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    What do you think about dreams? i was talking with someone about dreams and the subject of dreams in color come up... i just assumed all dreams are in color but this person said they have NEVER had a dream in color :? ...only black and white (no color) so i ask some other people and they say the same thing...black and white and sometimes color.

    so i was wondering. Do you dream in color or do you dream without color (black/white)?


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    My dreams are psycodelic, they are in colour but are about the most random things, strang, i don't think i like the implication this has upon my mental health.


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    Ok, let us imagine you are born blind, what color are your dreams then?

    You see with your eyes, this information is passed to the brain as thoughts. Your dreams are just thoughts, your not actually seeing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevyn
    My dreams are psycodelic, they are in colour but are about the most random things, strang, i don't think i like the implication this has upon my mental health.
    cool that sounds nice! dream on!


    Ok, let us imagine you are born blind, what color are your dreams then?

    You see with your eyes, this information is passed to the brain as thoughts. Your dreams are just thoughts, your not actually seeing.
    hmm i guess you dream of sound, touch, and yes thoughts (which can still lead to anxiety/fear/and happiness.
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    I dream in colour. I can say this because I remember a dream where I was on acid and everywhere was pink and red and people's heads became red hearts.
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    remember being the key word there.

    I have not voted because i think both statements are false.
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    well i have heard at many places what we do in our day time is just what implies in our dreams. But what i dream has no interaction with my day's work.
    can some body explain me the reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crichton01
    remember being the key word there.

    I have not voted because i think both statements are false.
    so do you not dream? or do you just dream and not see anything?
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    Sometimes I remember my dreams, other times I don't. The most vivid dreams I have are usually when im faced with the elements, such as on the sea, in the air etc. During the day our thoughts are controlled by stimuli and by our reasoning, im sure that dreams are just the minds way of relaxing.

    But......Why do we have REM just before we dream ? Any ideas ??

    Strange phenomena occur too, our dreams can seem to go on for ages, in reality we dream for around 30 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crichton01
    Ok, let us imagine you are born blind, what color are your dreams then?

    You see with your eyes, this information is passed to the brain as thoughts. Your dreams are just thoughts, your not actually seeing.
    People born blind do in fact see. They just use the senses they have to build images. As for their dreams.. I'm not sure. They do know textures and shapes and sounds etc. so I am sure they do see images in their dreams... Maybe they are in color too... would it be the right color though?

    Quote Originally Posted by leohopkins
    Strange phenomena occur too, our dreams can seem to go on for ages, in reality we dream for around 30 seconds.
    Time means nothing. One way of practicing meditation is to make time go as slow as possible. Make what would normally feel like half an hour into what feels like a day... or more. Like learning a language. If you listen to someone speak Japanese but don't understand it it seems like they talk incredibly fast but, if you speak Japanese it sounds normal. In fact it's the same with everything. Martial arts is another good one. You think Kung Fu experts are soo fast but to them it's jsut like a slow dance (I know).
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    lol 9 votes of color and 0 black and white. i thought black and white was odd. im thinking now that everybody who dreams in black and white just doesnt pay attention to the color in their dreams or forgets the colors...
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    lol 9 votes of color and 0 black and white. i thought black and white was odd. im thinking now that everybody who dreams in black and white just doesnt pay attention to the color in their dreams or forgets the colors...
    Or they are still using the same TV they had in the 1940's....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
    Quote Originally Posted by SealOtter
    lol 9 votes of color and 0 black and white. i thought black and white was odd. im thinking now that everybody who dreams in black and white just doesnt pay attention to the color in their dreams or forgets the colors...
    Or they are still using the same TV they had in the 1940's....
    What about before they had TVs. Are they on a stage?
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    ok since everybody helped me answer my first question i have another a follow up:

    How many people have had sleep paralysis? I hear everybody has it at least once in their life.
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    I've had this once before, a few years ago when i used to indulge in substances and parties. After a heavy weekend i was trying to get to sleep, my body must have thought it was asleep but my mind was fully alert. I felt a numbness start at my feet and slowly move up my body, i didn't think much of it at first until upto my waist was completely numb.

