Paranormal stuff

**Zelos** · February 15th, 2007, 02:36 PM

Who belives in anykind of paranormal stuff here? or who many if you want to remain anonyme

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**pseudoscientist** · February 15th, 2007, 03:12 PM

I'm not [..] or [..] enough to say no...

Mod edit: do not start with provocations, they serve no purpose.

**LeavingQuietly** · February 15th, 2007, 03:25 PM

Do you believe in my signature?

February 15th, 2007, 03:47 PM

Beyond the range of normal experience or scientific explanation.

Is my understanding, (from the on-line dictionary) which if it is to be taken as de facto, then the Big Bang was 'Paranormal'

**johnny** · February 15th, 2007, 04:09 PM

-if your talking about like ghosts and shadow people yea i think its bologna
-they did a study referenced from wiki

Electromagnetic fields
Under the right conditions, electromagnetic fields can interfere with the functions of the Temporal lobe; creating altered states of perception in which auditory and visual hallucinations can occur[6].

Using electromagnetic fields, researches have been able to recreate many of the experiences reported during paranormal encounters under laboratory conditions, including those of shadow people.[7][8] Researchers have also documented correlations between variances in naturally-occurring magnetic fields and areas where paranormal events have been reported.[9]

-to be honest somethings can never be explained

February 15th, 2007, 04:12 PM

Any chance of posting the whole link for that quote?

**johnny** · February 15th, 2007, 04:12 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_people
enjoy!!!! :-D

**Zelos** · February 16th, 2007, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by pseudoscientist

I'm not stupid or arrogant enough to say no...

well that i disagree with

**Dilan** · February 16th, 2007, 11:49 AM

I think I believe to a certain extent. I don't want to say 100% yes, but about 60% of it is some what true to me. Well I am saying this because of my own experiences.

**Zelos** · February 16th, 2007, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dilan

I think I believe to a certain extent. I don't want to say 100% yes, but about 60% of it is some what true to me. Well I am saying this because of my own experiences.

what have you experienced? ive experienced some wierd stuff but nothing that isnt explaininble by either mind playing tricks or something else

**Cat1981(England)** · February 16th, 2007, 03:26 PM

Well i am stupid and arrogant enough to say no. NO

I have only had one paranormal experience. I saw santa claws when i was a kid, and i know it was him because my mum saw him as well. Nobody here can tell me that santa doesn't exist because I SAW HIM. Unless someone can give me 100%, undeniable proof that he doesn't exist, i will continue to tell everybody that he does.

Nice idea Zelos, but this thread is going to go the same way as the Telekinesis/Psychokinesis Possible or not? thread. You can't prove that it doesn't exist so it must be true.

**Nevyn** · February 16th, 2007, 03:41 PM

I don't think it was Zelos's intention to prove if it existed, he only wanted to know who believed in it, i don't

**Steve Miller** · February 17th, 2007, 02:42 AM

Reviewing my time over here. Yes, they are alive.

Steve

**Zelos** · February 17th, 2007, 06:03 AM

I have only had one paranormal experience. I saw santa claws when i was a kid, and i know it was him because my mum saw him as well. Nobody here can tell me that santa doesn't exist because I SAW HIM. Unless someone can give me 100%, undeniable proof that he doesn't exist, i will continue to tell everybody that he does.

hahaha thats acctually a funny joke.
if youre born 1981 as your name says this cant be anything but a humoungus joke

Well i am stupid and arrogant enough to say no. NO

nope, youre smart enough to say no

Nice idea Zelos, but this thread is going to go the same way as the Telekinesis/Psychokinesis Possible or not? thread. You can't prove that it doesn't exist so it must be true.

well i just wanted to know how people belive since ive read some statistic wich i want confirmed.

But science dont work "if you cant prove it doesnt exist it does exist" it works the very opposite way "if you cant prove it exist it doesnt exist"

**Dilan** · February 17th, 2007, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by Zelos

Originally Posted by Dilan

I think I believe to a certain extent. I don't want to say 100% yes, but about 60% of it is some what true to me. Well I am saying this because of my own experiences.

what have you experienced? ive experienced some wierd stuff but nothing that isnt explaininble by either mind playing tricks or something else

Well its a little strange, in our language you call it "kanappuwa aviddonawa", which means you make a table to move by various chants. This is used to find dead bodies (say if a person murdered someone) and to catch thieves. Well I can't or have no way of explaining this in science.

February 17th, 2007, 10:51 AM

There are many explanations for what people call 'paranormal' have you investigated them all?

**TruePath** · February 17th, 2007, 12:15 PM

Why would you need to investigate them all in order to form an opinion?
If you found that one paranormal phenomena had some validity, surely that would merit saying you had a belief in the paranormal.
On the conbtrary, if you had investigated one or two and found nothing significant this would nto allow you to say all paranormal phenomena were false.

