Most Ridiculous Threads

[Markus Hanke]

I sometimes quite enjoy browsing through old threads in the trash can, pseudo or personal theories sections; some of those threads are really quite ridiculous, and then there is the odd one that really takes the biscuit. I'd like to nominate this one :

http://www.thescienceforum.com/perso...-crippled.html

Enjoy

[PhDemon]

This one:

http://www.thescienceforum.com/trash...-together.html

or any of the others started by orloffji, the levels of arrogant ignorance (or is it ignorant arrogance) are truly astounding.

Also any thread started by theorist or Noa Drake are pretty ridculous and good for a laugh.

[Harold14370]

I sometimes quite enjoy browsing through old threads in the trash can, pseudo or personal theories sections; some of those threads are really quite ridiculous, and then there is the odd one that really takes the biscuit. I'd like to nominate this one :

http://www.thescienceforum.com/perso...-crippled.html

Enjoy

Happeh is a classic, all right. He had several sockpuppets.
http://www.thescienceforum.com/perso...turbation.html
The Pseudoscience of Energy

I think Urod was my favorite crackpot of all time, though.
A timid attempt to the Unifying understanding of Nature

[Markus Hanke]

This one rates pretty highly too :

http://www.thescienceforum.com/trash...p-da-woop.html

[exchemist]

I sometimes quite enjoy browsing through old threads in the trash can, pseudo or personal theories sections; some of those threads are really quite ridiculous, and then there is the odd one that really takes the biscuit. I'd like to nominate this one :

http://www.thescienceforum.com/perso...-crippled.html

Enjoy

I think, for its eclectic mix of sheer preposterousness and triviality, this one has to have high marks: http://www.thescienceforum.com/trash...one-death.html

even though the troll who posted it was winding us up. The notion of somebody's thymus gland bursting out, "Alien"- like and throttling him, is irresistible.

[adelady]

Oh my giddy aunt.

A few contenders came to my mind - but this lot are completely, utterly absurd.

[Flick Montana]

Most forums have a Wall of Shame for stuff like this. Always good for a laugh.

[KALSTER]

Three people come to mind, all of which would be before a lot of you came here.

Archaeologist: http://www.thescienceforum.com/membe...aeologist.html
StreamSystems: http://www.thescienceforum.com/membe...amsystems.html
WilliamMcCormick: http://www.thescienceforum.com/membe...mccormick.html

The first one was probably the most infuriating. StreamSystems made a million sock puppets and pushed the art of talking gibberish to a new level, archaeologist was a religious maniac and William was a soft tempered, but probably insane self-taught-bollocks guy.

[PhDemon]

Most forums have a Wall of Shame for stuff like this. Always good for a laugh.

I suggest his thread being made a sticky and the title changed to "Wall of Woo" or "Crackpot Corner"

[PhDemon]

The resident acid head should also get an hounourable mention:

http://www.thescienceforum.com/pseud...red-light.html

[exchemist]

The resident acid head should also get an hounourable mention:

http://www.thescienceforum.com/pseud...red-light.html

YES! This one just won't die, in spite of its self-evident absurdity. Just scan the entries: it goes on and on, with everybody wanting to to shove his or her oar in, getting more and more steamed up, almost a self-parody of the dynamics of discussion forums (fora?). In retrospect, it's hilarious.

[dan hunter]

The resident acid head should also get an hounourable mention:

http://www.thescienceforum.com/pseud...red-light.html

YES! This one just won't die, in spite of its self-evident absurdity. Just scan the entries: it goes on and on, with everybody wanting to to shove his or her oar in, getting more and more steamed up, almost a self-parody of the dynamics of discussion forums (fora?). In retrospect, it's hilarious.

Even after pulse 1233 removed his posts it is still funny.

[exchemist]

I sometimes quite enjoy browsing through old threads in the trash can, pseudo or personal theories sections; some of those threads are really quite ridiculous, and then there is the odd one that really takes the biscuit. I'd like to nominate this one :

http://www.thescienceforum.com/perso...-crippled.html

Enjoy

Actually, this little one today made me roar with laughter. I initially compared it to Monty Python, but on reflection it is more like some of the exchanges in "This Is Spinal Tap" : http://www.thescienceforum.com/mecha...ost541631.html

[cosmictraveler]

I enjoyed spuriousmonkey's rants and raves when he was around.

it is the monkey

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

This recent thread from (banned) member davidhannon is the most ridiculous thread I can think of: Basic Theophysiology

[wegs]

The Big Foot one was very funny!