    So i thought i better stand up, but couldn't move my legs by this time it was coming right upto my chest and eventually engulfed my head. By this time i started to panic because i didn't know what was happening and snapped myself out of it, i sat right up and felt pure confusion as to what had just happened.

    I looked on the net for information and the only explanation i could find was drug induced sleep paralysis but i never went to the doctors or anything and it has never happened since but i will say it was quite a scary experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SealOtter
    ok since everybody helped me answer my first question i have another a follow up:

    How many people have had sleep paralysis? I hear everybody has it at least once in their life.
    Never heard of it.
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    Most likely we simply take color for granted — same as the clothes we wear: what were you wearing last time in your dream? shoes too? Yet, we distinctly notice it when we're stark naked.

    Paralysis — yup. But not so often these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad . hoc
    Most likely we simply take color for granted — same as the clothes we wear: what were you wearing last time in your dream? shoes too? Yet, we distinctly notice it when we're stark naked.

    Paralysis — yup. But not so often these days.
    That's a great observation of a lot of memory and recall phenomenon... not only dreams but recalling events and so on.

    Ask anyone about the weather when they were a kid and the 'extremes' are remembered and the rest forgotten. Was there really more snow ? Perhaps yes, but we forget the other 100 days of winter when it was uneventful.

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    Dream is a communication of body, mind and spirit in a symbolic communicative environmental state of being. Our conscious mind, or the part we think with, our "window" into life, only takes up a very small portion of our brain activity. (some say this is only 10%) Other areas control things like breathing, heartbeat, converting light to vision, sound to hearing, balance when we walk, etc. More you can visit here about dream....
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    Ok, let us imagine you are born blind, what color are your dreams then?
    This has never occurred to me, it is hard to imagine. Also, what kind, if any, of inner monologue does a person who was born deaf have. I always think in words, (at least my conscious, concentrated thoughts). I assume everyone else does too?

    I've heard dreams explained as something like a "tape" where parts of your memory are replayed (kind of). Obviously your brain must create new images as well since we are all familiar with dreams that are pieced together from bits and pieces of our memories and sometimes just random (often weird) crap. What I've always wondered is if there are shadows in our dreams, I can never remember. But if there are then the brain would have to choose light sources and calculate the shadows wouldn't it? I would find that pretty impressive. Does anyone remember ever seeing shadows in their dreams?
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    I can never remember such little details about my dreams, usually unless its a real strange one i usually forget the entire dream so remembering shadows is a bit too detailed.

    I wonder about the being born deaf, blind thing. Imagine trying to explain to a deaf person that you think in words, you could really try your best to explain it but i don't think they would grasp it.

    So i'm wondering now what things are there that us as able bodied people simply can't see or hear within our spectrum, for example other dimensions, surely sound would be like another dimension to a deaf person, the sounds are there but they don't hear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crichton01

    I wonder about the being born deaf, blind thing. Imagine trying to explain to a deaf person that you think in words, you could really try your best to explain it but i don't think they would grasp it.
    i would probly use sign language


    I can never remember such little details about my dreams, usually unless its a real strange one i usually forget the entire dream so remembering shadows is a bit too detailed.

    speaking of strange dreams, my dream last night was about my house being broken into and they stole everything in the else while i was asleep. there was ductape on the stairs too. it was freaky because they came into my room and left me alone while they stole all my stuff. i woke up wondering if they drugged me or something..
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    i dreamt about killing zombies and other things...
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    i woke up wondering if they drugged me or something..

    Just be glad you didn't wake up with a slack bum and a condom on the floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crichton01
    i woke up wondering if they drugged me or something..

    Just be glad you didn't wake up with a slack bum and a condom on the floor.
    -lol, LOL
    -when one of my buddies passsed out we put him on the counch and kicked him in the ass a few times and left a condom with milk in it on the floor. When he woke up, even though i was there god could only describe his anger lol
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    get to my age and you wake up every morning with a slack bum and er no condom on the floor....
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny
    -when one of my buddies passsed out we put him on the counch and kicked him in the ass a few times and left a condom with milk in it on the floor. When he woke up, even though i was there god could only describe his anger lol


    May i ask what made him 'pass out' lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by crichton01
    Quote Originally Posted by johnny
    -when one of my buddies passsed out we put him on the counch and kicked him in the ass a few times and left a condom with milk in it on the floor. When he woke up, even though i was there god could only describe his anger lol


    May i ask what made him 'pass out' lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by crichton01
    I wonder about the being born deaf, blind thing. Imagine trying to explain to a deaf person that you think in words, you could really try your best to explain it but i don't think they would grasp it.
    Hmm... i wonder how would deaf people read? Because normally when you read you sort of say the words inside your head. And how do blind people dream if they dont really know what the stuff looks like?

