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    I think I have linked relativity and string theory! I know I'm young but I am extremely advanced, I will not go as far as saying I'm a Guinness. However I want to contact a real physicist to share my idea. I will not post it on here as I fear some one will steal my idea... Anyone give me help?


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    We cannot help you if you do not present your idea.
    However, if you have written down your idea (and added the appropriate scientific sources and the necessary mathematical models), you can provide a link to the document if you put it on Google Docs, Dropbox, etc. There are many smart members (e.g. KJW, Markus Hanke, tk421, Strange, xyzt, etc.) on this forum who can help you.

    Another option is sending your idea via email to several people who are knowledgeable about relativity and string theory.
    Universities sometimes offer email addresses of professors.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Physicsforall View Post
    I think I have linked relativity and string theory!
    Excellent.
    By the way, what's your background in these two disciplines?

    I know I'm young but I am extremely advanced
    Isn't it funny how no one who claims to have made a breakthrough says they're old but retarded?

    I will not go as far as saying I'm a Guinness.
    Bearing in mind that you can't even spell "genius" I'd advise you to lay off the Guinness.

    However I want to contact a real physicist to share my idea.
    Wait! YOU'RE not a real physicist?
    So what makes you think your idea has any validity?

    I will not post it on here as I fear some one will steal my idea.
    Steal your idea?
    And do what with it?
    How do you propose to discuss your idea if you can't tell anyone about for fear of it being stolen?

    Anyone give me help?
    Yep.
    I advise you to get an education.
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    I know how to spell genius it is my Ipod likes to spell things for me! and I'm not saying it is valid nor good. however, I feel that this one could work, perhaps... I don't have not much math because I have barely gotten to calculus, Im only a freshman... sadly I know this is most likely incorrect! but I have some hope in it.
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    Hey there, perhaps you could present some of your ideas on the forums additional physics forum, The Physics Forum
    what I think this will allow you to do is see where your understanding is correct and which areas you can work on, either way there will be people there that can help and are better able to understand the subject matter.
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    Ok the part where I say I think I have linked string theory and relativity together I am not for shure... I do not have much back ground in string theory (like I said most likely wrong) but I have done quite a bit of studying in realativity.
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    Ok like I said most likely wrong but... screw it Ill post my Idea. Ok so as Einstein thought of the universe of a sheet of some material, and gravity as an object bending this sheet... I thought hey? What if there where multiple sheets? the sheets being made of very small invisible strings... Two strings connect to each other in the shape of a double helix, and those connecting to other ones and so on... Still with me? well let's say thats what the universe is made of, well when and object passes through these strings the bend out of the way creating gravity! Then I had the problem of black holes? So I came up with, when a star turns into a black hole the strings(the ones that make up the universe) start to bend into one single point! the point of singularity!

    This is what I have gotten so far I used limits to try and figure out the amount of mass an object would need to make this point of singularity but have not gotten far...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physicsforall View Post
    Ok so as Einstein thought of the universe of a sheet of some material, and gravity as an object bending this sheet.
    No he didn't.
    That's a popularisation used to provide a simplified explanation of how gravity bends spacetime.

    I thought hey? What if there where multiple sheets?
    And this would mean... what, exactly?

    the sheets being made of very small invisible strings... Two strings connect to each other in the shape of a double helix
    Why a double helix?
    You don't actually know what string theory is, do you?

    well when and object passes through these strings the bend out of the way creating gravity!
    Why do strings bending out of the way create gravity?

    Then I had the problem of black holes? So I came up with, when a star turns into a black hole the strings(the ones that make up the universe) start to bend into one single point! the point of singularity!
    Why would the strings bend into a single point? And why do strings bending toward each other ALSO create gravity, given that you've previously said that gravity is created by strings bending away from something?

