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  1. #1 Can you feel the tension on the forum? 
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    I think the forum is particularly touchy at the moment.
    1. New moderator appointment looming.
    2. Admin AWOL and a deadline looming
    3. John Galt's leaving the moderator role
    4. Emilito's raves
    5. Weg's absence
    6. Tranquille's return
    7. Howard Roark's experiences/opinions.

    8. Robittybob's lack of reading comprehension (so you guys keep on telling me). I don't believe it really.
    Not to mention Ebola, ISIS, Ukraine Afghanistan, and Climate Change.

    Problems problems problems......


     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquille View Post
    Is this really necessary?
    I wish it wasn't. How do you see the state of the forum?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    Can you feel the tension on the forum?
    No.
    But then again I'm not a delusional twit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Can you feel the tension on the forum?
    No.
    But then again I'm not a delusional twit.
    That is good to know since you might become one of the moderators.
     

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    I was going to ignore this thread, but what the hell, I'm bored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    I wish it wasn't. How do you see the state of the forum?
    I think they allow too many cranks to continue posting and starting silly threads and soiling this site's good name.

    Aside from that, it's a good forum.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquille View Post
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    I wish it wasn't. How do you see the state of the forum?
    I think they allow too many cranks to continue posting and starting silly threads and soiling this site's good name.
    The Ebola thread was great, and the one on ISIS super dooper , and who can tell if this one is good or bad (silly) yet?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil View Post
    I was going to ignore this thread, but what the hell, I'm bored.
    Thirteen hundred quatloos on the Kirk carbon unit to bang the green alien thrall.
    I must be from the wrong generation. I don't speak your language. Can you translate it into Klingon please.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquille View Post
    I think they allow too many cranks to continue posting and starting silly threads and soiling this site's good name.

    Aside from that, it's a good forum.
    I concur.

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    As for sources of tension, they still haven't fixed the Like button, have they?
    So that'll be source of tension number nine.

    9. The forum still has broken "Like" buttons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrmonroe
    9. The forum still has broken "Like" buttons.
    I was trying to be funny, and then you bring up a serious and real problem. Bummer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    I think the forum is particularly touchy at the moment.
    1. New moderator appointment looming.
    2. Admin AWOL and a deadline looming
    3. John Galt's leaving the moderator role
    4. Emilito's raves
    5. Weg's absence
    6. Tranquille's return
    7. Howard Roark's experiences/opinions.

    8. Robittybob's lack of reading comprehension (so you guys keep on telling me). I don't believe it really.
    Not to mention Ebola, ISIS, Ukraine Afghanistan, and Climate Change.

    Problems problems problems......
    ~ might I add.. 10. Opened Observatory, As the clouds rolled in. Now it's raining lightly.. closed observatory and home..
    No Moon visible for mark tonight.. " space.com " have it.. Grrr...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jrmonroe
    9. The forum still has broken "Like" buttons.
    I was trying to be funny, and then you bring up a serious and real problem. Bummer...
    You could take out your frustration on the like button. Play with it. Hit it. Till it finally works.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by astromark View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    I think the forum is particularly touchy at the moment.
    1. New moderator appointment looming.
    2. Admin AWOL and a deadline looming
    3. John Galt's leaving the moderator role
    4. Emilito's raves
    5. Weg's absence
    6. Tranquille's return
    7. Howard Roark's experiences/opinions.

    8. Robittybob's lack of reading comprehension (so you guys keep on telling me). I don't believe it really.
    Not to mention Ebola, ISIS, Ukraine Afghanistan, and Climate Change.

    Problems problems problems......
    ~ might I add.. 9. Opened Observatory, As the clouds rolled in. Now it's raining lightly.. closed observatory and home..
    No Moon visible for mark tonight.. " space.com " have it.. Grrr...
    You'll just have to wait till the next blood moon.
     

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    " Like "
    ~ thats in 2018 from here...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    Can you feel the tension on the forum?
    No.
    But then again I'm not a delusional twit.
    This is what I am talking about! This from someone who is about to become one of the new moderators! What sort of forum is this!? I know what the general feeling is about Robbity, but there is no call to be rude to the man! All he's done here is express concern about the situation of the forum, and Dywyddyr's comment proves that Robbitybob has raised valid issues. I have reported this post. Let's see what sort of moderation goes on here. The Duck is a troll. How can you even consider making him a moderator? Dywyddyr doesn't sense the tension because he is one of the causes of the tension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil View Post
    I was going to ignore this thread, but what the hell, I'm bored.
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    I prefer this one:

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    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
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    Can you feel the tension on the forum?
    No.
    But then again I'm not a delusional twit.
    This is what I am talking about! This from someone who is about to become one of the new moderators! What sort of forum is this!? I know what the general feeling is about Robbity, but there is no call to be rude to the man! All he's done here is express concern about the situation of the forum, and Dywyddyr's comment proves that Robbitybob has raised valid issues. I have reported this post. Let's see what sort of moderation goes on here. The Duck is a troll. How can you even consider making him a moderator?
    I think it will be interesting when Dywyddyr is a moderator for even though he is like a troll he does listen to reason. Saul of Tarsus type. What did the Lord do?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil View Post
    I was going to ignore this thread, but what the hell, I'm bored.
    Thirteen hundred quatloos on the Kirk carbon unit to bang the green alien thrall.
    I prefer this one:

    After being with her, does she rub off on you?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by astromark View Post
    " Like "
    ~ thats in 2018 from here...
    That's not long!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil View Post
    I was going to ignore this thread, but what the hell, I'm bored.
    Thirteen hundred quatloos on the Kirk carbon unit to bang the green alien thrall.
    I prefer this one:

    That's what I had in mind. Google failed me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    I think the forum is particularly touchy at the moment.
    1. New moderator appointment looming.
    2. Admin AWOL and a deadline looming
    3. John Galt's leaving the moderator role
    4. Emilito's raves
    5. Weg's absence
    6. Tranquille's return
    7. Howard Roark's experiences/opinions.

    8. Robittybob's lack of reading comprehension (so you guys keep on telling me). I don't believe it really.
    (...)

    Allow me to analyse what you have summed up and provide some comments.

    1. "New moderator appointment looming".
    How does this cause tension? The community is casting votes to determine who should become a moderator on this forum, for the benefit of the forum and its members. This is a positive thing, not a negative thing. The only problem I see, is the unnecessary posts made in it.

    2. "Admin AWOL and a deadline looming".
    I admit that the absence of Admin is troublesome, but there is nothing that conclusively points to a deadline. Someone brought up the millenium bug, and I think we should not see it that way. If the site goes down (which is as subject to speculation as the whereabouts of Admin), then we will seek another niche.

    3. "John Galt's leaving the moderator".
    It was his personal choice. We ought to respect it, despite our views on it. This is one of the reasons we created an official moderator nominations thread.