[Flick Montana]

This recent thread from (banned) member davidhannon is the most ridiculous thread I can think of: Basic Theophysiology

Wow, that guy was creepy. He was a strange mix of pseudoscience and Jehovah's witness with just a dash of pyramid scheme salesman.

[Markus Hanke]

This recent thread from (banned) member davidhannon is the most ridiculous thread I can think of: Basic Theophysiology

Wow, that guy was creepy. He was a strange mix of pseudoscience and Jehovah's witness with just a dash of pyramid scheme salesman.

A complete and utter nutcase. A funny thread though !

[PhDemon]

How about this nonsense from fiveworlds:

http://www.thescienceforum.com/trash-can/36591-960.html

a guy who should have "Dunning-Kruger test case" tattooed on his forehead.

Also who could forget the deluded muppet that was mudbone:

http://www.thescienceforum.com/trash...lp-me-plz.html

[Markus Hanke]

Come to think of it, we haven't had any anti-relativity/pro-aether threads in the last few weeks; they seem to come and go in waves. I think we are overdue now.

[Strange]

It is a shame silverSea didn't stick around. He was hilarious:
Planning Science Exploration Expadition to the North Pole

[exchemist]

Come to think of it, we haven't had any anti-relativity/pro-aether threads in the last few weeks; they seem to come and go in waves. I think we are overdue now.

They are all over at Sciforums, giving the few remaining scientifically literate people hell.

Thanks to the higher standard of excretory power here at The Science Forum (due to the readership, which in turn is ultimately due to the moderation policy), such people don't get much of a hearing before they are cast into the outer darkness of Personal Theories, or Pseudoscience - which nobody reads except to get a cheap laugh when they are bored.

Having said which, I'm sure you are right that some nutter will soon try his or her luck……

First one to spot it say "BINGO!"

[Markus Hanke]

They are all over at Sciforums

I am not surprised. The place was effectively abandoned by the mods and admins, which is why I stopped participating there a while back. It's become a rally point for cranks and crackpots, and the likes of Farsight.

[exchemist]

They are all over at Sciforums

I am not surprised. The place was effectively abandoned by the mods and admins, which is why I stopped participating there a while back. It's become a rally point for cranks and crackpots, and the likes of Farsight.

Who is in vintage form there right now……...

But I must admit, the odd crank does occasionally stir up a good debate - you just don't want more than one at a time or it lowers the tone of the place...

[Markus Hanke]

Who is in vintage form there right now……...

I presume you are referring to Farsight. I have to admit he is probably one of the most persistent cranks I have come across; he has been proliferating the same old nonsense for the better part of a decade now. It is actually amazing how one can not learn anything new in all that time; a complete mystery to me.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Another thread (from member Jessiegirl) posted in the Pseudoscience section was also quite fringe: Morgellons - I'm a real live one
It contains elements of science denial, Big Pharma and chemtrails.

[PhDemon]

This one is shaping up to be a contender... Since my silly ideas of trying to fit links to apprpopriate topics...

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Most forums have a Wall of Shame for stuff like this. Always good for a laugh.

I suggest his thread being made a sticky and the title changed to "Wall of Woo" or "Crackpot Corner"

You need more than a corner to cover all the people who ended up in the Trash Can (or in Personal Theories and Alternative Ideas or Pseudoscience).

Another thread (by member Ozolnyex) was also estranged from reality: Secondary Time

[PhDemon]

They are all very dense so you can fit quite a lot of them in a small volume

[Daecon]

It's hard to tell which threads are "not even wrong", "wronger than wrong" or "not even wronger than wrong".

There should be a public health warning that reads: "Perusal of these threads can cause lower IQ, irritability and has been linked to disorders of the nervous system and bowels."

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

It's hard to tell which threads are "not even wrong", "wronger than wrong" or "not even wronger than wrong".

There should be a public health warning that reads: "Perusal of these threads can cause lower IQ, irritability and has been linked to disorders of the nervous system and bowels."

I would just ask member John Galt if he could dress up like Gandalf and shout: "Fly, you fools!" whenever someone enters those sub-fora.