    This is what I have gotten so far I used limits to try and figure out the amount of mass an object would need to make this point of singularity but have not gotten far...
    The amount of mass required depends on how compressed it is.
    For example: In principle, a black hole can have any mass equal to or above the Planck mass (about 22 micrograms).
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    Ok I know you are just trying to get the right answer! Im not mad but please go tell my 8th grade science teacher he is full of crap! And as the singularity goes It could be where they connect or where they rip. The strings in my opinion create gravity... double helix (I did just make that up) but that is how I imagine it. as far as how the strings would create gravity is where inlies I need help! and I said I dont really know string theory, but this could relate in some way. The multiple sheets would basicly be a vacuum unless filled with other matter. I dont get these all right because my school is crappy at teaching, they wont accelarate me any faster, and like I said before my teachers are dumb! and I have a knowledge in the mass of a black hole but I was checking If I could get the same answer... and sorry your other question about the multiple layers: to note to my self the univers is not all at one level or not 2-D
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    Now can I ask? is it a good theory in any way? What needs improvement? what do I need to find out? or is this just the stupidist thing you've ever heard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physicsforall View Post
    I think I have linked relativity and string theory! I know I'm young but I am extremely advanced
    I should warn you that both relativity and string theory are deeply mathematical theories. Having a good grasp of either would probably require several years of graduate and post-grad study. Understanding both of them in detail would be quite an achievement. Anyone who had studied to that level would almost certainly have people to discuss the idea with before posting on an Internet forum. There are few people alive at the moment who could even hope to combine these theories.

    Hope that explains the reaction you are getting here....

    But you might find this fun: Fuzzball (string theory) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Physicsforall View Post
    I think I have linked relativity and string theory! I know I'm young but I am extremely advanced
    I should warn you that both relativity and string theory are deeply mathematical theories. Having a good grasp of either would probably require several years of graduate and post-grad study. Understanding both of them in detail would be quite an achievement. Anyone who had studied to that level would almost certainly have people to discuss the idea with before posting on an Internet forum. There are few people alive at the moment who could even hope to combine these theories.

    Hope that explains the reaction you are getting here....

    But you might find this fun: Fuzzball (string theory) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Thank you I was planning on going to college of course...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physicsforall View Post
    or is this just the stupidist thing you've ever heard?
    Oh good grief!
    Not by a long shot.
    Take a look in the Trash or Pseudoscience sub-forums for "stupid".
    Your idea is just at the level of "not useful and not (even close to) right".
    Like Strange said: There are few people alive at the moment who could even hope to combine these theories.

    what do I need to find out?
    You need a thorough foundation and background in both relativity and string theory.
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    Thank you! (And really tell my teacher he's stupid)... I am not done with this! I will get more information and fix the problems... Thank you Dywyddyr! Next time ill have more to back it up with! And thank you everyone else
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physicsforall View Post
    I am not done with this! I will get more information and fix the problems.
    Go for it!
    (Sincerely).
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    And if anyone else as concerns about this I wanna hear them please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physicsforall View Post
    I think I have linked relativity and string theory! I know I'm young but I am extremely advanced, I will not go as far as saying I'm a Guinness.
    Good! No beer that I have ever met has understood physics very well.
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    Pfft, this Guiness:


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    Ok... What if I change this too... Umm... Ok so Einstein said space time is bent by gravity, so let's change my string idea! What if (and is this possible?) The strings are like gidelines, I mean the everything in the universe is moving, so the strings being guidelines direct things where to go. But the strings are drawn to other matter(more like any object with mass), then creating gravity... Space time is then bent by the gravity. As for the strings mass it would have to be 0kg right? Then a black hole, the strings are drawn to this mass so much the connect, then poking a hole in space time.As for your comments dywyddyr please feel free to say what couldn't work, explain why, and explain what it would need to work.
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    No space-time is "bent" by mass not gravity, the curvature of space-time "produces" gravity. Why are strings needed as guidelines when we have forces that "direct things". By what mechanism are the strings attracted to matter? How would this affect their function as "guidelines" if they are causing matter to move and at the same time moving themselves due to their attraction to the matter they are guiding? Again space-time is not bent by gravity, "bent" (or curved space-time is what gravity is).
    Why does the strings mass have to be 0 kg, this does not follow from anything previous.
    Strings poking holes in space-time, that's a WTF moment there...
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    Ok then well I miss read somestuff from above exuse that please.
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    Ok better idea! Does any one have good websites in wich I can get a good understanding in string theory, and theory of relativity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physicsforall View Post
    Ok better idea! Does any one have good websites in wich I can get a good understanding in string theory, and theory of relativity?
    I'd probably suggest looking at the reference and citation links on their Wikipedia articles as a starting point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physicsforall View Post
    Ok better idea! Does any one have good websites in wich I can get a good understanding in string theory, and theory of relativity?
    You can't just jump into something like that. You have to have a strong background in the mathematics involved. I know science popularists like to use vivid visual to get their point across in regards to high-level physics, but if you can't do the math, you don't really​ understand the principles.
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    Ok so as Einstein thought of the universe of a sheet of some material, and gravity as an object bending this sheet..
    No, I'm afraid you're confusing the analogy which is often used with what was actually said.
    Its the way nature is!
    If you dont like it, go somewhere else....
    To another universe, where the rules are simpler
    Philosophically more pleasing, more psychologically easy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physicsforall View Post
    Ok then well I miss read somestuff from above exuse that please.
    Hi Physicsforall

