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    Is there a generalization fallacy that is termed when someone conflates a group of peoples opinion and calls them out as hypocrites, for seemingly contradicting each other?

    Silly example of a random post I’d spotted in Facebook: “You lefties are all hypocrites. You say fat shaming is wrong but you have no problem making fun of Trumps weight!”

    I see this type of generalization in various forms on social media so just trying to pin down the name of the fallacy, if there is one?


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    An issue in science and the US media: hurricane Irma reportage | Sciforums

    Is that an example of the same "fallacy" in the opposite direction ?

    Limbaugh is reported to lambaste "Liberal alarmists" and yet evacuates along with all the others.

    Just cheap points we can all be guilty of?


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    Hi geordief

    I’m not familiar with Limbaugh as I only read about him briefly yesterday regarding his evacuation.

    I’ve been given it some more thought and think I’ve found close to what I’m looking for - “Argument from false premises.”
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ar...false_premises

    So if I say “All mainstream media is fake news”. The fallacies that I could point out on this statement are both generalisation and confirmation bias. Then the illogical conclusion drawn from this false premise might be “Climate change is fake” or “Smoking is good for your lungs”.
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    Here is an ongoing thread/game on the subject of logical fallacies (not my strong point)

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    I have a logical fallacy that I don't know how to categorize. It is "blinding with science" Suppose you have a weak interlocutor who cannot organize his or her thoughts in a rational fashion (but you can) it is easy (and unsatisfying) to "get the better" of the exchange even if the other person does actually have a poorly expressed point (all points are actually multi-layered in the real world)

    Maybe it is more like a syndrome or scenario than an actual fallacy ,but it is an opportunity for self deception.

    Related to "arguing from authority" ,perhaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    (all points are actually multi-layered in the real world).
    Does thie above not qualify?
    All that belongs to human understanding, in this deep ignorance and obscurity, is to be skeptical, or at least cautious; and not to admit of any hypothesis, whatsoever; much less, of any which is supported by no appearance of probability...Hume
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
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    (all points are actually multi-layered in the real world).
    Does thie above not qualify?
    Sorry,I don't quite get that. What is "the above"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
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    (all points are actually multi-layered in the real world).
    Does thie above not qualify?
    Sorry,I don't quite get that. What is "the above"?
    C'mon geo.....you mean "thie above" or do I need to repeat your last sentence, your last sentence, your last sentence........
    All that belongs to human understanding, in this deep ignorance and obscurity, is to be skeptical, or at least cautious; and not to admit of any hypothesis, whatsoever; much less, of any which is supported by no appearance of probability...Hume
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post



    C'mon geo.....you mean "thie above" or do I need to repeat your last sentence, your last sentence, your last sentence........

    Still not there... Are all layers multi pointed ?(except for Hamburgs)

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e4/c7...2796fb1488.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    Still not there... Are all layers multi pointed ?(except for Hamburgs)
    Dunno...if a guy's girlfriend has a couple of real good points, should he layer?
    All that belongs to human understanding, in this deep ignorance and obscurity, is to be skeptical, or at least cautious; and not to admit of any hypothesis, whatsoever; much less, of any which is supported by no appearance of probability...Hume
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
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    Still not there... Are all layers multi pointed ?(except for Hamburgs)
    Dunno...if a guy's girlfriend has a couple of real good points, should he layer?
    I think you might need a good lawyer

    Should convincing someone of a bad idea lead to prosecution?
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
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    Dunno...if a guy's girlfriend has a couple of real good points, should he layer?
    I think you might need a good lawyer
    Not to belabor my last post's comment but I need to know..... the w in layer (lawyer).... a subtle jab re "a couple of real good points"?

    I think I'll stay away from the thread suggestion you posted. Got a bad feeling in there.

    Apologies pineapples, for hijacking the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
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    Dunno...if a guy's girlfriend has a couple of real good points, should he layer?
    I think you might need a good lawyer
    Not to belabor my last post's comment but I need to know..... the w in layer (lawyer).... a subtle jab re "a couple of real good points"?

    I think I'll stay away from the thread suggestion you posted. Got a bad feeling in there.

    Apologies pineapples, for hijacking the thread.
    No ,too many layers there (too much myopism can make you blind)
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    (too much myopism can make you blind)
    Nice touch. Back on topic.
    All that belongs to human understanding, in this deep ignorance and obscurity, is to be skeptical, or at least cautious; and not to admit of any hypothesis, whatsoever; much less, of any which is supported by no appearance of probability...Hume
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