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    The darwinism theory is one the most disaster on our age for explaining the himanity and life origin..

    this book explains the deceit of this theory..he wrote:

    Most people think the theory of evolution was first proposed by Charles Darwin, and rests on scientific evidence, observations and experiments. However, the truth is that Darwin was not its originator, and neither does the theory rest on scientific proof. The theory consists of an adaptation to nature of the ancient dogma of materialist philosophy. Although it is not backed up by scientific discoveries, the theory is blindly supported in the name of materialist philosophy."

    book can be found full written in this site without neccessary to download ..

    http://www.harunyahya.com/evolution_specialpreface.php

    and this for "The Collapse of the Theory of Evolution
    in 20 Questions"
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    Oh please not another anti-evolution morron.
    Most people think the theory of evolution was first proposed by Charles Darwin
    yes since it is

    and neither does the theory rest on scientific proof. The theory consists of an adaptation to nature of the ancient dogma of materialist philosophy. Although it is not backed up by scientific discoveries, the theory is blindly supported in the name of materialist philosophy."
    there is a enourmus amount of evidence supporting evolution thats it


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    read the book first ,..but don't talk in the air..
    the darwinsim failed to explain many things..shjowed in this books..

    read the books..
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    That is the biggest pile of rubbish i have ever heared of,

    Darwinism explain without a doubt genetic variation due the environment and mutations and therefore how things can be similar but also DIFFER. A prime exsample of this is on the Galapagos Islands where on each island there are turtles with slightly varying charachteristics.

    By the Bye, that is also where DArwin got his first ideas about evolution from and not Malthus's theory
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    well can u explain to me why did darwinism fails to explains many things..and answer the questions under the dawinism u talking about???
    read the follwoing..

    What do fossils prove?

    Fossils prove that living Creatures have existed in the same way for millions of years without any change or evolution since the moment of their creation..

    Are there many fossils in the world?

    there are nealy 100 million fossils of 250 thousand living speices, 99% of the fossils on Earth have been discovered and they all show the invcalidity of Evolution..

    What is an intermediate form?

    According to the Evolutionists hypothesis which suggests that living creatures evoloved from one anothere there was supposed to be many intermediate forms between any two distinct speices..

    ..Since 99% of the world fossils have been discovered, have intermediate forms been found?

    NOT a single intermediate form has been discovered.The dozen or so fossils claimed by evolutionists to be intermediate forms actully have been revealed to belong to complex creatures of diffrent speices..

    and this is also one of his writes..

    "The theory of evolution, claiming that nature is only an arena for warfare, can in no way explain these examples of devotion. Living things disprove evolution's central claim, clearly and definitely. Natural selection can never explain why a zebra that has just escaped a predators' attack risks its own life by returning to save other members of its endangered herd-nor, for that matter, why the silverside fish should risk death by coming ashore so as to help ensure the survival of their eggs. According to the claims made by evolutionists, natural selection should have eliminated this kind of altruistic behavior long ago. "
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    DELETED did you even think to check on google, click on any of the subjects on this site and find your variance

    http://www.fossilmuseum.net/FossilGalleries.htm

    and what planet do you live on, Zebras going bcak to say members from Lions, complete idiosy,

    So, do you think animals just sprout out of the Earth then?

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    Argument won, Victory for Darwin, haha, so much for 'Intermediats don't exist'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silex7
    read the book first ,..but don't talk in the air..
    the darwinsim failed to explain many things..shjowed in this books..

    read the books..
    ive read plenty of those things and seen all arguments. there is none i havent seen and there is none that have worked against evolution

    Fossils prove that living Creatures have existed in the same way for millions of years without any change or evolution since the moment of their creation..
    they prove by the fact there are animals that had a apearens that is right between 2 animals, logicly it evovled to the middle one then to the later one

    there are nealy 100 million fossils of 250 thousand living speices, 99% of the fossils on Earth have been discovered and they all show the invcalidity of Evolution..
    nope, its just your belife but not the fact. They show evolution works

    According to the Evolutionists hypothesis which suggests that living creatures evoloved from one anothere there was supposed to be many intermediate forms between any two distinct speices..

