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  1. #1 Coriolis effect is two different events tied to one theory 
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    I remember seeing world war 2 charts for determining coriolus effect for missle launches. My belief is that is due to the earth rotating on a non perpindicular axis. The second effect is the rotation of storms being opposite in the northern and southern hemispheres, My terminology is probably lacking but in essence storm rotation is due to greaater rotation speed near the equator, I have been shot down before for this belief, but have not been convinced otherwise. Thanks


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    What were the specific reasons you were given for your idea being incorrect? Why do you think those reasons are lacking? Why do you feel modern climate, weather, and atmospheric researchers are incorrect?


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    I have no assumption to believe any conception is wrong but attempted to be persuaded by things such as wiki that say "Of course, the most commonly encountered rotating reference frame is the Earth. The Coriolis effect is caused by the rotation of the Earth and the inertia of the mass experiencing the effect" I think the missle going off course is a result of the earth rotating on a non perpindicular axis so if shooting straight across the lattitudes the time to get there accounts for the different landing spot, and that is a seperate and unique function vs the rotation storms.
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    You do assume the conepts are wrong though, as you say in your opening post that you were not convinced by others you posed this suggestion to when they explained why it doesnt fit.

    What were the specific reasons you were given for your idea being incorrect? Why do you think those reasons are lacking? Why do you feel modern climate, weather, and atmospheric researchers are incorrect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mongodoesnotunderstand View Post
    I have no assumption to believe any conception is wrong
    Yet, since you have given your own "reasons" as to why these effects happen:
    I think the missle going off course is a result of the earth rotating on a non perpindicular axis so if shooting straight across the lattitudes the time to get there accounts for the different landing spot, and that is a seperate and unique function vs the rotation storms.
    You obviously do consider the standard explanation to be incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mongodoesnotunderstand View Post
    My belief is that is due to the earth rotating on a non perpindicular axis.
    What do you mean by a "non-perpendicular axis"? Perpendicular to what? The orbital plane of the earth around the sun? If that's what you mean, then how does the sun affect the trajectory of a missile?
    There are no paradoxes in relativity, just people's misunderstandings of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mongodoesnotunderstand View Post
    I remember seeing world war 2 charts for determining coriolus effect for missle launches. My belief is that is due to the earth rotating on a non perpindicular axis. The second effect is the rotation of storms being opposite in the northern and southern hemispheres, My terminology is probably lacking but in essence storm rotation is due to greaater rotation speed near the equator, I have been shot down before for this belief, but have not been convinced otherwise. Thanks
    Yep your terminology is lacking for sure.

    What do you mean by "due to the earth rotating on a non perpendicular axis."
    To what? It rotates only its axis...about that simple. Movements which we call Coriolis are only deflections due to the difference between straight line relative to that rotating reference frame. It's not only storms, but ballistic objects, and bowling balls (by a hair). It's effect is zero at the equator and at maximum at each pole.
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