    4. "Emilito's raves".
    A temporal problem that can be solved. It is not the first time we saw things like that. We have had the sockpuppets of Gaiagirl95, the preaching of PetriFB, the disturbing behaviour of MoonCanvas and the lies of steelcat. Problems that were all solved by the Staff. Tension is unnecessary, clicking the "report button" is.

    5. "Weg's absence".
    She was last active on the 2nd of June this year. Given, she was a very active member (not in the hard sciences subfora), but why would that be touchy?

    6. "Tranquille's return".
    There is reason to believe that this statement was born out of a personal conflict. I will not comment on it.

    7. "Howard Roark's experiences/opinions".
    There is not enough information to comment on it without the probable consequence that I will be wrong.

    8. "Robittybob's lack of reading comprehension (so you guys keep on telling me). I don't believe it really".
    I will postpone posting comments on it until I evaluated the relevant opinions about it.
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

    ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, The Art of Being Right: 38 Ways to Win an Argument (1831), Stratagem XXXVIII.
     

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    Could we please get this thread moved from the site feed back to general subforums. Its not at all feed back related, and mostly seems to have been started for Robbitys personal opinions on how hes feeling, there is no tension that I can see.
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    If the forum bites the dust, it won't be the end of the world. The sun will still come up in the morning. There are projects around the house that need done. There are other science forums to join. Life goes on.

    If there is some grumpy guy grouching at you, or if there is some persistent crank who just can't get the hang of relativity, or some guy whose politics you don't like, it's easy. Just don't read the threads in question, and stay out of the pseudoscience trash can, or politics forum as the case may be.

    And Robbitybob, you are one of the main instigators of the drama on this forum, this thread being a case in point.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    This is what I am talking about! This from someone who is about to become one of the new moderators! What sort of forum is this!?
    It is a forum that tolerates a broad range of opinions, experiences, posting styles and characters. If it was more restrictive in its "rules" there is a good chance you would have been suspended by now and on some forums permanently banned.

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    I know what the general feeling is about Robbity, but there is no call to be rude to the man!
    That would be one of those opinions that you are free to have and free to share with us. I think there may be a case for delivering a verbal slap in an effort to change the persistently inappropriate behaviour of a member. On several forums Bob would have been banned long ago. What you are missing is that Bob's behaviour is rude.
    1. He fails to properly read what other members have posted.
    2. He disrails thread after thread.
    3. He routinely posts inappropriate comments.
    4. He introduces nonsense into serious science threads.
    5. He fails to respond to moderator requests.

    If you do no think that catalogue of persistent behaviour, about which he has been repeatedly warned, is not rude, then I am astounded. Should the Duck be rude in return? What action would you propose? Remain silent and allow lurkers to think Bob is a good representation of the ethos of this site?

    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    All he's done here is express concern about the situation of the forum.....
    That is not what he has done. He has introduced drama where none existed before.
    When I was considering whether or not to step down from the moderator role Bob started a thread - "Is John Galt going to quit?" That was when I made the decision to stand down. In post after post, thread after thread, he stirs things up. Currently his posting style is one of the most concerning things about the forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    The Duck is a troll. How can you even consider making him a moderator? Dywyddyr doesn't sense the tension because he is one of the causes of the tension.
    It is amusing that votes for the Duck increased after you started the campaign against him. If he gets elected his main thanks for that will go to you. Nice one!

    And as to tension, you generate a great deal more tension than the Duck ever has.
     

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    The only source of tension on the forum is the OP because he consistently acts like a pundit trying to drum up drama where there is none in order to call attention to himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    I think the forum is particularly touchy at the moment.
    1. New moderator appointment looming.
    2. Admin AWOL and a deadline looming
    3. John Galt's leaving the moderator role
    4. Emilito's raves
    5. Weg's absence
    6. Tranquille's return
    7. Howard Roark's experiences/opinions.

    8. Robittybob's lack of reading comprehension (so you guys keep on telling me). I don't believe it really.
    Not to mention Ebola, ISIS, Ukraine Afghanistan, and Climate Change.

    Problems problems problems......
    In your lexicon, is "tension" a synonym for "dwindling tolerance for Robbitybob1"?
     

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    I'm sure you think you're quite the man, eh, John Galt? You have not said one thing that I don't already know, except of course when you lie. Let's start from your last comment and work upwards. I am sure I don't cause as much tension as Dywyddyr. That's not possible. The only one I am hostile to is him and about him. I have no doubt he was imperiously insulting people on this forum long before I even knew it, or he, existed. That's your first lie.

    I know very well that my speaking against Dywyddyr has helped him in the polls. I understood that even before I began. I'm surprised no one has suspected me of sock-puppetry and masterful reverse psychology. I understood all of this, but went ahead because I thought you guys must be reasonable people who would resent Dywyddyr's rudeness and arrogance. You only needed a fresh viewpoint to wake you up to how awful he is.

    My mistake!

    So don't think you are clever for pointing that out to me. From my point of view you've been duped.

    As to whether Robbitybob1 has introduced drama where none existed before. No! That's Dywyddyr with his smart remarks that introduced drama to this thread where there was none. Whatever else it is it is not 'moderation'. Robbity may stir things up, but he is never mean about it that I have seen. That's your second lie.

    In any case when I said what I did in an earlier post in this thread it had only to do with Rob's remarks on this thread, and his remarks here were purely speculative. They did not strike me at all as instigating anything. If you think otherwise, just read his further comments.

    It's true that RobbityBob doesn't listen well to others, but he seems honestly not to be able to. This is not a reason to call him names. As adults I would think you would know that. So the other four points of your five-point list are invalid as they cannot be applied to this thread. (and 'disrails' is not a word in English anyway)

    You say: "If you do no think that catalogue of persistent behaviour, about which he has been repeatedly warned, is not rude, then I am astounded. Should the Duck be rude in return? What action would you propose?"

    Again, I am only concerned with this one thread. If it is as you say, that Robbity is persistent, than you (I mean the moderators and other members) should be respectfully guide him. Robbitybob is no worse a human being than any of the rest of us, and should be allowd his dignity. No one ever deserves to be insulted in the way he has been in this thread. So NO! Of course Dywyddyr should not be rude in return! Are you people in kindergarten? He hit you first, so hit him back!? Is that what passes for civil behavior on The Science Forum?

    I propose endless patience. Ironically RobbityBob is probably one of the few here who understands Christ's admonition. When asked how many times one should forgive his brother- seven times? Christs answered seventy seven times.

    I have observed John Galt that you are quite the literalist and not given to flights of the imagination. So you may miss that Christs meant you should always forgive. (I'm sure you are quite proud of your literalism, but I find it rather sad)

    You're first remark was: "It is a forum that tolerates a broad range of opinions, experiences, posting styles and characters. If it was more restrictive in its "rules" (your quotation marks - which make absolutely no sense) there is a good chance you would have been suspended by now and on some forums permanently banned."