    What a coincidence that im reading a book about dreams at the moment! I always dream in colour and ive never heard of anyone not doing so. I was reading a part where it said that you dream about things that are connected with your life and are based on your experiences of the previous day or sometimes from times before that. So i would imagine if you see things in colour you would dream about them in colour...
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    Fetuses dream, even though they have never seen anything. When you are dreaming, your body is strengthening the relationships that you have made. Dreams are essentially your mind trying to make sense of all of this activity, which is why much of the time dreams do not seem relevant to anything at all. Blind people don't dream images, but the experience the sensation of movement and sound etc. Fetuses would do the same I imagine, although I have never read anything about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellybird

    Hmm... i wonder how would deaf people read? Because normally when you read you sort of say the words inside your head. And how do blind people dream if they dont really know what the stuff looks like?
    You have to understand, our mind makes images based on all our senses. If you are blind than other sense become more sensitive and you still create images. Why do you think blind people fell people's faces? So that they can create an image of it.

    Read some Freud. He is a little creepy and insane, etc. but he had some interesting ideas on dreams.
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    Read some Freud. He is a little creepy and insane, etc. but he had some interesting ideas on dreams.
    ha, doing so right now!!! Reading the Interpretation of Dreams in case you're wondering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellybird
    Read some Freud. He is a little creepy and insane, etc. but he had some interesting ideas on dreams.
    ha, doing so right now!!! Reading the Interpretation of Dreams in case you're wondering.
    I've always wanted to ask Freud what it means if you have just plain dreams of normal things. Maybe it will explain in there. I haven't had the time to read much of it, but I was taught some of it.
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    I've always wanted to ask Freud what it means if you have just plain dreams of normal things. Maybe it will explain in there. I haven't had the time to read much of it, but I was taught some of it.
    I thought we all had plain dreams of normal things, now just sit on that couch over there, and tell uncle mega all about them, and don't mind the students, they are just here to take notes...
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    hey what is everybody's earliest dream they can recall? mine is right now: running away from a witch and the witch keeps gaining on me and she is old and slow only i cant out run her because im moving slower and slower myself!
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    OK that's easy for me although well over half a century ago, it's the one that has stayed with me [no I do not still have it] - I dreamt that I woke up and went downstairs, as I descended the stairs I notice the ceiling seemen to be marked in dark vivid colours, these squares were changing colour, I told my fathere that the ceiling was was changing colour, he said replied something like "it's only a dream don't worry". Crap eh? well you asked!
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    Oh I got a good one.

    I was in my basement although, it didn't look exactly like my basement but it was in my house... you know how dreams are. There is a teapot on a stove (who has a stove in their basment?). And then for some reason the teapot starts shooting golf balls everywhere... and they bounce around off the walls and stuff. It's pretty weird. I have had the dream quite a few times and in one I think aliens came down and blew up me house or something... can't really remember. It wasn't scary or anything, it was just weird. I wonder what Freud would say about that.

    I had one other that was pretty simple but I remember it used to wake me up. All black with a cloudy white humanoid shape that gets bigger and bigger.

    Not sure which one is older.

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    hey what is everybody's earliest dream they can recall? mine is right now: running away from a witch and the witch keeps gaining on me and she is old and slow only i cant out run her because im moving slower and slower myself!
    I have had one very similar to that but, I can't remember it very well.
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    Always in colour, I remember hundreds of dreams I've had through the years (often only a few images, sometimes the entire 'story').