February 17th, 2007, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by TruePath

Why would you need to investigate them all in order to form an opinion?
If you found that one paranormal phenomena had some validity, surely that would merit saying you had a belief in the paranormal.

You are suggesting that as soon as you find something that 'looks close' you stop looking. I suggest you keep looking and only when none of all the possible scientific explanations provides a possible answer then and only then should you consider it 'paranormal'.

**Zelos** · February 17th, 2007, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dilan

Originally Posted by Zelos

Originally Posted by Dilan

I think I believe to a certain extent. I don't want to say 100% yes, but about 60% of it is some what true to me. Well I am saying this because of my own experiences.

what have you experienced? ive experienced some wierd stuff but nothing that isnt explaininble by either mind playing tricks or something else

Well its a little strange, in our language you call it "kanappuwa aviddonawa", which means you make a table to move by various chants. This is used to find dead bodies (say if a person murdered someone) and to catch thieves. Well I can't or have no way of explaining this in science.

you mean a oujiboard? like those with letters and you hold a thing with a hole in it and it moves around but maybe with a map instead? if so id be glad to give you a explination

You are suggesting that as soon as you find something that 'looks close' you stop looking. I suggest you keep looking and only when none of all the possible scientific explanations provides a possible answer then and only then should you consider it 'paranormal'.

if i agreed more i wouldnt be able to agree more since my quote of agreeing would be filled

**leohopkins** · February 18th, 2007, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by Nevyn

I don't think it was Zelos's intention to prove if it existed, he only wanted to know who believed in it, i don't

I thought you were buddhist ?

anyway....Yes I DO believe in paranormal activity. That is activity that does not have a high probability of happening in day to day life. Nothing can break the universal laws of nature though. I have had quite a few "paranormal" experiences in my life, but at the same time I believe they can and will be scientifically explained oneday.

**Nevyn** · February 18th, 2007, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by leohopkins

I thought you were buddhist ?

I am, but my belief that the next stage as it were, is normal and that the path to enlightenment is normal.

**Zelos** · February 18th, 2007, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by leohopkins

Originally Posted by Nevyn

I don't think it was Zelos's intention to prove if it existed, he only wanted to know who believed in it, i don't

I thought you were buddhist ?

anyway....Yes I DO believe in paranormal activity. That is activity that does not have a high probability of happening in day to day life. Nothing can break the universal laws of nature though. I have had quite a few "paranormal" experiences in my life, but at the same time I believe they can and will be scientifically explained oneday.

no im not buddhist im a atheist. i dont belive in anything that cant been detected, proven or anything like that.

I am, but my belief that the next stage as it were, is normal and that the path to enlightenment is normal.

seems more like youre a Ori

**Nevyn** · February 18th, 2007, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Zelos

no im not buddhist im a atheist. i dont belive in anything that cant been detected, proven or anything like that.

he was talking to me

I am, but my belief that the next stage as it were, is normal and that the path to enlightenment is normal.

seems more like youre a Ori

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I most certainly not an Ori, i don't burn people during prostration

, hmmm then again, it might rid the world of a few people, 'Hallowed are the Ori' hehe, i am a Prior

**Zelos** · February 18th, 2007, 10:41 AM

youre a buddhist? noway

I most certainly not an Ori, i don't burn people during prostration , hmmm then again, it might rid the world of a few people, 'Hallowed are the Ori' hehe, i am a Prior

we both know you dont do that since you already know im going to do that

"Hallowed are zelos"

**VMStudent** · February 18th, 2007, 06:23 PM

I voted "Yes".
Although I live my everyday life totally conected with science and facts I do not exclude the possibility of something "paranormal" going on arround us.
Do you hear radio without a stereo? Do you see television without the proper device? So what guarantees you that there's nothing else arround us that can, under special conditions, manifestate itself through "paranormal activity"?!
That's my point of view...

**Zelos** · February 19th, 2007, 01:25 AM

if it follows the laws of physics it really isnt paranormal in anyway but rather normal stuff not known

**TruePath** · February 22nd, 2007, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by Megabrain

Originally Posted by TruePath

Why would you need to investigate them all in order to form an opinion?
If you found that one paranormal phenomena had some validity, surely that would merit saying you had a belief in the paranormal.

You are suggesting that as soon as you find something that 'looks close' you stop looking. I suggest you keep looking and only when none of all the possible scientific explanations provides a possible answer then and only then should you consider it 'paranormal'.

I am not suggesting that at all. If a hypothesis has some validity it is, ipso facto, valid. If the the topic under debate is whether or not there are any paranormal phenomena (and that is what we were talking about: it was certainly the contention I was dealing with) and we establish that there is at least one paranormal phenomena, then the case is made.