    The first part is generally true except of course for Dywyddyr who feels free to offend all comers. And in case someone hasn't got this yet - is exactly why I object so strongly to his being elected moderator when he should be banned as a troll.

    When you say that I "would have been suspended by now and on some forums permanently banned" - well, this is the most outrageous of your lies. If you read through my 200 something post you will see the only time I have been belligerent is when I am speaking to or about Mr. Belligerence himself (it's wrong of me, I know, but boy! is he maddening!). If I have ever been unscientific or failed to give citations that's all the same to me. You have often tried to bully me in this regard but to the point of being laughable as when I misremembered which 'Alice' story the Walrus's speech came from. I may have been wrong, but you were simply ridiculous in your demand to be accurate on such a trivial matter. It's not like every poster in every single post here is scientific. You and Dywyddyr are often the least scientific or reasonable of all.

    So in your 'reality' a person can be banned for that sort of thing? In your reality a person can be banned for pointing out that an arrogant troll is not fit to be a moderator?

    This is my point: there is something seriously amiss with your science forum when name-calling arrogance is seen as good moderating, and members can be so hoodwinked as to actually elect the perpetrator as their new leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    It's true that RobbityBob doesn't listen well to others, but he seems honestly not to be able to.
    I like this part.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer w/Straw View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    It's true that RobbityBob doesn't listen well to others, but he seems honestly not to be able to.
    I like this part.
    "...and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story ...You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beer w/Straw View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    It's true that RobbityBob doesn't listen well to others, but he seems honestly not to be able to.
    I like this part.
    "...and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story ...You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here!"
    I disagree. This is a science forum not a therapy group for the synaptically challenged. Silly ideas, or meandering posts by people who can't express themselves, can be tolerated to a degree but have to be prevented from disrupting the threads they appear in.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
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    It's true that RobbityBob doesn't listen well to others, but he seems honestly not to be able to.
    I like this part.
    "...and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story ...You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here!"
    I disagree. This is a science forum not a therapy group for the synaptically challenged. Silly ideas, or meandering posts by people who can't express themselves, can be tolerated to a degree but have to be prevented from disrupting the threads they appear in.
    I take your point, but this is not a science forum, well it is, but more than that it is, what to call it, society, the world at large, just as much here as in your office, your home or any street corner anywhere in the whole wide world, and there are rules that outweigh whether someone can give citations or has evidence. Yes, yes. This is a science forum and we need those things but there is never a call to be rude and arrogant about it it. Never!



    Never. Ever.


    Ever.
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    You are thinking Bob hasn't earned the ridicule?

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    Never!



    Never. Ever.


    Ever.
    He virtually asks for it.
     

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    You are thinking Bob hasn't earned the ridicule?

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    Never!



    Never. Ever.


    Ever.
    He virtually asks for it.
    You must be referring to his signature: "Disclaimer: If I state something that is obviously wrong, please don't hesitate to correct me. I welcome such corrections in an attempt to be as truthful and accurate as possible."
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    hey! so you're the one who nicked my anti-stress kit !
    give it back !!!
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    You are thinking Bob hasn't earned the ridicule?

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    Never!



    Never. Ever.


    Ever.
    He virtually asks for it.
    You must be referring to his signature: "Disclaimer: If I state something that is obviously wrong, please don't hesitate to correct me. I welcome such corrections in an attempt to be as truthful and accurate as possible."

    Come on. You say Bob is incapable of listening and believe his signature is sincere?

    I don't agree with your assessment of John Galt either.
     

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    ...

    Come on. You say Bob is incapable of listening and believe his signature is sincere? .....
    I try and remember to turn my signature off before posting but sometimes I mess-up.
    But I do standby it.
    I don't feel victimized on the forum. Think I know how the forum works, and the likes of me could be a thorn in your sides, and I hear comment to that effect from time to time.
    I'm lost for words at the moment, was there tension on the thread or not? Something was different, are we all just impatiently waiting?
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    Robbity craves attention. On physforum, he posted hundreds of posts in 'his' thread, simply so he could boast about how many replies he had.
    He's doing pretty much the same thing here.
    Its the way nature is!
    If you dont like it, go somewhere else....
    To another universe, where the rules are simpler
    Philosophically more pleasing, more psychologically easy
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    I'm sure you think you're quite the man, eh, John Galt? You have not said one thing that I don't already know, except of course when you lie. Let's start from your last comment and work upwards. I am sure I don't cause as much tension as Dywyddyr. That's not possible. The only one I am hostile to is him and about him. I have no doubt he was imperiously insulting people on this forum long before I even knew it, or he, existed. That's your first lie.
    Are you in the habit of accusing people of lying? I have found many of your posts stressful. I have never been stressed by a post from the Duck. Before you ask, I find your cavalier attitude with facts and your passive-aggressive posting style disconcerting. So, I am not lying when I made that statement. I would welcome, but doubt I shall receive, an apology for your false accusation.

    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    I know very well that my speaking against Dywyddyr has helped him in the polls. I understood that even before I began. I'm surprised no one has suspected me of sock-puppetry and masterful reverse psychology. I understood all of this, but went ahead because I thought you guys must be reasonable people who would resent Dywyddyr's rudeness and arrogance. You only needed a fresh viewpoint to wake you up to how awful he is.
    My mistake!
    So don't think you are clever for pointing that out to me. From my point of view you've been duped.
    Why would I think I was clever for stating what seemed to me blindingly obvious?

    The Duck speaks directly. He speaks accurately. I have rarely caught him out in a mistake - and rest assured I frequently look for them. Is he rude? If telling someone who is acting like an idiot that they are acting like an idiot then he appears to be guilty. What do you want him to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    As to whether Robbitybob1 has introduced drama where none existed before. No! That's Dywyddyr with his smart remarks that introduced drama to this thread where there was none. Whatever else it is it is not 'moderation'. Robbity may stir things up, but he is never mean about it that I have seen. That's your second lie.
    It seems that Bob is not the only one with reading comprehension difficulties. Please specify where in this thread I have accused Bob of being mean. When you recognise that I have not done so, please feel free to apologise.

    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    Again, I am only concerned with this one thread. If it is as you say, that Robbity is persistent, than you (I mean the moderators and other members) should be respectfully guide him. Robbitybob is no worse a human being than any of the rest of us, and should be allowd his dignity. No one ever deserves to be insulted in the way he has been in this thread. So NO! Of course Dywyddyr should not be rude in return! Are you people in kindergarten? He hit you first, so hit him back!? Is that what passes for civil behavior on The Science Forum?
    Do you feel falsely accusing me of lying twice count as civil behaviour?