    ..Since 99% of the world fossils have been discovered, have intermediate forms been found?
    yes and they are the fossiles

    if you want ever intermediate form i want you to divide 1 with 2 x many times where x is a intigier that is less than infinite and yet get absolute 0
    you can divide and divide but you´ll never get 0, the same here. you can get many intermediate forms but not all of them and this is cause not all is fossilized


    You are a creationist that got no organ that alone takes 20% of your energy and think that humanity is so special but news flash, humanity isnt. You got the same instincts as any animal
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    Silex, go educate yourself. Try starting here:

    29+ evidences for evolution

    I'm sure your church group just loves that book, but I suggest reading something factual instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevyn
    Argument won, Victory for Darwin, haha, so much for 'Intermediats don't exist'
    insult members?..and nothing about mockery?!!

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    Darwinism theory deny god existance and this is refused by the three religions..
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    Darwinism theory deny god existance and this is refused by the three religions..
    wow we got the great sherlock holmes among us
    this is science and religion has nothing to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silex7
    Darwinism theory deny god existance and this is refused by the three religions..
    hmm, which do you think has more wieght? the fact that science is right because it is based on fact and observation, or the belief in something which has neither been proven or presented evidence
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    damn, been away and missed this one i found those links really funny(they were meant to be funny werent they?)

    i loved the same argument creationists use of where the transitional fossils between lizards and birds, wheres the fossils that are half bird, half lizard

    sorry but i cant read any more of that bs from another islamic nutbag(meaning the author of that site :wink: )
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    I glanced at the book and it seems hilarious, the guy who wrote it seems very full of himself and hypocritical, he claim Darwinism is a lie and is being forced upon us yet is he not trying to do the very same thing? he is also ver contradictory of himself, here he is, banging on about evolution being false and then he goes and says this "true nature of the theory of evolution is very different from" is he not agreeing about evolution? he also claims that it's impossible for cells to form complex beings in nature, this is not true IT TOOK MILLIONS OF YEARS TO EVOLVE.

    that is just the up to the first picture of the book, I believ i have proven my point
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    yeah creationists seem to have this view of one animal giving birth to another and cant get to grips with the slow progression of evolution

    look at some radical bursts in humans with things like downs syndrome or Achondroplasia, both are born to "normal" parents and show quite major physical differences, if these difference were an advantage over other humans in earlier times then this trait would have spread

    and thats without going into the small minute changes that go on through natural selection
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    and who were the insane person saying humans are intelligent?
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    so is this the end of this discussion? shame, i was rather enjoying it
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    yeah its fun but nothing is more fun than crushing morrons with facts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silex7
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    Most people think the theory of evolution was first proposed by Charles Darwin, and rests on scientific evidence, observations and experiments. However, the truth is that Darwin was not its originator, and neither does the theory rest on scientific proof. The theory consists of an adaptation to nature of the ancient dogma of materialist philosophy. Although it is not backed up by scientific discoveries, the theory is blindly supported in the name of materialist philosophy."
    You can find ANYTHING in books---your book is an example! You Bible is another one.

    I have been known to enter religious groups and when I see that they were set up for Christians to discuss their beliefs and problems among themselves, I back out. I don't go and intrude on their communion and irritate them. I dislike the thought of disturbing their sense of community.

    It is the same here. This is a SCIENCE forum and it is rude to come in and spout this old hack religious nonsense unless you go to the RELIGION subject where you would be most welcome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charles brough
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    Most people think the theory of evolution was first proposed by Charles Darwin, and rests on scientific evidence, observations and experiments. However, the truth is that Darwin was not its originator, and neither does the theory rest on scientific proof. The theory consists of an adaptation to nature of the ancient dogma of materialist philosophy. Although it is not backed up by scientific discoveries, the theory is blindly supported in the name of materialist philosophy."
    You can find ANYTHING in books---your book is an example! You Bible is another one.

    I have been known to enter religious groups and when I see that they were set up for Christians to discuss their beliefs and problems among themselves, I back out. I don't go and intrude on their communion and irritate them. I dislike the thought of disturbing their sense of community.

    It is the same here. This is a SCIENCE forum and it is rude to come in and spout this old hack religious nonsense unless you go to the RELIGION subject where you would be most welcome.


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    they are more than welcome it makes it alot more fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by charles brough
    It is the same here. This is a SCIENCE forum and it is rude to come in and spout this old hack religious nonsense unless you go to the RELIGION subject where you would be most welcome.
    Well not quite charles, in my over zealous capacity as a moderator I move any 'religion v science' thread to general discussion. Since the forum has a religious section the topic is valid. If you allow evolution into religion or, creation into science sections the sparks fly, and the amount of 'mod work' gets out of hand.
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