[Noa Drake]

This one:

http://www.thescienceforum.com/trash...-together.html

or any of the others started by orloffji, the levels of arrogant ignorance (or is it ignorant arrogance) are truly astounding.

Also any thread started by theorist or Noa Drake are pretty ridculous and good for a laugh.

You can call this rediculous, that is your right, but i will stand by this, concerning GR :

Anyone who believes that time itself slows down, be it locally, belongs in the Dark Ages,
my solid oppinion and my right.

Time cannot slow down because it does not exist in reality, only in our minds as a structuring tool.
There is only the succession of events, dry and unspectacular as it may seem.

Yes, objekts can have their systems slowed down, or their constituents kept together longer, for instance be means of denser surroundings.

And this will at some point in the future become 'the new Galilei case', where intelligent people such as many of you are, will be proven wrong believing 'the earth is flat'. Science itself will show the Planck level mechanisms for this dynamic, as technology progresses.

It is extemely sad to see people misguided in such a profound way.
And you keep applauding each other every day again, celebrating the status quo,
instead of discussing on this forum the real issues at hand.


I presented my hypothesis for a discrete medium for gravity including the time issue,
by email, as i said earlier, to a worldclass scientist.
He replied me 3 times, amongst others sayingthat "such a dynamic has already been understood, but no proof can by delivered to this day, hense for the moment, we stick to what General Relativity provides on these matters". (a translation to English)
And that is what i call a fair answer.

My ideas for a model of a discrete medium for gravity behaving as a vortex around a spinning planet, and the centripedal force derived from a parallel with a hydrophobic dynamic etc,
are not crazy or rubbish. And they consist of very decent logic. They are founded on the basis of papers by professional scientists such as Verlinde and Oriti, not the crackpot scene.
But i will agree to the fact that they are unproven, yet not more unproven then the 'continuous nature of spacetime' or 'time itself slowing down'.



(Some of you make a habit of it to quote bits out of context, well, everybody needs a hobby...)

[PhDemon]

Thanks for proving my point. Can someone please send this off-topic pseudoscience by ND to Trash? Thanks. Note to casual readers, check out the Baez crackpot score for the post above. That should tell you all you need to know about the validity of these "ideas"...

[Markus Hanke]

Anyone who believes that time itself slows down, be it locally, belongs in the Dark Ages, my solid oppinion.

Time cannot slow down because it does not exist in reality, only in our minds as a structuring tool.

And this will at some point in the future become 'the new Galilei case'

Your personal opinions have been noted

[KALSTER]

Noa, please stick to your own threads to peddle your ideas please. I am removing the bulk of your text, but you can access it by clicking the "edited by" bit at the bottom and posting it in an appropriate place. Thanks

[Noa Drake]

It was PhDemon who referred to me in this thread, otherwise i would not have responded, let that be very clear.
Somebody called my ideas rediculous in this thread , i had a right to reply. Taking out my reply is not very fair.

[PhDemon]

Yes, it was on topic as an example of a ridiculous poster who makes ridiculous threads, not an invitation to repost your ridiculous nonsense here (although doing so nicely proved my point).

[Noa Drake]

Yes, it was on topic as an example of a ridiculous poster who makes ridiculous threads, not an invitation to repost your ridiculous nonsense here (although doing so nicely proved my point).

There now, everybody happy.

[Noa Drake]

Yes, it was on topic as an example of a ridiculous poster who makes ridiculous threads, not an invitation to repost your ridiculous nonsense here (although doing so nicely proved my point).

Pesonally i think you make yourself rediculous with most of your 'non-content', 'non-progress' posts,
attacking others all the time, name calling, you're like a child, very rediculous for a grown up to behave that way.
I have showed this ongoing 'game' on this forum to people who are not on this forum, just to illustrate this shamefull side of the forum.
> And that's right on topic !

Or will you also deny me the right to share my ideas on which threads are rediculous, nicely introduced by a moderator in the title here ?

[PhDemon]

You're entitled to your opinion but the number of likes my posts that point out bullshit receive puts you in a minority on this as well as on your fringe pseudoscience. Your nonsense has been shown to be such repeatedly by myself and others in the threads you started before your hissy fit when you said you were leaving the forum (as accurate as your other assertions seeing as you're back, again). I won't deny you your right to post ideas but we have the right to tell you they are unsupported bullshit and that you behave like a deluded crank, that isn't childish, it's a public service. As for your opinion on which threads/posters are ridiculous again you're entitled to your opinion but I think you need to to remove the beam from your own eye before criticizing the speck in the eye of others.