    As to his dignity, Bob has thrown his dignity away in the nature of his posts. Bob is a decent guy who has somehow lost his way and now engages in an unseemly display on this forum. I would be failing in my responsibility as a fellow human if I did not try to get through to him. I tried all the polite methods. They didn't work.

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    I propose endless patience. Ironically RobbityBob is probably one of the few here who understands Christ's admonition. When asked how many times one should forgive his brother- seven times? Christs answered seventy seven times.
    Bob receives automatic forgiveness from me whenever I see his name. I've forgiven him a darn sight more than seventy seven times and will continue to do so (incidentally giving a lie to your next faulty claim). It is because I have forgiven him that I continue to attack his behaviour.

    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    I have observed John Galt that you are quite the literalist and not given to flights of the imagination. So you may miss that Christs meant you should always forgive. (I'm sure you are quite proud of your literalism, but I find it rather sad)
    It seems your powers of observation have severe limitations. My imagination is perfectly healthy thank you, and currently engaged in the total overhaul of knowledge management system - where imagination is vital, or I don't keep my job - and in writing a symphony, where imagination is vital, or it would be a disappointing hobby.

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    The first part is generally true except of course for Dywyddyr who feels free to offend all comers. And in case someone hasn't got this yet - is exactly why I object so strongly to his being elected moderator when he should be banned as a troll.

    When you say that I "would have been suspended by now and on some forums permanently banned" - well, this is the most outrageous of your lies. If you read through my 200 something post you will see the only time I have been belligerent is when I am speaking to or about Mr. Belligerence himself (it's wrong of me, I know, but boy! is he maddening!). If I have ever been unscientific or failed to give citations that's all the same to me. You have often tried to bully me in this regard but to the point of being laughable as when I misremembered which 'Alice' story the Walrus's speech came from. I may have been wrong, but you were simply ridiculous in your demand to be accurate on such a trivial matter. It's not like every poster in every single post here is scientific. You and Dywyddyr are often the least scientific or reasonable of all.

    So in your 'reality' a person can be banned for that sort of thing? In your reality a person can be banned for pointing out that an arrogant troll is not fit to be a moderator?

    This is my point: there is something seriously amiss with your science forum when name-calling arrogance is seen as good moderating, and members can be so hoodwinked as to actually elect the perpetrator as their new leader.
    Reading comprehension difficulties again, I see.

    I have not seen anyone say that they think the Duck's current style should be directly converted to moderation. No one -other than you - has said or implied that what he currently does is moderation.

    I can assure you that if you tried your crap on the Physics Forum, as an example, you would be suspended pretty damn fast. And for a repeat offence you would be gone.

    You say you have only been belligerent to the Duck. Three false accusations of lying are not belligerent?

    If you don't like the way this forum is run you have a simple option.

    If you decide to stay I would be fascinated to learn what is unscientific about my posts. (If there were fewer nonsense posts, such as the one am having to respond to here, you would see considerably more science from me. So if that is what you are referring to , bleh!) As to The Duck, he can quack for himself.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    Robbity craves attention. On physforum, he posted hundreds of posts in 'his' thread, simply so he could boast about how many replies he had.
    He's doing pretty much the same thing here.
    You have got a bad memory Alex. I kept my thread going over there hoping someone would see it and work on the idea. Threads are raised daily and stay active for a few days and then disappear. I figured the longer it can be active the more chance the vital scientists had of reading the thread. OK in the end I was amazed at how many hundreds of thousands read it.
    Here I started this thread about the tension on the forum and across the world really. I didn't know how it would go but over night there must have been 30 odd posts, so I am amazed again, for it started off real slow.

    It is what general discussion is about isn't it? The forum owner gets paid for advertising based on hits on the site, we want the forum to survive so yes we do need activity here to make it worthwhile for him to pay the hosting fees.
     

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    Here I started this thread about the tension on the forum and across the world really. I didn't know how it would go but over night there must have been 30 odd posts, so I am amazed again, for it started off real slow.
    Most of which are complaints about you. You seem to be oblivious to that.
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    It is what general discussion is about isn't it? The forum owner gets paid for advertising based on hits on the site, we want the forum to survive so yes we do need activity here to make it worthwhile for him to pay the hosting fees.
    No, Bob. We don't need that kind of activity. How many members are going to leave because they are tired of reading your drivel?
     

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    The only slightly heightened concern that I am aware of pertains to speculation about the forum status beyond October 18th. Some of the more community oriented members are letting each other know where and how they may be contacted if this forum ceases to be. The moderators and Kalster are aware of this concern and have clearly stated that they have no other avenues to obtain any more details or contact the site owner. It is what it is.

    The moderator thread remains quite active.

    All other threads seem pretty much as usual with either boos or bouquets being bandied about, as befits the subject and/or the participants.
     

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    Here I started this thread about the tension on the forum and across the world really. I didn't know how it would go but over night there must have been 30 odd posts, so I am amazed again, for it started off real slow.
    Most of which are complaints about you. You seem to be oblivious to that.
    I didn't read them as complaints. There were a lot of post to take in, I'll admit that, so I might have missed something.
     

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    My first six hundred posts on this forum were trashing you -that's the reason I joined.

    You have that affect on people.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
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    It is what general discussion is about isn't it? The forum owner gets paid for advertising based on hits on the site, we want the forum to survive so yes we do need activity here to make it worthwhile for him to pay the hosting fees.
    No, Bob. We don't need that kind of activity. How many members are going to leave because they are tired of reading your drivel?
    Hardly any as far as I can tell. The same names seem to be here. People come and go and I'm sure Dywyddyr has chased more away than I ever will.
     

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    My first six hundred posts on this forum were trashing you -that's the reason I joined.

    You have that affect on people.
    That is a classic example of what I have to put up with!
     

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    It is what general discussion is about isn't it? The forum owner gets paid for advertising based on hits on the site, we want the forum to survive so yes we do need activity here to make it worthwhile for him to pay the hosting fees.
    No, Bob. We don't need that kind of activity. How many members are going to leave because they are tired of reading your drivel?
    Hardly any as far as I can tell. The same names seem to be here. People come and go and I'm sure Dywyddyr has chased more away than I ever will.
    Um... I didn't come to this forum originally to discuss science...
     

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    My first six hundred posts on this forum were trashing you -that's the reason I joined.

    You have that affect on people.
    That is a classic example of what I have to put up with!

    You want me to get into it again?

    You were not the victim, I was.
     

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    My first six hundred posts on this forum were trashing you -that's the reason I joined.

    You have that affect on people.
    That is a classic example of what I have to put up with!

    You want me to get into it again?

