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    Those of you who may recognize me from around the forums may have noticed I've not been online for the last couple of weeks.

    I've been in the hospital.

    I was taken in on Monday with stomach pains and vomiting, and it turned out that I needed an operation to remove the end of my small intestine. It's highly likely I have Crohn's disease, and am just waiting for the results to be officially confirmed in a couple of weeks.

    Things went pretty well all-in-all and I've just been discharged and have returned home, 11 days later.

    It's good to be back.


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    Glad to hear your doing better now and good to see you back again. How long before you know about your Crohn's problem and what are the remedies for it?


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    Strewth! Hope you're feeling better.

    And you're in for a tiresome period working out which foods do and don't exacerbate the condition for you. You'll also find yourself in the unusual position of needing vitamin and mineral supplements because your super-sensitive digestive system won't allow you to absorb all the nutrients you need even if you come up with a reasonable diet in the end.

    The biggest problem is that there is no one best diet plan for Crohn's sufferers. Each individual has to work out what they can and can't tolerate and to get used to eating frequently even if you don't feel like it.
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    Abdominal surgery is pretty serious. Glad that you seem to be on the mend, Daecon. Maybe you will consider doing a thread on your condition, how it came about, diagnosis, prognosis, any history of it in your family, what changes you now have to make etc. The reason I suggest it is that Crohn's and other bowel disorders affect quite a number of people and story telling and shared experience is one of the more effective ways by which our species learns.

    Just a thought because you seem capable of objective presentation by posts that I have read.

    Best wishes for a speedy recovery and thank you for letting us know where you had vanished to.
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    Fingers crossed mate.
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    I hope everything turns out good!
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    I hope you get well soon. Did your physician prescribe any medication (not for the recovery from surgery but) for the management of the affliction?

    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    The biggest problem is that there is no one best diet plan for Crohn's sufferers. Each individual has to work out what they can and can't tolerate and to get used to eating frequently even if you don't feel like it.
    I'd read up on the Crohn's disease entry in wikipedia, and I was surprised to find that there was a reference to a supplementary TCM treatment, any thoughts on it validity?

    Acupuncture and moxibustion in the treatment of active Crohn's disease: a randomized controlled study
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    Hoping for a good recovery for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daecon View Post
    Those of you who may recognize me from around the forums may have noticed I've not been online for the last couple of weeks.

    I've been in the hospital.

    I was taken in on Monday with stomach pains and vomiting, and it turned out that I needed an operation to remove the end of my small intestine. It's highly likely I have Crohn's disease, and am just waiting for the results to be officially confirmed in a couple of weeks.

    Things went pretty well all-in-all and I've just been discharged and have returned home, 11 days later.

    It's good to be back.
    I appreciate you sharing this with us. From time to time I see some members, on this and other forums, stating that the online people we meet with do not merit the same recognition as our real-world friends and acquaintances. I have never subscribed to that view. Although the interactions are different, I value many of them and take a delight in learning what interests and motivates regular members and seeing how they respond to various topics.

    I've certainly noted your presence and the level headed, but light handed approach you seem to take, so it means something to me that you wish your internet friends to know how things are going for you. I join the others who have already written in wishing you a satisfactory progress with recovery, final diagnosis and ongoing treatment - though Dywyddyr probably said it best.
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    Daecon, happy to have you back. We were getting ready to unleash the St Bernards, which are good swimmers, but they tend to get lost in the South Pacific, especially near Sandy Island.

    Various diseases and conditions affect the end of the small intestine, the terminal ileum, near the appendix, which they may have also removed.

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    Aha, I resemble that remark!

    Get Well Soon!!!

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    Thanks for your kind words everyone!

    The diagnosis was "acute terminal illietis causing partial obstruction" so I had a "laparoscopically assisted ileocaecal resection". So basically they cut me up, chopped out the end of my small gut and attached the two ends together again (I'm really glad about that last part).