[Noa Drake]

Fair enough in a thread here that consists of oppinions.

There are to few 'hissy fits' around here, to few dissident views, and most of them are considered rediculous.
Whereas for many many people, the claims of GR theory on 'time itself slowing down',
are considered rediculous (That's on topic).
Even many scientists suspect it to be an incorrect assessment, but lack the courage to have a public discussion on the topic. ( I'd be very interested in what professional scientists have to say amongst each other about this matter 'behind the scene', which i am sure they do.)

[PhDemon]

There are to few 'hissy fits' around here, to few dissident views, and most of them are considered rediculous.

For very good reasons, they are ridiculous, take your nonsense for example, not a scrap of evidence, just assertions and you even admitted no amount of evidence would change your mind. If that is not a good example of "ridiculous" you need to buy a better dictionary as your definition of the word differs from mine.

Whereas for many many people, the claims of GR theory on 'time itself slowing down',
are considered rediculous (That's on topic).

Only those who don't understand it. It has been experimentally measured (http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/.../nphys778.html for example), the fact you think reality is "rediculous" is why you are a crank.

Even many scientists suspect it to be an incorrect assessment, but lack the courage to have a public discussion on the topic.

Citation needed

( I'd be very interested in what professional scientists have to say amongst each other about this matter 'behind the scene', which i am sure they do.)

Translation: I have no evidence but this assumption fits my fantasy so it MUST be true.

You are now attempting to derail this thread into another of your anti-relativity fantasy physics rambles, not interested.

[KALSTER]

Fair enough in a thread here that consists of oppinions.

There are to few 'hissy fits' around here, to few dissident views, and most of them are considered rediculous.
Whereas for many many people, the claims of GR theory on 'time itself slowing down',
are considered rediculous (That's on topic).
Even many scientists suspect it to be an incorrect assessment, but lack the courage to have a public discussion on the topic. ( I'd be very interested in what professional scientists have to say amongst each other about this matter 'behind the scene', which i am sure they do.)

Regardless, this isn't the thread to voice your opinion on GR. You have your own thread for that.

[Noa Drake]

PhDemon :
" Only those who don't understand it. It has been experimentally measured (http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/.../nphys778.html for example), the fact you think reality is "rediculous" is why you are a crank."

Obviously these experiments have a very high level of accuracy, but they do not prove the real point.
> The conclusions do not at all reflect an objective scientifically valid method of assessment, or 'proof' of any kind : (simplified here) :
"Clocks have slowed down, so time itself has slowed down."
The correct and only valid objective observation is that "something - we don't know what just yet - has caused the clocks to slow down".
Concluding that it was time itself as the cause of it all, is pure speculation, something you fight against on this forum every day.

> 2 standards of assessment clearly : One for GR and one for alternative ideas



Ok Kalster, i've had my say on the rediculousness of this that and the other, i'll be on my way here.

[PhDemon]

PhDemon :
Obviously these experiments have a very high level of accuracy, but they do not prove the real point.

I think you'll find it does.

> The conclusions do not at all reflect an objective scientifically valid method of assessment, or 'proof' of any kind : (simplified here) :
"Clocks have slowed down, so time itself has slowed down."
The correct and only valid objective observation is that "something - we don't know what just yet - has caused the clocks to slow down".
Concluding that it was time itself as the cause of it all, is pure speculation, something you fight against on this forum every day.

Just more standard crank nonsense.

> 2 standards of assessment clearly : One for GR and one for alternative ideas

No, just the application of the scientific method in both cases.

Ok Kalster, i've had my say on the rediculousness of this that and the other, i'll be on my way here.

Good, unless you are willing to be rational please keep your word (this time).

[Daecon]

Threadception. This thread is reaching a point where it can self-reference itself.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Threadception. This thread is reaching a point where it can self-reference itself.

What if I told you that inception is the practice of putting an idea in the subconsciousness of the dreamer,
and not the phenomenon of a dream within a dream?

[Daecon]

Threadception. This thread is reaching a point where it can self-reference itself.

What if I told you that inception is the practice of putting an idea in the subconsciousness of the dreamer,
and not the phenomenon of a dream within a dream?

I'd ask you where you got the idea to post that comment.

Then I'd take the credit.