    You were not the victim, I was.
    Haven't we both put that behind us and now moving on?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    I didn't read them as complaints. There were a lot of post to take in, I'll admit that, so I might have missed something.
    What nonsense.
    If you read the posts as they were made - one at a time - then there shouldn't be a problem.
    This "excuse" of yours speaks highly of your continuing failure in comprehension.
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    My first six hundred posts on this forum were trashing you -that's the reason I joined.

    You have that affect on people.
    That is a classic example of what I have to put up with!

    You want me to get into it again?

    You were not the victim, I was.
    Haven't we both put that behind us and now moving on?
    Haven't you discovered that you're an inhuman, dishonest, sexual deviant yet?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    I didn't read them as complaints. There were a lot of post to take in, I'll admit that, so I might have missed something.
    What nonsense.
    If you read the posts as they were made - one at a time - then there shouldn't be a problem.
    This "excuse" of yours speaks highly of your continuing failure in comprehension.
    I've got to sleep sometime, and the majority came in overnight for me while I was asleep. Surely you are being highly illogical here D?
     

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    My first six hundred posts on this forum were trashing you -that's the reason I joined.

    You have that affect on people.
    That is a classic example of what I have to put up with!

    You want me to get into it again?

    You were not the victim, I was.
    Haven't we both put that behind us and now moving on?
    Haven't you discovered that you're an inhuman, dishonest, sexual deviant yet?
    That is all a bit rough. The answer is a categorical NO.
     

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    Even I will comment that some of 'roberttybob1's posts are out of left field..Just after the bus runs me over( I did not see that coming).
    I will offer a quick fix method for the not so tolerant among us.. If you find roberttybob1 a annoyance, don't read them..
    I actually enjoy his off hand contributions.. that does not suggest I agree with all he says.. but I see a genuine contributor being condemned for being honestly inquiring.. We should all just let the boat drift a little.. it lessons the impact inertia.
    Of this thread I agree with Bob.. I have noticed a head in the sand syndrome.. Whatever happens after the 18th.. I would like to see 'Roberttybob1.' some place.. he's fun. But that might just make me sicker than it is safe to be...
    When I see a confrontational response, I feel empathy for the subject..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    Surely you are being highly illogical here D?
    Not even slightly illogical.

    I've got to sleep sometime, and the majority came in overnight for me while I was asleep.
    Regardless of when the "majority" arrived the fact remains that numerous ones were posted while you were here (as evidenced not only by your claim here but also by virtue you having quoted and replied to them).
    You failed, entirely, to read, comprehend and adjust to those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Surely you are being highly illogical here D?
    Not even slightly illogical.

    I've got to sleep sometime, and the majority came in overnight for me while I was asleep.
    Regardless of when the "majority" arrived the fact remains that numerous ones were posted while you were here (as evidenced not only by your claim here but also by virtue you having quoted and replied to them).
    You failed, entirely, to read, comprehend and adjust to those.
    Show me an example of where I should adjust to something please? Are you adjusting to the complaints about you?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
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    My first six hundred posts on this forum were trashing you -that's the reason I joined.

    You have that affect on people.
    That is a classic example of what I have to put up with!

    You want me to get into it again?

    You were not the victim, I was.
    Haven't we both put that behind us and now moving on?
    Haven't you discovered that you're an inhuman, dishonest, sexual deviant yet?
    That is all a bit rough. The answer is a categorical NO.
    Good for you old man!

    You must be content with some religious (neurosis) in your mind to make you believe you're morally superior to everyone else.

    :EDIT:

    BTW Empathy is something you probably never had, whereas dishonesty is.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    Show me an example of where I should adjust to something please?
    And we're now back to you apparently not reading ANY of the posts addressed to you.
    How about where you completely ignored a mod request to not post any more in the Mod Nominations thread?

    Are you adjusting to the complaints about you?
    Oh, you mean the very small minority (mostly one poster)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    Show me an example of where I should adjust to something please?
    A couple requests from some of the most respected members here:

    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    99 posts.
    29 of them from RobittyBob1.
    Please shut up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    Bob, shut up.
    Take them to heart.
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    Forget banging your head against the wall as an anti-stress measure. If you REALLY want bust stress....unload a belt of M-60 ammo into something inanimate.

    Fixin' shit that ain't broke.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
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    Show me an example of where I should adjust to something please?
    A couple requests from some of the most respected members here:

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    99 posts.
    29 of them from RobittyBob1.
    Please shut up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    Bob, shut up.
    Take them to heart.
    That was on that particular thread which I did for a period. I took it to heart, Harold didn't mean not to post at all. Get reasonable.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyver1968 View Post
    Forget banging your head against the wall as an anti-stress measure. If you REALLY want bust stress....unload a belt of M-60 ammo into something inanimate.

    Unfortunately, the bowl has broken out on my steam roller. I have spare devices, but would love a belt of ammo and an M-60 about now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Show me an example of where I should adjust to something please?
    And we're now back to you apparently not reading ANY of the posts addressed to you.
    How about where you completely ignored a mod request to not post any more in the Mod Nominations thread?

    Are you adjusting to the complaints about you?
    Oh, you mean the very small minority (mostly one poster)?
    There would have been more than one. Gansu Man and myself for two and there's been more.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyver1968 View Post
    If you REALLY want bust stress....unload a belt of M-60 ammo into something inanimate.
    Dang!
    Is that where I'm doing it wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    There would have been more than one. Gansu Man and myself for two and there's been more.
    Yes, another example of your powers comprehension.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Oh, you mean the very small minority (mostly one poster)?
    Notice the word "minority"?
    Notice the word MOSTLY before the word "one"?
    I.e. I didn't say, or imply, that there as just one.
    (And how seriously should I take complaints from you bearing in mind that, as you yourself pointed out, YOU were the first to nominate me for the position of mod?)
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    I feel a lot of tension in the engineering section, some togetherness in the chemistry section, relationships are constantly changing in the biology section, but in the cosmology section everyone seems to be growing apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    I think the forum is particularly touchy at the moment.
    1. New moderator appointment looming.
    2. Admin AWOL and a deadline looming
    3. John Galt's leaving the moderator role
    4. Emilito's raves
    5. Weg's absence
    6. Tranquille's return
    7. Howard Roark's experiences/opinions.

    8. Robittybob's lack of reading comprehension (so you guys keep on telling me). I don't believe it really.
    Not to mention Ebola, ISIS, Ukraine Afghanistan, and Climate Change.

    Problems problems problems......
    I see we can wipe Emilito's raving off the list.

    On CNN today a former General said the situation with ISIS was like "playing 3D chess". Is that an actual game? It was certainly a vivid analogy.
    The US hospitals are getting built in Liberia. Another bit of good news. The US patient "Duncan" died ... well.
     

