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    How about a warp speed drive?

    NASA Reveals Latest Warp-Drive Ship Designs:

    NASA Reveals Latest Warp-Drive Ship Designs | The Mind Unleashed



    The idea is to compress space in front and expand it behind the ship.


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    Please tell me you don't believe that's real.


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    This thread is causing my IQ to drop at ludicrous speed.
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    ~ Beware the woo woo detector is turned "ON"
    That a group of professional scientists employed by NASA or the Godard Space Center or just anyone could be said to be
    'working on the concept.' Is both fare and true.. No ship is being built. No draft of drawing conceived as real as yet..
    That some artist has manipulated a concept.. of fiction not fact. 'Reset detector.'
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    Don't post jokes in hard science parts of forum. Moved to General.
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    Will she ever learn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    Will she ever learn?

    Apparently not, she still thinks posting links without comment is "discussing science"
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    The link should have been comment enough, that I don't think of this research as a joke.

    White was awarded the
    NASA Exceptional Achievement Medal by the Administrator for his role in getting the Thermal Protection Systemrobotic inspection tools during the Space Shuttle's return to flight.[9] White has also received the Silver Snoopy Award for discovery and disposition of critical damage to the robotic arm prior to the Space Shuttle STS-121 mission.[3]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    The link should have been comment enough, that I don't think of this research as a joke.


    That is because you are woefully ignorant, how is linking to a woo filled blog with pretty pictures and no science not "a joke". Also the bit you have quoted has nothing to do with the research in the OP, yet another example of your nonsensical non sequiturs...
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    Did you even read the OP link? - It is about Mr. White's research. The image in it is an artist's conception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    Did you even read the OP link? - It is about Mr. White's research. The image in it is an artist's conception.
    I did, it contained nothing of merit, it was woo (this is not saying that White's work is woo just the link you chose to post is).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    Did you even read the OP link? - It is about Mr. White's research. The image in it is an artist's conception.
    Mayflow, thanks for drawing this "Alcubierre Drive" concept to my attention. I think the grief you have attracted on this thread is due to your posting, uncritically, a link to a site that, absurdly, drools about "Warp Drive Ship Design", when in fact all we have is highly speculative exploration of a propulsion concept.

    I found this from NASA which seems to put it in context: NASA - Status of "Warp Drive" . Notice the strip across the top of the page. This makes it clear that NASA classifies this idea as in the realm of "speculation", i.e. not even yet science (!). So breathless headlines about "Warp Drive Ship Design" are manifestly idiotic.

    As I understand it, the whole notion rests on a number of currently impossible things, so it is an interesting mathematical idea but nowhere near anything that could be achieved in reality.

    So let's all keep a sense of proportion about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    Did you even read the OP link? - It is about Mr. White's research. The image in it is an artist's conception.
    Mayflow, thanks for drawing this "Alcubierre Drive" concept to my attention. I think the grief you have attracted on this thread is due to your posting, uncritically, a link to a site that, absurdly, drools about "Warp Drive Ship Design", when in fact all we have is highly speculative exploration of a propulsion concept.

    I found this from NASA which seems to put it in context: NASA - Status of "Warp Drive" . Notice the strip across the top of the page. This makes it clear that NASA classifies this idea as in the realm of "speculation", i.e. not even yet science (!). So breathless headlines about "Warp Drive Ship Design" are manifestly idiotic.

    As I understand it, the whole notion rests on a number of currently impossible things, so it is an interesting mathematical idea but nowhere near anything that could be achieved in reality.

    So let's all keep a sense of proportion about this.
    It is experimental, sure. Possible? Unknown for now. Your NASA link I also saw for myself when researching this. What date was it from, though? This is a problem on the net - we find lots of info, but much of it is not current info. To be honest, when doing searches, the search engines give us millions of finds which really do not even have much of anything to do with what we are searching for. It is not always easy to separate the wheat from the chaff, or even the wheat from the GMO wheat.

    Either way, my thought is that the idea of compressing and expanding space is intriguing. What I haven't found so far as how are two large rings of some kind supposed to be able to achieve this? Now White has rewards from NASA for real accomplishments so he must have something to go on. I have more ideas on this too, if some can gain interest in actually discussing rather than calling what I post woo and crap and a joke, and saying I will never learn and that I am not discussing science when they themselves are not discussing science and even quoting themselves on that? At least you actually either knew something of this or researched some of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    Did you even read the OP link? - It is about Mr. White's research. The image in it is an artist's conception.
    Mayflow, thanks for drawing this "Alcubierre Drive" concept to my attention. I think the grief you have attracted on this thread is due to your posting, uncritically, a link to a site that, absurdly, drools about "Warp Drive Ship Design", when in fact all we have is highly speculative exploration of a propulsion concept.

    I found this from NASA which seems to put it in context: NASA - Status of "Warp Drive" . Notice the strip across the top of the page. This makes it clear that NASA classifies this idea as in the realm of "speculation", i.e. not even yet science (!). So breathless headlines about "Warp Drive Ship Design" are manifestly idiotic.

    As I understand it, the whole notion rests on a number of currently impossible things, so it is an interesting mathematical idea but nowhere near anything that could be achieved in reality.

    So let's all keep a sense of proportion about this.
    It is experimental, sure. Possible? Unknown for now. Your NASA link I also saw for myself when researching this. What date was it from, though? This is a problem on the net - we find lots of info, but much of it is not current info. To be honest, when doing searches, the search engines give us millions of finds which really do not even have much of anything to do with what we are searching for. It is not always easy to separate the wheat from the chaff, or even the wheat from the GMO wheat.

    Either way, my thought is that the idea of compressing and expanding space is intriguing. What I haven't found so far as how are two large rings of some kind supposed to be able to achieve this? Now White has rewards from NASA for real accomplishments so he must have something to go on. I have more ideas on this too, if some can gain interest in actually discussing rather than calling what I post woo and crap and a joke, and saying I will never learn and that I am not discussing science when they themselves are not discussing science and even quoting themselves on that? At least you actually either knew something of this or researched some of this.
    No, it is not "experimental". By NASA's own admission it does not yet qualify as science. There is nothing, as yet, that anyone can subject to any kind of physical test. It is a mathematical concept at this stage, that's all. As I also said, it relies on a number of things that are impossible according to the current state of physics.

    NASA has a licence to indulge in a number of highly speculative concepts, of which this is one. That is all fine, as one day some science may come out of it.

    But do not imagine anyone is doing experiments or designing space ships. That is balls.
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