    Quote Originally Posted by SealOtter
    How many people have had sleep paralysis? I hear everybody has it at least once in their life.
    I had it hundreds of times, usually short and painless but a couple dozens of times it was very long, painfull and scary as hell.. It suddenly started a couple years ago. It really sucks, when it's a heavy one I seem to get some epileptic symptoms as well (probably induced by the paralysis), and the weirdest halucinations. Been to the neurologist for it, but sleeping paralysis doesn't seem to be a very well known issue yet (he just checked me for epilepsy and found nothing).
    So I'm still trying to figure out what sleeping paralysis really is, all I know is that the body is 'at sleep' while most brain functions have been switched on; the brain expects the body to react normally to stimuli ('raise arm', 'move legs', etc), and when it gets no feedback from the body it starts to act strange and fills up the void with sensations and images (just like when your ears are numbed, the brain generates 'white noise' because it's not getting the sound input it expects to get). Please tell me if you know more, I'm eager to understand this.
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    I have had sleep paralysis a few times but it's nothing to really worry about. I can't tell you more because you just described exactly what it is It's basically when you're waking up or drifting in and out of sleep, you half wake-up but your body doesn't. So when your mind is in this half-dream state you start to hallucinate and think up reasons for why you can't move.

    For me, every time it happens I think I'm getting abducted. Years ago people used to tell stories of how incubus and other demons would come into your bedroom, paralyse you and rape you. You don't hear much stories about this any more because people don't really believe in demons. I think most people hallucinate and see aliens, since that seems to be the modern thing.

    Yeah it can be scary.. but you just have to remember it's your mind and you can control it. I've started a few lucid dreams from sleep paralysis, it's pretty easy to get back into dreaming from there.
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    i think we dream with our spirits.
    if there is nothing like that why our dreams sometimes cames exactly as how we have seen?
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    i think we dream with our spirits.
    if there is nothing like that why our dreams sometimes cames exactly as how we have seen?
    Yeah right on, are you awake at the moment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
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    i think we dream with our spirits.
    if there is nothing like that why our dreams sometimes cames exactly as how we have seen?
    Yeah right on, are you awake at the moment?
    Are you? Maybe the little green men are probing your brain as you think.

    Or maybe they're not really green... :?
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    You as well eh? I am dissappointed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Development
    I have had sleep paralysis a few times but it's nothing to really worry about. I can't tell you more because you just described exactly what it is
    But I still wonder what causes sleep paralysis. Most people have it once in their life, but I have it at least once a week (often 3 times a week, in periods).

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    For me, every time it happens I think I'm getting abducted. Years ago people used to tell stories of how incubus and other demons would come into your bedroom, paralyse you and rape you. You don't hear much stories about this any more because people don't really believe in demons. I think most people hallucinate and see aliens, since that seems to be the modern thing.
    Yea I guess a lot of old myths can be explained by people halucinating during sleep paralysis. If I was a medieval farmer without education I would also start thinking such things, it makes a big difference if you know roughly how the brain functions.
    But usually I see normal people who just walk around without really being interested in me (often family members). It can be so realistic that when I wake up I'm not sure whether it was real or not, and if it was a family member I actually have to ask them to be sure. And often it's not really a visual experience, but instead I feel my blanket being pulled off me. So I guess it could be worse, being abducted by aliens doesn't sound like fun :wink:
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    I'm not really sure what the cause is, but as far as I know it's not damaging to your health. I actually wish I got it as much as 3 times a week. Next time you're not sure if you're dreaming just look at your hand and count your fingers, or look at an alarm clock or something (usually it's very hard to read in dreams) When you realise you're dreaming just get up and go do ANYTHING you want! It's your dream and mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Development
    When you realise you're dreaming just get up and go do ANYTHING you want! It's your dream and mind
    yea that'd be interesting but it doesn't work like that.. ive heard people claim they can do anything in their dreams but for me i dont control it..i just more or less follow it..
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    I used to be able to control my dreams, I can remember thinking, "This is only a dream" - or "I think I'll stop this and dream of something else" - of course that could all have just been part of the dream - damned confusing when you think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
    OK that's easy for me although well over half a century ago, it's the one that has stayed with me [no I do not still have it] - I dreamt that I woke up and went downstairs, as I descended the stairs I notice the ceiling seemen to be marked in dark vivid colours, these squares were changing colour, I told my fathere that the ceiling was was changing colour, he said replied something like "it's only a dream don't worry". Crap eh? well you asked!
    ha that sounds wacky. wacky dreams are good. they are fun. my dreams have been scarey lately...

    you just reminded of another one of my oldest dreams...i walked downstairs and this alien tried to abduct me and i tried to scream out to my mom and dad only i couldn't talk because it was like i had duct tape over my mouth.. (i used to be scared of aliens).