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    I feel a lot of tension in the engineering section, some togetherness in the chemistry section, relationships are constantly changing in the biology section, but in the cosmology section everyone seems to be growing apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    I feel a lot of tension in the engineering section, some togetherness in the chemistry section, relationships are constantly changing in the biology section, but in the cosmology section everyone seems to be growing apart.
    You are a little genius!
    Thank you.
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    There would have been more than one. Gansu Man and myself for two and there's been more.
    Yes, another example of your powers comprehension.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Oh, you mean the very small minority (mostly one poster)?
    Notice the word "minority"?
    Notice the word MOSTLY before the word "one"?
    I.e. I didn't say, or imply, that there as just one.
    (And how seriously should I take complaints from you bearing in mind that, as you yourself pointed out, YOU were the first to nominate me for the position of mod?)
    I still think you will be OK as a moderator. You just need a little fine tuning. Talking of tuning, I've got to take my car to the garage, BBS.
     

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    8. Robittybob's lack of reading comprehension (so you guys keep on telling me). I don't believe it really.
    Ah yes. The ol' "It's not me; it's everyone else!" gambit.

    So, how many people would it take to convince you?
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    I feel a lot of tension in the engineering section, some togetherness in the chemistry section, relationships are constantly changing in the biology section, but in the cosmology section everyone seems to be growing apart.
    I read this when I was very tired. Then re-read prior to saying bollocks and then I got it. Nice one. You forgot to mention that nothing earth shaking has been going on the Geology section. Do you have wind of anything in Meteorology?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    I feel a lot of tension in the engineering section, some togetherness in the chemistry section, relationships are constantly changing in the biology section, but in the cosmology section everyone seems to be growing apart.

    When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace.
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    There wasn't any tension on the forum before. But there is now in this thread, because of this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gogito Ergo Sum
    5. "Weg's absence".
    She was last active on the 2nd of June this year. Given, she was a very active member (not in the hard sciences subfora), but why would that be touchy?
    He had stalked her on another site and she eventually came here. He then came here and she stopped posting here as well. While I doubt he would be stupid enough to try and pull the same stunt here, since the other site seemed to let it go on forever before they banned him, but after what he did to her on the other site, I am not surprised she stopped posting here. He had sexually harassed myself and other female members on yet another site prior to the Wegs issue and when he started on Wegs, someone linked me his threads on that science forum and I read what he did to her just before he was banned for sexually harassing her and Beer and the threads concerned were deleted because he had also posted porn there as well and then apparently PM'ed one of the female moderators with sexually explicit comments about what she found sexually arousing or something along those lines. He'd tried to everyone else but himself.

    Wegs absence is a feeling of tension as I suspect he is curious about whether he was the one who drove her away from this site as well or whether she is no longer posting here because she is getting on with her life, her relationship which he had expressed issues with on the other site because old Rob here had told her that her being with him was predestined as he'd had a dream about it and he wouldn't leave her alone about it. So for him, both would be causing him to feel tension. Frankly, his naming her as a reason for tension is creepy, especially for those of us who know and read what he did to her on that science forum.

    Hopefully that explains some of it. And it hopefully explains why Beer and I can't stand him. I think Beer has been sexually harassed by him on two sites now, me on one, and Wegs on at least one that I am aware of, but Wegs also had the worst of it. At this rate, we could start a club. Not sure about the others. He was the main reason why I had stopped posting here for such a long while and it is why he is on ignore so that he is incapable of sending me PM's, after several requests that he not PM me were ignored and he PM'ed me anyway at the start of the year.

    I could go into more detail, but even that was enough to make my skin crawl again.
     

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    ... He had sexually harassed myself and other female members on yet another site prior to the Wegs issue ....
    So are you saying I had communication with you prior to here? I doubt that very much. Would you tell me your other name then please for it definitely wasn't Tranquille?

    I categorically deny all the accusations you make. That may be your view of the events but you are completely wrong in fact.
     

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    I'm surprised no one has suspected me of sock-puppetry and masterful reverse psychology.
    Oh, give it some time. I'm onto you. At the rate you are going, it will become clear soon enough to everyone else too as you keep slipping. Especially when you self-consciously all but confess to it when no one is accusing of that....yet.

    Don't worry, I'm pretty sure no one here thinks you the are duck. You only put that in there to better cover your arse, which has only had the effect of digging yourself in deeper. In fact, when you slip and almost say "skippy", saying the word "skipper" instead, I have to wonder if you accidentally wrote that sentence because of sub-conscious guilt. Haven't you seen "American Psycho"? Every corrupt jerk wants to be caught, to quote Willem Dafoe in that film. Why? Being notorious is only half as fun if no one knows about it.

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    I know very well that my speaking against Dywyddyr has helped him in the polls.




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    I understood that even before I began.

    You are a terrible liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人
    I understood all of this, but went ahead because I thought you guys must be reasonable people who would resent Dywyddyr's rudeness and arrogance.
    ha! No you didn't. When you joined this forum, after a few token posts to establish your reputation, you went right for Dywddyr's balls like the troll you were hoping to hurt him and pursue your agenda....that of revenge against him. If you REALLY cared about this forum, you'd acknowledge the consensus and values of this community: the clear majority likes and respects him.

    In fact, it would appear the only person who doesn't like him IS YOU. So this entire forum has to bow to your whims? So, let's get this straight: if you don't like him and think he is a troll when everyone else doesn't have a problem with him, then he's still a troll and bad for this forum ONLY because you say so. How narcissistic of you.

    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人
    If I have ever been unscientific or failed to give citations that's all the same to me. You have often tried to bully me in this regard but to the point of being laughable as when I misremembered which 'Alice' story the Walrus's speech came from.
    That's an interesting point. I've noticed you discuss very little in the way of science, mostly consumed by the drama of the forum; most of which YOU generate. Curious about your some of YOUR OWN scientific views since you like to accuse others of being unscientific.

    Here's an easy one: tell me again about your 'views' about climate change? I noticed your thread where you went out of the way to share a conveniently vague, restrained (and I would argue phony) stance on that issue. How about discussing the science of it? Do you agree that man-made CO2 is the culprit? My prediction: you will dodge this question and throw out a red-herring instead because you don't want to risk exposing yourself and your true nature.

    But hey, congratulations, btw, on helping the duck get (most likely) elected. Sure he couldn't have done it without you!
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    So are you saying I had communication with you prior to here? I doubt that very much. Would you tell me your other name then please for it definitely wasn't Tranquille?
    Yes, you had. No, my name back then was not Tranquille. And no, I will not tell you what my other name was. For obvious reasons.

    I categorically deny all the accusations you make. That may be your view of the events but you are completely wrong in fact.
    Of course you do. You tried to deny you were harassing us even as you were doing it and everyone could see exactly what you were doing, like when you posted porn and asked one poster how it made her feel and if it turned her on, you did that openly and then tried to deny you had done it, as you were doing it.

