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  1. #1 The theories we have today, was only developed in 300 years ? 
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    hello mates,
    actually i am very confused when i saw indian 4 popular books, called vedas. They are four books about medical science, physics and religion. Actually the surprising thing is that they are written about 5000 to 10000 year back or more. When you take a look on books then you will found they have explained all the physical laws and medical science 10000 year back.
    i think if we can develop science in just 300 years then their may be a time in past when science was on extreme level, and all the things lost because of war.
    is it possible ?
    please tell me the concept of warm hole ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paramvir Jakhar View Post
    When you take a look on books then you will found they have explained all the physical laws and medical science 10000 year back.
    Nonsense.

    their may be a time in past when science was on extreme level, and all the things lost because of war.
    Also nonsense.

    please tell me the concept of warm hole ?
    Presumably you mean worm hole: Wikipedia is a good start.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paramvir Jakhar View Post
    Actually the surprising thing is that they are written about 5000 to 10000 year back or more.
    Nowhere near that old. They were composed between about 1500 BC and 500 BC. So, at most, 3,500 years old.

    When you take a look on books then you will found they have explained all the physical laws and medical science 10000 year back.
    That seems very unlikely. Please provide an example where they explain General Relativity or Heisenbergs' Uncertainty Principle, for example.

    i think if we can develop science in just 300 years then their may be a time in past when science was on extreme level, and all the things lost because of war.
    is it possible ?

    Possible. But very, very unlikely. And there is no evidence for such a thing.

    please tell me the concept of warm hole ?
    I assume you mean worm hole? Can't you find the answer in your Vedas?

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    The OP appears to be getting his facts from up a "warm hole"...
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    MODERATOR ACTION : I am really unsure where to put this, but it clearly does not belong into the "Physics" section. Will move it to General Discussion for the time being.
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    Paramvir, advanced science involves equations, often complex, with which precise predictions can be made. Science is not the wordy, arm-waving and sets of analogies we find in popular science books. I can imagine that an inventive mind could find parallels between the content of the Vedas and of a pop-science book, That would be a reflection of the ingenuity of the inventive mind, not an indication that the Vedas contained serious revelations about physical reality.

    Like Strange, I should like to hear of an example of what you believe to be the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paramvir Jakhar View Post
    hello mates,
    actually i am very confused when i saw indian 4 popular books, called vedas. They are four books about medical science, physics and religion. Actually the surprising thing is that they are written about 5000 to 10000 year back or more. When you take a look on books then you will found they have explained all the physical laws and medical science 10000 year back.
    i think if we can develop science in just 300 years then their may be a time in past when science was on extreme level, and all the things lost because of war.
    is it possible ?
    please tell me the concept of warm hole ?
    you are correct science has no the true theory of realty for many thousands of years and still know it today. The problem is with ultimate knowledge come ultimate power. They have not shared the secret with the common man. it has been hidden from you and in modern times you been given mis information to further confuse you such as quantom mechanics, string theory, dark energy all things made just make you think the average man can not understand reality. Well the cats out of the bag now see facebook.com/oneblackhole the truth is finally told
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    to say modern science involves equations is popular myth. When the universe began there was no math and no equations and to think you need them to understand the universe is insanity. the truth is much much simpler thank that.
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    the orinal bible for example is better explaination of realty than we have now. Not king james tard version. The original bible before the koran read it it is theory of reality. The truth has been hidden from you. But we have it now. (link deleted...)


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    Quote Originally Posted by badmood View Post
    you are correct science has no the true theory of realty for many thousands of years and still know it today.
    No.

    The problem is with ultimate knowledge come ultimate power.
    Whut?

    They have not shared the secret with the common man.
    Who is "they"?

    to say modern science involves equations is popular myth.
    It's a fact.

    When the universe began there was no math and no equations
    So what? You're confusing reality with how we describe it.

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    the orinal bible for example is better explaination of realty than we have now.
    Utter nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmood View Post
    to say modern science involves equations is popular myth. When the universe began there was no math and no equations and to think you need them to understand the universe is insanity. the truth is much much simpler thank that.
    When some bullshit story you tell manages to land a rover on Mars, then come talk to me. Until then this crap really, really, really belongs in the TRASH!
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    do you believe if the government of the united states had the actual theory of reality they would share it? governments like power they are not big on sharing it. do you really think it has not been figured out that after Einstein we have not progressed? You have clearly never read the first bible. It has nothing to do with religion.
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    Can't decide if this guy is trolling or just really, really stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmood View Post
    do you believe if the government of the united states had the actual theory of reality they would share it? governments like power they are not big on sharing it. do you really think it has not been figured out that after Einstein we have not progressed? You have clearly never read the first bible. It has nothing to do with religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmood View Post
    The problem is with ultimate knowledge come ultimate power. They have not shared the secret with the common man.
    1) We don't have ultimate knowledge yet. No one does.
    2) What we do have is shared with the "common man." Most people don't understand it - as you appear not to.

    it has been hidden from you and in modern times you been given mis information to further confuse you such as quantom mechanics, string theory, dark energy all things made just make you think the average man can not understand reality.
    Most people can to greater or lesser degrees. It sounds like you are making the classic "argument from incredulity" - you cannot understand it, therefore it's not real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmood View Post
    do you believe if the government of the united states had the actual theory of reality they would share it?
    For that to be true there'd have to be an "actual theory of reality".
    Which there isn't.

    do you really think it has not been figured out that after Einstein we have not progressed?
    Do you really think we're going to accept your unsupported word for it?

