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  1. #1 Electro-Magnetic controlled gyroscope "Kite" design help needed 
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    Recently I was inspired by a gentleman I met at the beach one evening who was flying what appeared to be simply floating glow-sticks in the sky, well over 50 feet above the sand, secured by a fishing reel. I thought it was a Kite, however there was absolutely no wind in the sky. I asked the gentlemen what he was flying and he said it was simply a Gyroscope with an electro-magnetic field controlled by a single lever attached to his rod and reel. When he slid the lever forward, the gyroscope floated further up, and when he slid the lever down the Gyroscope seemed to slowly float down with ease. He said it was very simple, and he began discussing electromagnetic fields of energy and how he came up with this idea, but it was very late and I had to get the kids home to bed. I wish I had gotten his name or some sort of contact information, but I did not. I have gone back to the beach several times hoping to find him again, but I have not seen him in quite some time. I need to learn the science behind this so I can attempt to make my own flying gyroscope kite like this. My children have been on me to make one, but I have no scientific knowledge and don't even understand where to start.

    If someone could teach me the basics of the methods used to make this flight possible, I would greatly appreciate it. Getting it off the ground is one thing, but I don't understand what keeps the perpetual motion of the gyroscope going indefinitely; how it hovers at such high altitude; how the Electro Magnet is conducted through the mono-filament (fishing line). I would really enjoy astonishing my kids with the understanding of how to put one of these together. Please advise if you have any ideas. Thanks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RLaTerra View Post
    I would really enjoy astonishing my kids with the understanding of how to put one of these together. Please advise if you have any ideas. Thanks.
    I'd just buy a kite and put some glow-sticks on it. If he told you it was a perpetual motion electromagnetic glowing antigravity gyroscope he was pulling your leg. It was probably just a kite.


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    Billvon, as a man of science on a forum like this, I am surprised at your response. The assumption that someone was "pulling my leg" simply dismisses all possible scientific theory as to how this was accomplished. You even misquoted what I wrote and remember him saying. He never went into further explanation than that it was a Gyroscope and Electromagnet. He controlled it with a variable power control switch that increased the energy of the magnet to raise it or decreased the energy to lower it. The "Glowing" element was a couple of store bought Glow Sticks tied to the line so he could follow the height of the gyroscope. And No, it was obviously not a kite.

    Now, I am NOT a qualified scientist or physicist who can explain or even argue how this was done...but I am a man of reason who believes that there is a scientific explanation for everything...especially when it comes to Physics. The gentleman never called it a "Perpetual motion electromagnetic glowing antigravity gyroscope". You have taken the various words and terms I used in my post and combined them in one sentence to sound silly.

    What I do know is that the man certainly spoke like a science professor who was trying to teach my kids by visual demonstration how the gyroscope would raise when he increased the power of the electromagnet and come down when he reduced the power of the electromagnet. My assumption is that there was some sort of rotor blades mounted to the gyroscope, and that the gyroscope was what kept the rig balanced. The electromagnet (in theory) could have been forcing the gyroscope to continuously spin with the rate increasing or decreasing based on the variable power sent to the magnet. When he referred to the "Magnetic Field" , this is what I thought could be the answer. The line appeared to be a Monofilament fishing line, however it could have been something else that conducted electricity from the battery to the magnet...this is where I just don't know. I have not experimented with anything yet and I really don't know where to start...but I would like to learn the concept and theory behind this so I could try to repeat the process.
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    There are a number of gyroscopic kites on the market.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=gyro...m=122&ie=UTF-8
    Its the way nature is!
    If you dont like it, go somewhere else....
    To another universe, where the rules are simpler
    Philosophically more pleasing, more psychologically easy
    Prof Richard Feynman (1979) .....

    Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLaTerra View Post
    Billvon, as a man of science on a forum like this, I am surprised at your response. The assumption that someone was "pulling my leg" simply dismisses all possible scientific theory as to how this was accomplished. You even misquoted what I wrote and remember him saying. He never went into further explanation than that it was a Gyroscope and Electromagnet. He controlled it with a variable power control switch that increased the energy of the magnet to raise it or decreased the energy to lower it. The "Glowing" element was a couple of store bought Glow Sticks tied to the line so he could follow the height of the gyroscope. And No, it was obviously not a kite.
    How do you know?

    Now, I am NOT a qualified scientist or physicist who can explain or even argue how this was done...but I am a man of reason who believes that there is a scientific explanation for everything...especially when it comes to Physics.
    Exactly. And a kite is a very reasonable scientific explanation. As is a tethered quadcopter, which (if you were in a playful kind of mood) could be described as an "electromagnetic gyroscope" since it uses electromagnetism and exhibits a bit of gyroscopic moment (cancelled out in most quadcopters.) It could even be a balloon. All of those would fit the facts as you described them.
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