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Thread: Creationists Demand Airtime On 'Cosmos' For The Sake Of Balance

  1. #1 Creationists Demand Airtime On 'Cosmos' For The Sake Of Balance 
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    I read this story and suddenly I find half of my keyboard embedded in my face.

    The Creationist group Answers In Genesis, which was already incensed about Neil deGrasse Tyson’s revival of Cosmos, is now complaining that the show lacks scientific balance because it fails to provide airtime for evolution deniers.

    Danny Faulkner of Answers In Genesis and the Creation Museum appeared on The Janet Mefferd Show yesterday to criticize Cosmos for not providing airtime for Creationism adherents. When Mefferd asked if Cosmos will “ever give a Creationist any time,” Faulkner responded by lamenting that “Creationists aren’t even on the radar screen for them, they wouldn’t even consider us plausible at all.”

    Mefferd agreed that the show isn’t being very fair and balanced: “Boy, but when you have so many scientists who simply do not accept Darwinian evolution it seems to me that that might be something to throw in there, you know, the old, ‘some scientists say this, others disagree and think this,’ but that’s not even allowed.”

    “Consideration of special Creation is definitely not open for discussion it would seem,” Faulkner added.

    Arguing that evolution, the foundation of modern biology, and one of many theological beliefs on human creation are simply “two sides” that merit competing time on a science program is much like the equally absurd argument Creationists use when trying to undermine the teaching of evolution in public schools.
    The story can be found here at Right Wing Watch.

    Personally, I'd love to learn more about the Egyptian, Greek and Norse creation stories... but not while watching Cosmos.

    (I'm not even going to mention the "so many scientists who simply do not accept Darwinian evolution" comment.)


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    There should be a mythology channel for sure.


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    The creos and IDiots have virtually every and all Sundays on their own shows where they can spew their "balance" concerning Cosmos. If there's no room for rationalists on their innumerable shows, then there's no time for anti-sciencers on Cosmos.
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    suddenly I find half of my keyboard embedded in my face
    There are times when I regret my decision not to set up a mail order service offering remedies needed by rational people on the internet.

    There's a lot of money to be made for repairing monitors and keyboards afflicted by sprays of coffee or the debris of exploding mouthfuls of snacks.

    And there should be a range of products to soothe nasal passages inflamed by snorfles of hot drinks.

    Biggest profits are guaranteed from treatments for bruises and abrasions, aches and pains, from repeated and/ or violent head desking, jaw dropping and face palming.

    Keeping a cushion between you and your keyboard is an excellent prevention measure, before reading ...

    ... this item on the same topic. A Discovery Institute hack watches Cosmos – Pharyngula
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    Luckily they dont get any air time over here. Songs of Praise airs on a Sunday but all in all our public tv seems to be more secular than anything. Thankfully
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daecon View Post
    I read this story and suddenly I find half of my keyboard embedded in my face.

    The Creationist group Answers In Genesis, which was already incensed about Neil deGrasse Tyson’s revival of Cosmos, is now complaining that the show lacks scientific balance because it fails to provide airtime for evolution deniers.

    Danny Faulkner of Answers In Genesis and the Creation Museum appeared on The Janet Mefferd Show yesterday to criticize Cosmos for not providing airtime for Creationism adherents. When Mefferd asked if Cosmos will “ever give a Creationist any time,” Faulkner responded by lamenting that “Creationists aren’t even on the radar screen for them, they wouldn’t even consider us plausible at all.”

    Mefferd agreed that the show isn’t being very fair and balanced: “Boy, but when you have so many scientists who simply do not accept Darwinian evolution it seems to me that that might be something to throw in there, you know, the old, ‘some scientists say this, others disagree and think this,’ but that’s not even allowed.”

    “Consideration of special Creation is definitely not open for discussion it would seem,” Faulkner added.

    Arguing that evolution, the foundation of modern biology, and one of many theological beliefs on human creation are simply “two sides” that merit competing time on a science program is much like the equally absurd argument Creationists use when trying to undermine the teaching of evolution in public schools.
    The story can be found here at Right Wing Watch.

    Personally, I'd love to learn more about the Egyptian, Greek and Norse creation stories... but not while watching Cosmos.

    (I'm not even going to mention the "so many scientists who simply do not accept Darwinian evolution" comment.)
    Actually I think it is the "many-scientists-do-not-accept-evolution" meme that these people REALLY want to propagate. It's total shit of course.

    Who the hell is Janet Mefford, anyway? Sounds like an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    There should be a mythology channel for sure.
    Isn't that what Fox News is for?
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    If I go to bed watching a certain network, I wake up to stuff like Joyce Meyer. Oddly, I never see those kinds of shows giving time to scientists to explain their side of the story. I guess this isn't a two way street they want to pave.
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    My vocabulary is inadequate to capture the news(*) article, so I will use a cartoon instead:




    (*) The usage of the word "news" is debatable.
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    ~ I have had a encouraging insight into the mindset of the fruitloop crazy's thinking.. We, the exponents of scientific theory can never rest., but the fact that the religious zealots let others think for them is their downfall. With authors of the ilk of Richard Dawkings and Krauss, and with education reaching out with Neil deGrasse Tyson. Cosmos might not be the answer to all our issues, but it's winning more friends than Russell Crowe's NOAH... We had a family gathering and some of the extended family are of a religious persuasion. They wanted to argue the creation against evolution.. and some of the arguments were so silly we need not fear such. So do not go banging your head on the key bd.. you might break it. They do not seem able to equate science over faith. Even if a green horned unicorn came bounding down the street science can argue a genetic oddity and still look you in the face.. Science is science, always.
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    Science is science, always.
    Your resolve may be tested next week. The full IPCC report will be released on Monday.

    Self protection might require a stern determination not to click on multitudes of interesting items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daecon View Post
    I read this story and suddenly I find half of my keyboard embedded in my face.
    Did you fall asleep at your computer again?
    ...........................................

    Personally, I'd love to learn more about the Egyptian, Greek and Norse creation stories
    Learning the stories of our ancestors enlightens us as to the greater human psyche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    There should be a mythology channel for sure.
    Isn't that what Fox News is for?
    FOX funded cosmos and gave the team free reign,artistic license and money
    which was much more than pbs was willing to do.

    Or: Did you already know that John, and, you really do think that FOX should give equal time to religious perspectives?

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