    I'm still generally sore and achy, and expect to stay that was for 6-8 weeks. I'm doing gentle exercises to help my stomach muscles recover although I'm still a little slow on my feet, but I'm hoping I should be up to starting Uni in two weeks. I have painkillers and am taking the opportunity to be as lazy as I can for the next fortnight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daecon View Post
    so I had a "laparoscopically assisted...
    They got a rabbit to take a look?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daecon View Post
    Those of you who may recognize me from around the forums may have noticed I've not been online for the last couple of weeks.

    I've been in the hospital.

    I was taken in on Monday with stomach pains and vomiting, and it turned out that I needed an operation to remove the end of my small intestine. It's highly likely I have Crohn's disease, and am just waiting for the results to be officially confirmed in a couple of weeks.

    Things went pretty well all-in-all and I've just been discharged and have returned home, 11 days later.

    It's good to be back.
    My bro's got that condition (Crohns) and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I haven't got the answer to that one, but I do wonder if homemade yoghurt with plenty of probiotic bacteria mightn't be the best thing, for his flared up real bad after a yeast superinfection following a course of antibiotics.
    To make homemade yoghurt is very easy, Get "Biofarm" natural yoghurt and use that as a starter plus 1 liter of low fat milk in a clean 2 l milk bottle. Leave (a couple of days, maybe a week for the first brew as the bacteria number build up) in a dark cupboard till it is thick enough and then store in the fridge. If it was a good brew use it as the starter for the next batch, otherwise start with more Biofarm yoghurt.
    I thought I was getting a touch of it but I've been on the homemade yoghurt for a couple of years now and my gut has been good.
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    Hmm, that's an interesting question.

    Would probiotic supplements serve the same purpose but without requiring the preparation of a yoghurt to eat them with? Like a bottle of those "Inner Health Plus" pills?
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    Daecon, I would caution you: if Robbitybob's knowledge of dietary plans is as well founded as his notions on evolution, or the formation of planetary systems, then following his advice would almost certainly be fatal. . I would leave well alone! His heart is very much in the right place, its just that his head is performing its own colonoscopy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daecon View Post
    The diagnosis was "acute terminal illietis causing partial obstruction"
    I initially thought to myself:
    He's taken the bad news f**king well! He's terminal so he's taking it as an "opportunity to be as lazy as I can for the next fortnight"!!
    How chilled-out is that!

    Then I checked what the 'terminal' was actually referring to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daecon View Post
    Hmm, that's an interesting question.

    Would probiotic supplements serve the same purpose but without requiring the preparation of a yoghurt to eat them with? Like a bottle of those "Inner Health Plus" pills?
    I told my doctor about the homemade yogurt and she said that was great and good for your health. Check it out on YT or Google it, some of the other methods are a lot more time consuming, but this one is very well tested.
    I can make 2 liters of yoghurt in 5 minutes whereas other methods will take you an hour.
    A colleague used the Inner Health plus concentrate (for oral thrush after antibiotics), as per the instructions but I have wondered if the culture could also be used as a starter for yoghurt. I have not tried that yet.

    John is sort of right, but it won't do you much harm. The bug changes with the season. When it gets cold there is a change over to a bacteria that produces an alcohol (the plastic bottles start to swell). It was funny for I'd get drunk having my Weetbix and fruit in the morning, but the taste isn't as great. You can always start again.
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    Happy to hear you're okay, even if you did lose a little piece of yourself!
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Daecon, I would caution you: if Robbitybob's knowledge of dietary plans is as well founded as his notions on evolution, or the formation of planetary systems, then following his advice would almost certainly be fatal. . I would leave well alone! His heart is very much in the right place, its just that his head is performing its own colonoscopy.
    Oh I know he means well, but I hope the banter between the two of you doesn't turn too sour.
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    I told my doctor about the homemade yogurt and she said that was great and good for your health. Check it out on YT or Google it, some of the other methods are a lot more time consuming, but this one is very well tested.
    Give it up - for a while at least. Daecon hasn't even got confirmation of a diagnosis yet, maybe Crohn's, maybe IBS, maybe something else.

    But .....