    Why don't you have a good read of Brian Greene's Elegant Universe as a primer. It's a great read and covers basics in Relativity and String Theory. After that, you will then be in a position to possibly answer your own questions, appreciate actually how much study you would need to put into getting a mathematical handle on these theories and also give you a slight leg-up to investigate some of the big questions in more detail. :-))
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physicsforall View Post
    I think I have linked relativity and string theory! I know I'm young but I am extremely advanced, I will not go as far as saying I'm a Guinness. However I want to contact a real physicist to share my idea. I will not post it on here as I fear some one will steal my idea... Anyone give me help?
    I find it amazing you managed to link relativity and string theory without looking up the original papers on these topics.

    If you had done so you would have found the contact information of these physicists that wrote these papers on these papers (For some reason scientists don't like anonymous work).

    I am sure these people would gladly help you.

    But bravo that you managed to link these theories without reading primary literature. Not everybody could have done so, or would have dared to say it out loud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    Ok so as Einstein thought of the universe of a sheet of some material, and gravity as an object bending this sheet..
    No, I'm afraid you're confusing the analogy which is often used with what was actually said.
    I meant... The mass of the object bends space-time and that is what makes gravity..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Implicate Order View Post
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    Ok then well I miss read somestuff from above exuse that please.
    Hi PhysicsforallWhy don't you have a good read of Brian Greene's Elegant Universe as a primer. It's a great read and covers basics in Relativity and String Theory. After that, you will then be in a position to possibly answer your own questions, appreciate actually how much study you would need to put into getting a mathematical handle on these theories and also give you a slight leg-up to investigate some of the big questions in more detail. :-))
    yes I will look at that! My math is good, just need to work on my understanding of the two subjects. Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
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    Ok better idea! Does any one have good websites in wich I can get a good understanding in string theory, and theory of relativity?
    You can't just jump into something like that. You have to have a strong background in the mathematics involved. I know science popularists like to use vivid visual to get their point across in regards to high-level physics, but if you can't do the math, you don't really​ understand the principles.
    I could probably do some of the math... Thank you
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    This might be a useful article: Gerard t Hooft, Theoretical Physics as a Challenge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    or is this just the stupidist thing you've ever heard?
    Oh good grief!
    Not by a long shot.
    Take a look in the Trash or Pseudoscience sub-forums for "stupid".
    Your idea is just at the level of "not useful and not (even close to) right".
    What Dywyddyr said is pretty much what I would've said.
    There are no paradoxes in relativity, just people's misunderstandings of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physicsforall View Post
    Ok better idea! Does any one have good websites in wich I can get a good understanding in string theory, and theory of relativity?
    I don't think websites will do the trick here. Start with relativity first, and get yourself a good textbook - "Gravitation" by Misner/Thorne/Wheeler is always a good bet. This will keep you busy for a few months at the very least.
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    Personally, I would forget about String Theory and focus on the foundations of physics. Once you have a good grounding in that, then you can see for yourself how to proceed further.

    Let me ask you a question: Why do YOU think String Theory is the way to go?
    There are no paradoxes in relativity, just people's misunderstandings of it.
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