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Thread: We Have Infinite Energy, And We STILL DONT HAVE FTL

  1. #1 We Have Infinite Energy, And We STILL DONT HAVE FTL 
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    Just saying, even if we somehow found a source of infinite energy, and we could harness it, we still couldn't go light speed. Let alone FTL.

    The reason? Radiation becomes very intense, like scorching intense, at light speed, or even close, let alone faster, your ship would melt/get vaporized.

    So, say we had a source of infinite energy, what could we use it for, since light speed and FTL is still out of reach?


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    Can we keep this nonsense in the sci-fi section please?


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    I don't answer to you, nor your buddy.

    The mods decide that. And you'r not a mod, so you may as well stop trying to act like one. Nor should you be one.
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    Fine, play make believe. Post reported as not physics.
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    Moderator Action: Too lightweight for physics section. Moved to General Discussion.
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    Fair enough. The other guy needs to shut up though. Seriously.
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    if people learned not to play make believe in the hard science area I might think about it. Did you actually read the forum descriptions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lorbo View Post
    Just saying, even if we somehow found a source of infinite energy, and we could harness it, we still couldn't go light speed. Let alone FTL.

    The reason? Radiation becomes very intense, like scorching intense, at light speed, or even close, let alone faster, your ship would melt/get vaporized.

    So, say we had a source of infinite energy, what could we use it for, since light speed and FTL is still out of reach?
    Not only that, just imagine what would happen if you ran into anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan hunter View Post
    Not only that, just imagine what would happen if you ran into anything.
    This was addressed by Arthur C. Clarke in his novel Songs of Distant Earth. The ship had a huge plate of water ice up front, made from thousands of interlocking hexagonal slabs of water ice. The ship traveled at a very large percentage of the speed of light (c) -- I don't remember exactly. This ice shield ablated during the trip and the crew had to stop and replenish it periodically. The ship had something like a million passengers in cryonic sleep. I don't think it was mentioned but a very large object would probably destroy the shield and the ship.

    BTW, for those that like Randevous with Rama by Arthur Clarke, you'll probably also like Songs of Distant Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PumaMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dan hunter View Post
    Not only that, just imagine what would happen if you ran into anything.
    This was addressed by Arthur C. Clarke in his novel Songs of Distant Earth. The ship had a huge plate of water ice up front, made from thousands of interlocking hexagonal slabs of water ice. The ship traveled at a very large percentage of the speed of light (c) -- I don't remember exactly. This ice shield ablated during the trip and the crew had to stop and replenish it periodically. The ship had something like a million passengers in cryonic sleep. I don't think it was mentioned but a very large object would probably destroy the shield and the ship.

    BTW, for those that like Randevous with Rama by Arthur Clarke, you'll probably also like Songs of Distant Earth.

    "The Ramans do everything in threes………….."

    A good story, ending with a reactionless drive: "There goes Newton's 3rd Law".

    But he only wrote one sequel, didn't he?
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    He co-authored, with Gentry Lee, Rama II, The Garden of Rama and Rama Revealed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    He co-authored, with Gentry Lee, Rama II, The Garden of Rama and Rama Revealed.
    Oh, I didn't know that, thanks. I read the 2nd one and felt it was OK but lacked something compared to the first, possibly due to it being co-authored, so I admit I didn't really look out for further sequels - just thought I might have heard about them. Are the others any good?
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    I read them a long time ago, so I recall nothing specific. The difficulty for me is that I thought Rendezvous with Rama one of the best SF novels of all time. Its approach to aliens was groundbreaking for the time of its publication and it woud have been remarkable if Sir Arthur had been able to match the orginality, drama and sense of wonder of the original. So, regardless of how good the sequels may be on an objective scale they pale in comparison with the original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    I read them a long time ago, so I recall nothing specific. The difficulty for me is that I thought Rendezvous with Rama one of the best SF novels of all time. Its approach to aliens was groundbreaking for the time of its publication and it woud have been remarkable if Sir Arthur had been able to match the orginality, drama and sense of wonder of the original. So, regardless of how good the sequels may be on an objective scale they pale in comparison with the original.
    Certainly made a big impression on me when I read it in my mid teens. That sense of wonder is really something I have only gotten from good SF. I think I'll seek out the whole series again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    I read them a long time ago, so I recall nothing specific. The difficulty for me is that I thought Rendezvous with Rama one of the best SF novels of all time. Its approach to aliens was groundbreaking for the time of its publication and it woud have been remarkable if Sir Arthur had been able to match the orginality, drama and sense of wonder of the original. So, regardless of how good the sequels may be on an objective scale they pale in comparison with the original.
    Exactly! What a clever book it was. And of course it is always hard for sequels to live up to the original.
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