 'ph' pronounced as 'f' - sounds phucking ridiculous!

    Anyone who replaces ph with f in an English speaking country can't be all that bad!
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    Yes and the Americans spell "Aluminum" where as us Brits use "Aluminium".

    Actually, the yanks are right on that one !! Their spelling is correct !
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    Sorry Nev, but your wrong on both counts. We spell laser with an s...MB is correct, the only time I've ever seen it with a "z" is for a product name.
    We also spell sulphur (at least here in Texas) with a "ph"...(google sulphur river in Texas)
    Although some do spell it with an "f"...my spell-checker just told me I spelled it wrong and offered "sulfur" as the correct spelling.
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    I most certainly am not wrong

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulphur#Spelling
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    I spell it sulfur. But you Brits do say somethings weird (as do we Americans I'm sure). Zebra crossing, for example, is crosswalk in America.

    And just out of curiosity, many other languages have different pronouns for formal and familiar you. In spanish its usted and tu. English used to have this, but it no longer does. Anyone know why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevyn
    the Americans spell it as Lazer
    I was just wondering where you got your information? Could you please provide examples.
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    around and about:

    http://ph.answers.yahoo.com/rss/ques...5020324AAaArRC

    second comment:

    http://www.audiotoolers.com/ubbt/ubb...er/6286/page/1

    when googled the spelling of Lazer with American spelling:

    http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:...n_misspellings

    Just to be curious, i was wondering how you spell the word for child molesters. i shall not spell it because this would bias it but it begins with 'p'. please don't look it up because i want it to be fair.
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    The correct spelling (for people in the UK) is Pervert

    Are you still trying to assert that the Americans spell Laser with a 'z' ?

    If so you are wrong!
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    from your first example:

    English was invented in England and not America. They have bastardised our language to tailor their own needs. Stick with the 's'. The spell function is probably American so it won't help you.
    Laser (Eng) Lazer (US)
    Razor (Eng) Razer (US)
    This is a comment by a British person claiming to know how Americans spell. It is not an example of an American using that spelling. We also don't spell razor with an e, as he contends.

    Your second example is of another British person misspelling the word, and another Brit correcting him, claiming that is the American spelling....again, not an example of an American using a "Z"

    Your 3rd example is just a list of commonly misspelled words, again...not an example of "lazer" being the standard American spelling.

    I'm an American who has worked for one of the largest laser manufacturers in the world. I think I would know how we spell the word.
    Just admit it dude...you were wrong.

    Many words can be spelled in different ways..but there is only one correct spelling for laser. If you want to make Americans look stupid, at least pick something that's true...lord knows there's plenty of material for that.

    Hmmm...a word for child molesters that begins with a "P"....would that be "Priest" ?
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    As a Brit I am proud that we have at least given something to the Americans (even though they have not yet paid us for it) - but don't think that the English Language is 'ours' it aint, it'a a mixture of French, Latin, German, Spanish, Dutch etc etc. It has evolved over several millenia only really becoming 'standard' after mass printing appeared.

    If you want to look at people as being stupid then look no further than ourselves, - Instead of shipping convicts to exotic far off places filled with gold, silver, diamonds, sunshine, fresh fruit, tasty food, millions of square miles of territory excellent weather, nice beaches and bars well think about it, dont you think it would have been better to leave them on a cold wet, damp, windy, bleak, tiny little is;land off the coast of Europe?

    The only brits I know who slag off the Americans do it solely through jealosy, think about it, where would almost everone like to emigrate to ? - Australia or the US, unless they want a free meal ticket then they come here.
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    English i just an evolved state of Latin, as is French and German and several other languages.
    As a Brit I am proud that we have at least given something to the Americans
    at least something? we have given them everything from the names of cities to the movable tails on planes, and then they have the gall to claim that they did it first. i watched a program about it a while ago and the list was quite extensive.
    And as to the emmigrating bit, i wouldn't like to go anywhere near America. it's New Zealand for me
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    I get the slight impression you are [or may be] 'anti-american'. Who gives a shit about who invented what anyway? - we're all one people dammit, there's only 1 human race.

    You might want to look at our own government's failure to recognise British inventions/dicoveries, many inventors were forced to go abroad, Chris Cockeral (Hovercraft), Frank Whittle (Jet engine), Alexander flemming (penicillin), Watson Watt (Radar/Magnetron), and a host of others if I had the time.
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    Rubbish, i was born in Australia, have the passport, i may go over there for a holiday but i always come back. Many more Australians emigrate here (UK) then move the other way. The problem with the British, is that the old folk are always putting our country down. Britain is a great country, the most beautiful countryside in the world, London being the most amazing city and by far the popular city destination in the world, a land were anything is possible. And i write all of this sitting in the beautiful, warm spring sunshine, much better then the last time i was in the Melbourne spring, with drizzling rain and only 5c.

    But what does any of that matter anyway, we are the rugby world champions. :-D
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    I can't fault you for saying your country is the best in the world, everybody else does, but one or two of us oldies have been around a few other countries and have a much wider, and more balanced view, If it's so bloody good why are we somewhere down the bottom in the international league tables.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat1981(England)
    Rubbish, i was born in Australia, have the passport, i may go over there for a holiday but i always come back. Many more Australians emigrate here (UK) then move the other way. The problem with the British, is that the old folk are always putting our country down. Britain is a great country, the most beautiful countryside in the world, London being the most amazing city and by far the popular city destination in the world, a land were anything is possible. And i write all of this sitting in the beautiful, warm spring sunshine, much better then the last time i was in the Melbourne spring, with drizzling rain and only 5c.

    But what does any of that matter anyway, we are the rugby world champions. :-D
    I love the Australian flag, especially the top left hand corner. :wink:
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    Hi Nevyn,
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    A word starting with p meaning a child molester: I would say pederast except nobody in the USA uses that word. Pervert, maybe? No, wait. Pedophile is the word you were looking for.
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    Jamaican English is an excellent balance between British and American English.
    (Though our 'patois' really butchered the English language )

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaican_English
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    Jamaican English or Jamaican Standard English is a dialect of English encompassing in a unique way, parts and mergers of both American English and British English dialects. Typically it uses British English spellings but does not reject American English spellings.[1]
    Not many move to JA, though (many Jamaicans emigrate to England and America, though mostly to England)...we've hardly anything to boast but our rich culture and beautiful land.
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    ^^^^ And some wonderful cricketers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370
    A word starting with p meaning a child molester: I would say pederast except nobody in the USA uses that word. Pervert, maybe? No, wait. Pedophile is the word you were looking for.
    Pedophile means Foot-lover, a common misconception among Americans
    Peadophile means Child-lover
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    I think you mean "podophilia" as the term for foot fetish

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podophilia

    Pedophilia, or Paedophilia is the carnal love of children

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
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    I have been told by numerous speakers of Latin that Pedophile means Foot-lover, We all know that Wiki has a tendancy for 'mistakes'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
    ... it'a a mixture of French, Latin, German, Spanish, Dutch etc etc.
    out of curiosity - what words in the english language are derived from dutch ? (i must declare a vested interest here - i'm flemish)
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
    ... it'a a mixture of French, Latin, German, Spanish, Dutch etc etc.
    out of curiosity - what words in the english language are derived from dutch ? (i must declare a vested interest here - i'm flemish)
    I am not sure. That's where the saxons came from i think so it might be more of the northern language it affects
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    True...wiki is known for making mistakes....how about a more reliable source ..like Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary:

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pedophile
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    While we are nitpicking, pedophile (or paedophile if you prefer to spell it that way) is not a synonym for child molester. Not all persons sexually attracted to children will necessarily molest children.
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