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    He is the "Father of all Sciences"!


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    Quote Originally Posted by MdShafiqM View Post
    He is the "Father of all Sciences"!
    Nope.
    Examples.

    Edit: da Vinci wasn't a "sir".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MdShafiqM View Post
    He is the "Father of all Sciences"!
    Nope.
    Examples.
    Mothers are getting a bad rap. Thread killed but let me try to revive it.......

    Refuting the OP in combination with your list got me to wondering as to what might have been the first intentional or deliberate scientific experiment performed by Homo sapiens for each branch of science? Also....What scientific discipline would be the front runner for a first time experiment and what might it have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MdShafiqM View Post
    He is the "Father of all Sciences"!
    Nope.
    Examples.
    Mothers are getting a bad rap. Thread killed but let me try to revive it.......

    Refuting the OP in combination with your list got me to wondering as to what might have been the first intentional or deliberate scientific experiment performed by Homo sapiens for each branch of science? Also....What scientific discipline would be the front runner for a first time experiment and what might it have been.
    Telling someone to do something and peeking to see if they did what they were told?
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    I was thinking somewhere along the lines of fire and water. The observant creatures we are may have had us wondering what floats, or the effects of heat on certain things like food. Then again we might have needed to figure out how to keep from being killed before moving on to other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    or the effects of heat on certain things like food.
    I would imagine that among the first (if not the first) would have been "Is this safe to eat?" - even preceding cooking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    or the effects of heat on certain things like food.
    I would imagine that among the first (if not the first) would have been "Is this safe to eat?" - even preceding cooking.
    Do I have any volunteers for this experiment? Guinea pigs may have been the first lab test equipment.
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    The first experiment may have been to notice something (whatever it might have been) and trying it again to see if the same thing happened.
    He or she would have been the "Father of All Sciences"
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    The first experiment may have been to notice something (whatever it might have been) and trying it again to see if the same thing happened.
    Hmm, Ugg didn't come out of that cave, and Igg didn't after I sent him to find Ugg... Yo! Ogg - go see what's in that cave will you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Hmm, Ugg didn't come out of that cave, and Igg didn't after I sent him to find Ugg... Yo! Ogg - go see what's in that cave will you?
    Sounds like a research supervisor! Get someone else to do the crap (or dangerous) job!
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    Fire dynamics, if rain can extinguish then what happens if I dip burning stick into river?

    Ugg & Igg, researchers. They get no credit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    Sounds like a research supervisor! Get someone else to do the crap (or dangerous) job!
    That sort of thing probably prompted more inventions:
    Onk takes a quick look at the rapidly dwindling number of people available for cave-checking and pipes up - "Hey boss! I just invented writing, I'll stay here and take notes so that we can pass the knowledge on to future generations".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Sounds like a research supervisor! Get someone else to do the crap (or dangerous) job!
    That sort of thing probably prompted more inventions:
    Onk takes a quick look at the rapidly dwindling number of people available for cave-checking and pipes up - "Hey boss! I just invented writing, I'll stay here and take notes so that we can pass the knowledge on to future generations".
    Peer review might have been difficult.
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    ^ Like.
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    I remember reading once where the human population was down to a few remaining cave dwellers on Africa's east coast, can you imagine if Dywyd's scenario had played out...we might have been the first species to have experimented themselves to extinction.

    Would also be great to know what kind of experiments were performed for some of our greatest inventions (ie wheel) where the inventor is unknown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    I remember reading once where the human population was down to a few remaining cave dwellers on Africa's east coast, can you imagine if Dywyd's scenario had played out...we might have been the first species to have experimented themselves to extinction.

    Would also be great to know what kind of experiments were performed for some of our greatest inventions (ie wheel) where the inventor is unknown.
    There were doing reenactments of ancient dilemmas up in the Orkneys** (to see how they transported large stones) and someone came up with the idea of throwing seaweed in front of the stone and giving it the old heave -ho with ropes and a team of haulers.. Seaweed is a natural lubricant.

    Round stones or pebbles would have also given a small advantage and bit by bit the information would be collated I guess.

    A bit like informational evolution before knowledge itself was maybe prized in its own right.

    **some important ancient settlements have been uncovered there fairly recently -to rival Stonehenge by all accounts
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    There were doing reenactments of ancient dilemmas up in the Orkneys** (to see how they transported large stones) and someone came up with the idea of throwing seaweed in front of the stone and giving it the old heave -ho with ropes and a team of haulers.. Seaweed is a natural lubricant.
    I remember seeing a documentary along those lines. I guess if one of your haulers collapses under the object being pulled then the value of lubrication would be evident. Might even behave like a log and roll a little bit. If you don't have enough haulers to grease the skids or roll with the flow then seaweed and logs would be a good substitute. All kidding aside, I like the idea of a humans hypothesizing re the use of naturally round objects (rocks, logs) for ease of transportation. Maybe we should give the guy who invented the axle more credit than the wheel maker.
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