    Your use of Wegs not posting here anymore being a source of tension after what you did to her is kind of creepy. She wasn't a source of conflict here, nor is her no longer posting here a source of conflict. But for you it is. Which kind of proves my point.

    It is why I asked if this thread was even necessary, because it wasn't necessary as there was no tension on this site. But here we are and here is your tension. You have the attention you so crave. Well not from me anymore. Good day.
     

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    The thread is getting too mean spirited. I'm shutting it down if this continues.
    No offense Harold, but the OP itself was mean spirited, and all the responses from all of us since then.
     

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    Hey Sci o' Dee ! You inspire me to Elvis Costello lyrics: Used to be disgusted, now I'm just amused! Really, it's flattering what close attention you've paid to my posts. Yes, I did say 'skipper' to that Irishman who speaks some Chinese (more than I do, I am sure). He's a good man, and we were having a friendly chat. That's what we're here for, you know.

    I see you persists in thinking I'm Emma. Why should I even say anything about that? One reason: you're just so funny! All you have to do is ask the mods - oh here- I'll do it. Ladies and gentlemen of the Moderation team (which now includes my buddy the duck, right? We're past the election deadline. Congratulations to all!) Anyhoo! Moderation team please look into whether or not I am Emma or OTC (?) or any incarnation of that particular person. I hope it will please you to publish your findings here. (Before the 18th if you please). I can tell you this - when OTC sent me all those PMs that day before he was banned, he addressed me as 'Skippy'. I also know over on SciForums a few months back there was a short-lived troll who claimed to be Cajun (Uncle...Remus???) who said he couldn't help but call everyone Skippy. Go figure.

    I might suggest you check SoD's past incarnations, but I'd have to care first.

    SoD: never post YouTube videos for my benefit. I live in China. I can't see them. All I get is a big blank timed out connection rectangle. So I don't know what that was about. Willem Dafoe then?

    Yes, I am a terrible liar, and so I never do lie.

    I am not much of one for 'agendas'. I spoke truly when I told you earlier that I came here to learn and discuss science, and yes, other stuff like we see in the more casual bits of the forum. You'll never find me in physics or math. Earlier when Galt told me I'd be banned from the Physics Forum I only wondered what that is. I've never been there. Not my thing.

    Can we not talk about the Duck anymore? It's as I said to you earlier. He struck me as far and away the worst troll here. Clearly most think otherwise. Ah well, we shall see if he doesn't discourage young posters. Until the 18th, if that really is doomsday, I will question the Duck's behavior if I find it immoderate. He may return the favor, especially in his new capacity, but I know he will find little to criticize. As you have observed I do very little hard science, and I am only ever out of control when he annoys me with his rudeness to others. (You are mistaken to think I am out for vengeance with him. Never heard of him until quite recently)

    You don't listen too good SoD. I never asked anyone to bow to my whims. My concern has always been the quality of this forum which is our new home. I say new because I have under 300 posts and you less than 25. Strange how you always come off as a veteran.

    Now to the main event (I must warn you of my anticlimactic response). You wrote:
    That's an interesting point. I've noticed you discuss very little in the way of science, mostly consumed in the drama of the forum. Curious about your some of YOUR OWN scientific views.
    Here's an easy one: what are your views on man-made climate change? More than 97% of climatologists worldwide believe in manmade global warming. The scientific consensus is that manmade global warming is real and harming this world. Only an idiot would disagree with those findings and the rock solid data on it is very compelling. In fact, conservatives are desperately funding cranks and quacks to come out against global warming for purely political reasons. Science has had a pretty good track record on this. The deniers are the equivalent of the flat-earth society and are shilling for corrupt corporate interests. Curious about your take on all of this? Pretty standard stuff to ask of someone on a 'science' forum and you don't need to be an expert to tell that something is wrong with the environment and mankind is a major culprit.
    I'm not sure what will be MORE interesting: watching you come out against it simply because you can't help yourself OR you completely ignoring my question--so simple a question (where every other person on this forum would have no problem offering their quick opinion on so important a topic, you won't). My prediction: you will ignore it because you don't want to get caught and be exposed for who you are.
    How very artless!

    You surprise me in that you know me down to my use of 'skipper' (one time) and that I don't go in for scientific views of much of anything - and yet you missed this thread of mine. I don't recall if I was anti-duck yet at the time. I'll have to check "my agenda".

    Now, if it's all the same to you. I will be going to check on my thread about mundane tasks. I also enjoy the 'Mandatory Mandarin' thread as my Kiwi friend calls it, and the Follow on game thread, where the duck lies down with the rat and we eat flowers together and all is peace and innocent word play.

    This really is good bye, Gilligan (erm, I mean 'Skipper')!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人
    Hey Sci o' Dee ! You inspire me to Elvis Costello lyrics: Used to be disgusted, now I'm just amused! Really, it's flattering what close attention you've paid to my posts.
    It's kind of hard not to. Most people can't help but look at a train wreck, especially when one that is happening before your very eyes.

    Let's see...

    -So far you've falsely accused a seasoned mod of being a pathological liar multiple times (John Galt).
    -Out of the blue you started obsessively attacking Dydrddyr for no reason (even though you don't know him and are new around here). You accused him of being the world's biggest troll without evidence (even though he is a long established member, which speaks for itself), and you've been trying to disrupt the nomination process with your false accusations and drama ever since, even though it backfired on you.
    -Most of your posts are benign quips OR page long rants of banality.
    -Your jokes are awful and ring phony, like you are trying to pass off your trolling and agenda like some good hearted horsing around, making you more annoying.
    -Your constant self-conscious references about being from China would insult most REAL people from China since you make such an effort to point it out it almost feels like an act. I don't see anyone else doing that. Look at me! I'm from Israel! See??? No one cares.
    -You don't listen to mods when they tell you repeatedly to cut out the drama.
    -You enthusiastically engage in drama wherever you can and are addicted to insulting of veteran users; behavior that WOULD get you banned (permanently) in most any other forums.

    Do I need to go further or do we need to break out the crayons and draw a picture for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人
    Yes, I did say 'skipper' to that Irishman who speaks some Chinese (more than I do, I am sure). He's a good man, and we were having a friendly chat. That's what we're here for, you know.

    I see you persists in thinking I'm Emma. Why should I even say anything about that? One reason: you're just so funny! All you have to do is ask the mods - oh here- I'll do it. Ladies and gentlemen of the Moderation team (which now includes my buddy the duck, right? We're past the election deadline. Congratulations to all!) Anyhoo! Moderation team please look into whether or not I am Emma or OTC (?) or any incarnation of that particular person. I hope it will please you to publish your findings here. (Before the 18th if you please). I can tell you this - when OTC sent me all those PMs that day before he was banned, he addressed me as 'Skippy'. I also know over on SciForums a few months back there was a short-lived troll who claimed to be Cajun (Uncle...Remus???) who said he couldn't help but call everyone Skippy. Go figure.