    I notice the ceiling seemen to be marked in dark vivid colours,
    ok it took me a second reading to see you meant "seemed" at first i thought you were talking about something else that was all over the ceiling.
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    I cannot believe I did that??? I usually read my posts through at least once before commiting them, - anyway I remeber the house we lived in at the time so I was between the ages of 9 and 12, this was years before I had such an intimate knowledge of reproductive biology. Yes a typo.

    Shit, what would Frued say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
    I used to be able to control my dreams, I can remember thinking, "This is only a dream" - or "I think I'll stop this and dream of something else" - of course that could all have just been part of the dream - damned confusing when you think about it.
    yea i see what you mean. i have had dreams where i am more or less conscious of my dream then wake up and think now was i really conscious or just dreaming i was consciouss? lol its actualy probly both now that i think about it..

    sometimes in a lucid dream i notice these random memory packets... like a flow of thoughts. ill be thinking something and then in mid sentence (thought) jump to something totally different. this seems almost forced upon me..nothing bad.

    pendragon i can relate a lot with you i think we have practically the same experiences. it sounds like you go through this phenomenon..in your sleep as much as me. for me ive always had it occasionaly but it has really kicked into full gear all of sudden.

    just last night i woke up in a sleep paralysis and it was weird as hell. I was sleeping in my living room with my dog. the kitchen is right by the living room and that is usualy where my dog eats. well i was sleeping there last night and realized that i was awake...and couldnt move (so i said to myself "of course..sleep paralysis..im used to this." so i decided to just ride it out (i think i know what you mean by painful..i get that same feeling). anyway i thought i heard my dog in the kitchen eating so i roll over in my dream but im fully aware of my physical body still sleeping on my back. (which reminds me do you sleep on your back? i seem to get sleep paralysis only when sleeping on my back..) this roll over in my dream was quite "painful." if you can roll your eyes back as far as you can that is what it felt like on my eyes. (i dont think i can open my eyes while i am in sleep paralysis.) wow! back to the dream... next i thought i hear my dog walking over to the kitchen sink and start doing dishes. well i thought if i "snapped out of" my dream i would find my dog in the kitchen with somebody getting water out of the kitchen droor cause that's what i heard. well i snap out of it and find everything dark and dead silent with my dog in his bed asleep.

    also this morning sleep paralysis happened and i heard a lot of birds chirping.. i thought i opened my eyes and saw the sun shining in really bright through the living room windows. i thought i was sleeping while consciously hearing/sensing my surroundings..well this proved false again as i woke up to dead silence and since it was really cloudy today it was still dark in the morning..no sun.

    wow i guess its too late to make a long story short

    hope this helps somehow. i have a lot of experience with this.
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    What I do find amazing is how similar we all are when we 'open up' and talk about it. Whether it's dreams, fears, ambitions, aches and pains or whatever.
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    I agree with megabrain.. I guess when it comes down to it most of us are affraid of and want a lot of the same things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
    I used to be able to control my dreams, I can remember thinking, "This is only a dream" - or "I think I'll stop this and dream of something else" - of course that could all have just been part of the dream - damned confusing when you think about it.
    I've thought about this a lot and I still can't decide. I suppose it's impossible to tell. During lucid dreams I can usually think for myself, I can recall anything as if I were still awake, but whether or I'm actually just dreaming this control I probably will never know. >_<
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    oops clicked 'black and white' thinking it was 'colour'.
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    Must be all that british lager! (since you put a 'u' in colour).

    I do have this damned re-curring dream, (I remember it becuase I awoke during the night) - I am cycling home on a bright sunny day along a shoreline path, I turn a corner only to see infront of me very dark low clouds with several tornadoes, hurricanes and bright blue flashes of lightning, plus lots of rain. The last point of the dream I can remember is thinking "I must find somewhere to shelter".
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