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  1. #1 How have (scientific) discoveries, been used to influence society? 
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    There have been many discoveries that have been used by people (usually politicians), to influence society.
    Any examples of this? I have hand NO help from any other sources. []

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    The one discovery that would come to mind is einstein mass and energy relation( E=MC^2) which of course was used for the 1st atomic bomb in world war2(and that my friend is politics)


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    Yes, but HOW. how did society change when it was first observed?
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    Many of the changes we've not only observed but are observing with growing frequency are more responsibility toward eachother and the environment/ ecosystem.
    Many, many discoveries have contributed to a decline of sexism, racism and the like, as we learn more about ourselves and become less superstitious and ignorant, we place greater importance in fairer treatment, understanding equality, and how alike we all really are.
    Discoveries in genetics, archeology, anthropology are not the only ones, but also in the natural world and our lineage within it showing our relation to the other animals aside from ourselves.

    Our discoveries in early astronomy led back to a closer look at home, as well. As we explored the origin of our solar system and planet and life on it, we are made all too aware of how fragile the balance, how tenacious the life and how precious the chances are.

    As we examined our own evolution, knowledge of our roots became more available to the common person on the street to see how we are all tied to eachother and all life on Earth. As we examined the Earth, we became more aware of the damage we can cause- and how difficult it will be to rectify it. This leads to more responsibility for ourselves. As we examined the stars, we became more optimistic of the future and a greater urgency to enable ourselves to survive and push onward.

    Even the things we take for granted have had a large impact on how we relate to eachother. Such as computing, communications, the ability to communicate globally (thanks to understanding Relativity) to make the world a smaller place in our dealings with eachother. No longer are cultural divisions mysterious and alien- but beautiful, recognizable and enticing.
    We can befriend people that in ancient history, would be frightening strangers, we can use our technology to promote understanding and cooperation.
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    Here's a psychologist whose "scientific discoveries" changed society...... Hendrik Verwoerd.
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    Hitler, used the corrupted message of Darwinism, conveyed via Houston Stewart Chamberlain and the general ambience of pre-war Vienna, to justify his racial supremacy concepts. I think we can all agree he had a marked impact on society.
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    You would need to support that claim with citations showing that Hitler Credited Darwin with inspiring his ideas.
    No, seriously- Citation Needed.

    Hitler was a fanatic- and a Strong Believer In God. He made no scientific discoveries, did not follow the scientific method and did not, to the best of my knowledge, credit any scientific discoveries for his Mein Kampf fueled atrocities.
    His motivations were racist, political and religious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASIN View Post
    [FONT=verdana]There have been many discoveries that have been used by people (usually politicians), to influence society.
    Any examples of this? I have hand NO help from any other sources.
    Are there any scientific discoveries that have not influenced society?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
    You would need to support that claim with citations showing that Hitler Credited Darwin with inspiring his ideas.
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    Please read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote. Here, I'll spell it out for you:

    Hitler, used the corrupted message of Darwinism, The same corruption that spawned the eugenics movement.
    conveyed via Houston Stewart Chamberlain Who moved in the same circles as Hitler and whom Hitler very likely knew
    and the general ambience of pre-war Vienna, Where talk of eugenics and Darwin was if not a commonplace, certainly a well appreciated idea

    Since I did not claim that Hitler credited Darwin with inspiring his ideas, I have no need to provide a citation to justify it.
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    To what do owe the knowledge that Earth is in the Sun's orbit, and to what do we owe the knowledge of constellations and stars as they appear throughout the year? Surely what was once the most reliable means of navigation. It would, at least in part, have played a major role in shaping the world as we know it today - what with the discovery and subsequent European colonization of oh-so many continents.
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    All these sciences involved in revolutionizing engineering and communications technology. Even since I was a teenagers our entire world has changed. My view of the world was through National Geographic and a middle class pen pal in Zaire. My kid talks to and shares pics with others his age from Japan every night for free through his computer.
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    And at great risk of completely derailing the thread...nowhere that I'm aware of did Hitler, in any of his writings or speeches credit Darwin for his ideas, or really even indicate he know anything about evolution or have an interest in biology. He rhetoric is much more firmly planted in the likes of Martin Luther who went as far as state openly he'd not find fault in Christians that killed Jews ("on Jews in their lives") and centuries of oppressing Jews all over Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Since I did not claim that Hitler credited Darwin with inspiring his ideas, I have no need to provide a citation to justify it.
    Very well, my apologies.
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    The eugenics movement was based to some extent on evolution. Note that the logo of the Second International Congress of Eugenics, 1921 used the motto "Eugenics is the Self Direction of Human Evolution."
    Eugenics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    According to this Wikipedia article the Nazi eugenics program spread to Germany after it was already established in the US.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics

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    don't know why this would cause such heartburn. Science is just science and is neither good nor evil. It can be used for any purpose from making war weapons to medical devices.
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    Discovery of the light bulb.

