Thread: outdated socialism

There is a ladder and in a ladder some rungs are lower than others. Humans are at the top rung of the ladder. In humans too God created inequality. The concept of all humans are equal is outdated. Inequality is the truth that the socialists do not accept. Socialism is an outdated concept.

Originally Posted by parag29081973

Humans are at the top rung of the ladder.

ONLY from a human perspective.
Ask an octopus who's at the "top". Or a cat...

In humans too God created inequality.

Citation needed.

The concept of all humans are equal is outdated. Inequality is the truth that the socialists do not accept. Socialism is an outdated concept.

So we should just take your word for it?

Originally Posted by parag29081973

There is a ladder and in a ladder some rungs are lower than others. Humans are at the top rung of the ladder. In humans too God created inequality. The concept of all humans are equal is outdated. Inequality is the truth that the socialists do not accept. Socialism is an outdated concept.

Im pretty sure Norway is considered a socialist country, and our country has been awarded "best country to live in" countless times.
Norway has also been awarded "Most happy populace in the world" lots of times. This coupled with Norway having a very high atheist population. Religion is not a big thing here and most people consider it superstitious bullshit. Theres been quite the interest in the correlation between Norwegians being so happy and our almost-non-existing religious beliefs.

However to be fair I think the major factor is population. The higher the population, the less money for each person - meaning more poverty. So though I like the fact we arent very delusional, sorry mean religious... I think the main thing for Norways happiness is oil money coupled with low population.

The USA has a very high population for example, and spends enourmous amounts of money on military. US has also been criticized for using "The worst of capitalism and the worst of socialism", however I dont have any real sources or data to back that up - so that is simply speculation.

In over two years this guy has less than 200 posts....


But I am like still totally sold on his argument!

Originally Posted by Beer w/Straw

In over two years this guy has less than 200 posts....


But I am like still totally sold on his argument!

Forgot to actually mention this lol. But I DO agree with the OP that people are not equal. Both subjectively and objectively both - people have different values (if that could be measured) just as happiness cant be measured scientifically while it is still clear that there are varying degrees of happiness.

Originally Posted by parag29081973

... In humans too God created inequality. ....

In the Bible God expressly forbids eating pork or shellfish but never even bothers to suggest cannibalism might be a bad idea.
Why is that?

Originally Posted by parag29081973

There is a ladder and in a ladder some rungs are lower than others. Humans are at the top rung of the ladder. In humans too God created inequality. The concept of all humans are equal is outdated. Inequality is the truth that the socialists do not accept. Socialism is an outdated concept.

Left-wing, right-wing... A compromise somewhere in the middle always seems best to me. That said, I completely disagree. People are different, and have different strengths and weaknesses... But all people are fundamentally equal, and everyone's rights to basic necessities and opportunities should be protected.

Some are born into and reared in different circumstances - some circumstances better than others - and I just have wonder what kind of philosphies, ideologies, and opinions can lead to this unfortunate problem. Somewhere in the world their could be a gifted child with much more potential than you or me, but was born with a low SES, and probably won't ever get much of anything out of life because of his or her circumstances. If there actually were, we wouldn't be benefiting from their potential either - not unless others chip in to protect his or her needs, and to give that person the opportunity to do something great with their potential. Seems like there are situations where Socialist ideas can be a win-win for everyone - even if you don't think people are fundamentally equal.