    You have clearly never read the first bible. It has nothing to do with religion.
    1) the bible ("first" or otherwise) is nothing whatsoever to do with science.
    2) "Nothing to do with religion"? Now I know you're joking, but it's not funny enough to be worth typing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    Can't decide if this guy is trolling or just really, really stupid.
    thank you for intelligent reply can we just have fun just because I know the truth dont be intimated you know it to. You just know you know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by badmood View Post
    do you believe if the government of the united states had the actual theory of reality they would share it? governments like power they are not big on sharing it. do you really think it has not been figured out that after Einstein we have not progressed? You have clearly never read the first bible. It has nothing to do with religion.
    Stop trolling.
    please explain how discussing physics is trolling not everything is trick. Lighten up physics is fun
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    I've decided, it's a troll AND really, really stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmood View Post
    please explain how discussing physics is trolling not everything is trick.
    You're not discussing physics.

    Lighten up physics is fun
    How would you know?
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    are you sure there is no there is no actual theory of reality. after all this time we don't know the simplest thing how we exist? It seams more likely you dont know the theory of reality. I tell you know you do know it. You have been purposely made to believe you dont know it. It is out there I know where but i cant tell you because them they call it spam. That is sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmood View Post
    Lighten up physics is fun
    I think you're confusing physics with balloon animals. You don't seem to have any grasp of the former.
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    you have not seen the work how could you possibly say its unsupported. If you saw the work then make any claim you want but until then get off your high horse you met learn the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmood View Post
    are you sure there is no there is no actual theory of reality.
    Yes.

    after all this time we don't know the simplest thing how we exist?
    Which supports my view, doesn't it?

    It seams more likely you dont know the theory of reality.
    Since there isn't one I couldn't know it.

    I tell you know you do know it. You have been purposely made to believe you dont know it. It is out there I know where but i cant tell you because them they call it spam. That is sad.
    And yet all you manage to do is repeat an unsupported claim. Instead of posting something substantial.
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    all you have to do is accept that you truly do not know how or why you exist. Unless your were there at the big bang or have shaken hands with god or whatever started the universe you truly dont know. If you can accept that simple truth you can begin to find the answer that you truly seek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmood View Post
    Unless your were there at the big bang or have shaken hands with god or whatever started the universe you truly dont know.

    You were not there, either.
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    no i have listed the videos of the guy who actually came upon the truth and in those short videos he answers all the question and gives the actual theory of reality. However you can only lead a horse o water.
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    Isn't it funny how a guy who claims to understand "all of reality" and (in his video) claims that it makes you "all powerful" and still manages to A) be incapable of spelling and using correct grammar and B) doesn't appear to be powerfuil enough to convince us that he's right.
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    good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Isn't it funny how a guy who claims to understand "all of reality" and (in his video) claims that it makes you "all powerful" and still manages to A) be incapable of spelling and using correct grammar and B) doesn't appear to be powerfuil enough to convince us that he's right.
    every forum has the same goofball who goes around spell checking. Look details such as grammar are not important and such trivial things are best left to trivial people. do you want spelling forum go there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmood View Post
    no i have listed the videos of the guy who actually came upon the truth and in those short videos he CLAIMS THAT HE answers all the question and CLAIMS THAT HE gives the actual theory of reality.
    Fixed that for you.
    He's provided nothing whatsoever as evidence.

    In short the guy's a deluded nutcase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    no i have listed the videos of the guy who actually came upon the truth and in those short videos he CLAIMS THAT HE answers all the question and CLAIMS THAT HE gives the actual theory of reality.
    Fixed that for you.
    He's provided nothing whatsoever as evidence.

    You did not expect that to begin with, did you?
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    I didn't expect it at all.
    The initial premise (only one black hole) is incorrect, but I suffered through two of the videos to see if he made anything other than empty unsupported claims.
    Surprisingly 1 he didn't.

    1 "Surprisingly" is used here in the sense of "not at all surprsing, but fully expected".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    I didn't expect it at all.
    The initial premise (only one black hole) is incorrect, but I suffered through two of the videos to see if he made anything other than empty unsupported claims.
    Surprisingly 1 he didn't.

    1 "Surprisingly" is used here in the sense of "not at all surprsing, but fully expected".

    Did the consumption of alcoholic beverages during the holidays not cause a sufficient loss of brain cells that you had to watch two(!) videos?
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    I gave it the benefit of doubt: I genuinely wondered if there'd be any ACTUAL declaration of what this "theory of everything" is, as opposed to vague claims about it, and conspiracy theory.
    (And, given my cold, alcohol consumption was at a reduced level: I stayed at home with a mug of coffee on NYE instead of going to a friend's for wine and brandy).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    I didn't expect it at all.
    The initial premise (only one black hole) is incorrect, but I suffered through two of the videos to see if he made anything other than empty unsupported claims.
    Surprisingly 1 he didn't.

    1 "Surprisingly" is used here in the sense of "not at all surprsing, but fully expected".
    I think you've really taken a bullet for the team there, and I'm 100% certain I can take your word on the videos.
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    Given the outright lie (leading into more brainless extrapolation) in video 2 I doubt there's any actual science in ANY of them.
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    I certainly hope people have better forums but they all the same. The same group of goofballs who think they control the forum and surpass any knowledge they did not discover. Its over guys we will move past you I invite you to come with us when you are ready
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmood View Post
    surpass any knowledge they did not discover
    Oh, I'm reasonably sure that I surpassed YOUR knowledge when I reached the age of 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmood View Post
    I certainly hope people have better forums but they all the same. The same group of goofballs who think they control the forum and surpass any knowledge they did not discover. Its over guys we will move past you I invite you to come with us when you are ready
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    Quote Originally Posted by badmood View Post
    the truth is much much simpler thank that.
    Then can you explain this "simple truth" in a few sentences?

    (Note that science doesn't really deal in truth, which is partly why you are getting a hostile reaction. The lack of objective evidence may be another.)
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