    Many Crohn's sufferers, as well as others with IBS type conditions, need to avoid any and all milk based foods and products like the plague. Just as most need to avoid bread and other wheat products. Things that are acceptable or even desirable food choices for people of normal health can turn out to be a worst-possible, possibly dangerous, option for people with digestive disorders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daecon View Post
    I have painkillers
    Is it an opiate?
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    I have both paracetamol that I can take 4 times a day, and ibuprofen that I can take 3 times a day.

    The night I was recovering from my surgery I was given a button (with a 5-minute lockout timer), that I could press for a small dose of morphine, although the next day I was advised to not use it so liberally in future as it made my breathing a little too shallow for the doctor's comfort. I was still allowed to use it for the couple of days after until I no longer needed it, but I was aware to try and ration myself and to take more control of my breathing whenever I did.
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    Ah, breathing a little too shallow for the doctor's comfort ... nice wording . A little bit more than a cough suppressant.

    Opiates also slow the peristaltic function of the intestines (basically how we work toothpaste out of the tube), but the large intestine continues to draw water from its contents, which tends toward constipation.

    You did not say that you felt lousy when they took the morphine away, so it seems you didn't suffer from withdrawal. Opiates also cause the brain to increase its sensitivity to pain, and when the use of opiates stops abruptly, it can feel like having the flu (because the brain continually receives pain signals). That's why some doctors gradually reduce opiate dosing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daecon View Post
    Those of you who may recognize me from around the forums may have noticed I've not been online for the last couple of weeks.

    I've been in the hospital.

    I was taken in on Monday with stomach pains and vomiting, and it turned out that I needed an operation to remove the end of my small intestine. It's highly likely I have Crohn's disease, and am just waiting for the results to be officially confirmed in a couple of weeks.

    Things went pretty well all-in-all and I've just been discharged and have returned home, 11 days later.

    It's good to be back.
    Couple years ago I was diagnosed with terminal cancer. Back then I decided to share with the membership my daily regimen as a way of dealing with it. I found it to be very therapeutic and a good distraction. I was fortunate that the cancer turned out to be benign but I'll never forget the encouraging words and support from fellow members. So I kind of know what you're going through and I hope you keep us informed as to your status. If anything we can all learn from it. Glad you're feeling better, great to have you back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    so I had a "laparoscopically assisted...
    They got a rabbit to take a look?
    Reminds me of a silly drawing I once did... A certain Dr. Henson (Jim Henson reference) was performing a ventriloquistostomy (ventriculostomy) on a patient. Glad to have you back Daecon, those abdominal exercises should give you an opportunity to play a stunt double for the 300 remake... a way to pay for Uni.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daecon View Post
    I have both paracetamol that I can take 4 times a day, and ibuprofen that I can take 3 times a day.
    You call those painkillers? Pffft.
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    I don't like reading about medical problems because it makes myself feel fragile.

    I hope you are able to pull through.
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    I hope everything came out ok.

    Wait...that sounded bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrmonroe View Post
    Ah, breathing a little too shallow for the doctor's comfort ... nice wording . A little bit more than a cough suppressant.

    Opiates also slow the peristaltic function of the intestines (basically how we work toothpaste out of the tube), but the large intestine continues to draw water from its contents, which tends toward constipation.

    You did not say that you felt lousy when they took the morphine away, so it seems you didn't suffer from withdrawal. Opiates also cause the brain to increase its sensitivity to pain, and when the use of opiates stops abruptly, it can feel like having the flu (because the brain continually receives pain signals). That's why some doctors gradually reduce opiate dosing.
    I'm not sure if I suffered withdrawal or not. I don't believe I was on the morphine for long enough to develop a physical dependency, but I have no idea about just how addictive morphine really is.

    All I do remember is that the day after my operation, I was still half-asleep for the whole day due to the after-effects of the anesthetic, but the day following that I was feeling *really* bad, I had a tube down my nose into my stomach (for a few days) that was irritating the back of my throat, I felt exhausted and practically in agony. My memory of just how bad I was has lessened over the week, but I remember being so rough I even asked the nurse if I could be sedated until I was all better again.

    That's not an experience I EVER want to repeat, I get chills just thinking about it.
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