    I might suggest you check SoD's past incarnations, but I'd have to care first.

    SoD: never post YouTube videos for my benefit. I live in China. I can't see them. TRANSLATION: Uses a chinese proxy from a proxy list that any nitwit can use online, to get away with socking. All I get is a big blank timed out connection rectangle. So I don't know what that was about. Willem Dafoe then?

    Yes, I am a terrible liar, and so I never do lie.

    I am not much of one for 'agendas'. I spoke truly when I told you earlier that I came here to learn and discuss science, and yes, other stuff like we see in the more casual bits of the forum. You'll never find me in physics or math. Earlier when Galt told me I'd be banned from the Physics Forum I only wondered what that is. I've never been there. Not my thing.

    Can we not talk about the Duck anymore? It's as I said to you earlier. He struck me as far and away the worst troll here. Clearly most think otherwise. Ah well, we shall see if he doesn't discourage young posters. Until the 18th, if that really is doomsday, I will question the Duck's behavior if I find it immoderate. He may return the favor, especially in his new capacity, but I know he will find little to criticize. As you have observed I do very little hard science, and I am only ever out of control when he annoys me with his rudeness to others. (You are mistaken to think I am out for vengeance with him. Never heard of him until quite recently)

    You don't listen too good SoD. I never asked anyone to bow to my whims. My concern has always been the quality of this forum which is our new home. I say new because I have under 300 posts and you less than 25. Strange how you always come off as a veteran.

    Now to the main event (I must warn you of my anticlimactic response).


    If I was asked to sum you up your phony attempts to contribute to this forum in ONE word, I could: banality. Thin camouflage for your raison d'Ítre: to troll and disrupt this forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人
    Quote Originally Posted by scienceofdesign
    That's an interesting point. I've noticed you discuss very little in the way of science, mostly consumed in the drama of the forum. Curious about your some of YOUR OWN scientific views.
    Here's an easy one: what are your views on man-made climate change? More than 97% of climatologists worldwide believe in manmade global warming. The scientific consensus is that manmade global warming is real and harming this world. Only an idiot would disagree with those findings and the rock solid data on it is very compelling. In fact, conservatives are desperately funding cranks and quacks to come out against global warming for purely political reasons. Science has had a pretty good track record on this. The deniers are the equivalent of the flat-earth society and are shilling for corrupt corporate interests. Curious about your take on all of this? Pretty standard stuff to ask of someone on a 'science' forum and you don't need to be an expert to tell that something is wrong with the environment and mankind is a major culprit.
    I'm not sure what will be MORE interesting: watching you come out against it simply because you can't help yourself OR you completely ignoring my question--so simple a question (where every other person on this forum would have no problem offering their quick opinion on so important a topic, you won't). My prediction: you will ignore it because you don't want to get caught and be exposed for who you are.
    How very artless!

    You surprise me in that you know me down to my use of 'skipper' (one time) and that I don't go in for scientific views of much of anything - and yet you missed this thread of mine.
    Funny you should mention that thread that you authored about "The People's Climate March": Ahem...
    Maybe you can help me here: who is the author of that picture about The People's Climate March?
    Now re-read this thread...again.
    Interesting the NEW context that picture takes on after re-reading that thread you authored.
    That picture went up only a couple days AFTER that thread was created.
    Coincidence?
    Smoke, meet gun.

    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人
    I don't recall if I was anti-duck yet at the time. I'll have to check "my agenda".

    Now, if it's all the same to you. I will be going to check on my thread about mundane tasks. I also enjoy the 'Mandatory Mandarin' thread as my Kiwi friend calls it, and the Follow on game thread, where the duck lies down with the rat and we eat flowers together and all is peace and innocent word play.
    Word of advice, mouse: Use milk on your cheerios instead of whiskey.

    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人
    This really is good bye, Gilligan (erm, I mean 'Skipper')!
    *yawn* Do everyone a favor and leave comedy to the professionals.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquille View Post
    No offense Harold, but the OP itself was mean spirited, and all the responses from all of us since then.
    I'm definitely not mean spirited and none of my posts will ever be that way.
    Just don't tell me there isn't tension on the forum, there is and and it is flowing so freely it amazes me.
    I'd love to see Wegs post again and let us all know how she is getting on.
    That would be like old times again. *Hugs*
     

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    A sexual predator denying the accusations of his victims.
    Its the way nature is!
    If you dont like it, go somewhere else....
    To another universe, where the rules are simpler
    Philosophically more pleasing, more psychologically easy
    Prof Richard Feynman (1979) .....

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    The thread is getting too mean spirited. I'm shutting it down if this continues.
    Maybe Bob1 should've been banned from the beginning?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    A sexual predator denying the accusations of his victims.
    Did I miss a line in the OP? Was that therapeutic for you Alex? Did you find some benefit in saying that?
    Has it relieved some of your tension that you must have bottled up for the last 3 years?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer w/Straw View Post
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    The thread is getting too mean spirited. I'm shutting it down if this continues.
    Maybe Bob1 should've been banned from the beginning?
    How many bottles have you consumed today? That is so funny, thanks for making me laugh.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquille View Post
    Yes, you had. No, my name back then was not Tranquille. And no, I will not tell you what my other name was. For obvious reasons. ...
    I possibly know who you mean. Hell's Bells?? There was no one else who it could be, but you have already denied being "Bells", so that is even stranger still.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by precious siraj View Post
    "Unconditional Apology" bob.
    Thanks siraj.
    Even though of all posters I don't think we've ever had a cross word. I have in many ways deserved some of the flack I get, but I do wonder when will it end.
    Thanks again.
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    "Unconditional Apology" bob.
    Thanks siraj.
    I have in many ways deserved some of the flack I get, but I do wonder when will it end.
    After you apologise to the members you have hurt so badly.

    You have affected the ecosystem of this forum grossly. You better amend your style to avoid a ban.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by precious siraj View Post
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    "Unconditional Apology" bob.
    Thanks siraj.
    I have in many ways deserved some of the flack I get, but I do wonder when will it end.
    After you apologise to the members you have hurt so badly.

    You have affected the ecosystem of this forum grossly. You better amend your style to avoid a ban.
    All the troubles happened on other forums. I don't think I can apologize, sorry.
    If I said I am sorry for hating Alex I'd be lying, but I have offered my peace offering to all of them many times.

    I have already apologized to B w/Straw, and again "Sorry that you were offended when no offence was intended".

    Tranquille you are just too much. Nothing to apologize for as far as I can tell.
    Dywyddyr - I've always been OK with him.
     

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    All right, that's enough. Bob, you get a week off. You think it's funny do you? Thread locked.
     

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