    Telephone.

    Airplanes.

    Automobiles,

    Cell phones.

    Television.

    Film.

    They are all created by science. Are then not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    And at great risk of completely derailing the thread...nowhere that I'm aware of did Hitler, in any of his writings or speeches credit Darwin for his ideas, or really even indicate he know anything about evolution or have an interest in biology.
    This is wholly incorrect. I am preparing a detailed piece on the impact of Darwin, via the eugenics movement and volkisch politics, on Hitler's thinking. In the meantime consider this passage.

    For, since the inferior always predominates numerically over the best, if both had the same possibility of preserving life and propagating, the inferior would multiply so much more rapidly that in the end the best would be driven into the background, unless a correction of this state of affairs were undertaken. Nature does this by subjecting the weaker part to such severe living conditions that by them alone the number is limited, and by not permitting the remainder to increase promiscuously, but making a new and ruthless choice according to strength and health.[1]

    This is pure Malthus; this is Survival of the Fittest; this is Darwinism. And it is Adolf Hitler, writing in Mein Kampf.


    Further, the Press Chief for the Third Reich, Otto Dietrich, had this to say on Hitler’s views:

    His evolutionary views on natural selection and survival of the fittest coincided with Darwin and Haeckel.
    [2]

    Did Hitler derive his beliefs on race, evolution and the struggle for survival directly from Darwin? Almost certainly not, but then how many biologists, geneticists, biochemists, or microbiologists have read On the Origin of Species? Hitler took his ideas from the intellectual and faux-intellectual milieu of the time and that was based upon Darwin and certain of his immediate successors, notably Herbert Spencer and in Germany Houston Stuart Chamberlain and Theodor Fritsch. In the environments he inhabited (Vienna and Munich), the circles he came to move in (Hanfstaengl and Wagner), the eclectic reading he indulged in, and the prejudices he harboured, it would have been impossible for him not to be influenced by Darwinian thinking, no matter how corrupted.

    [1] Hitler, A. translated by Manheim, R. Mein Kampf Houghton Mifflin (Mariner Books) 1999. Originally published by Verlag Frz. Eher Nachf, 1925 and 1927. Page 286.

    [2] Dietrich,O. The Hitler I Knew (Memoirs of the Third Reich’s Press Chief) Skyhorse Publising 2010




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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    Discovery of the light bulb.

    Telephone.

    Airplanes.

    Automobiles,

    Cell phones.

    Television.

    Film.

    They are all created by science. Are then not?
    They are actually called science inventions which are brought about by enormous discoveries in science and for your above examples,in physics!
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    Discovery of the light bulb.

    Telephone.

    Airplanes.

    Automobiles,

    Cell phones.

    Television.

    Film.

    They are all created by science. Are then not?
    They are actually called science inventions which are brought about by enormous discoveries in science and for your above examples,in physics!
    Mahalo for the answer to a non science person!

    But Question!!!

    Would science inventions not be SCIENCE? I understand that they are also Physics...which is another Science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    Discovery of the light bulb.

    Telephone.

    Airplanes.

    Automobiles,

    Cell phones.

    Television.

    Film.

    They are all created by science. Are then not?
    I would say they are products of technology (but then I would: I am an engineer not a scientist). But most (all?) technological developments are based on scientific developments. The above wouldn't have been possible without an understanding of electricity, aerodynamics, quantum physics, material science, human physiology and many other branches of science.
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    Discovery of the light bulb.

    Telephone.

    Airplanes.

    Automobiles,

    Cell phones.

    Television.

    Film.

    They are all created by science. Are then not?
    They are actually called science inventions which are brought about by enormous discoveries in science and for your above examples,in physics!
    Mahalo for the answer to a non science person!

    But Question!!!

    Would science inventions not be SCIENCE? I understand that they are also Physics...which is another Science.
    "Science is the study of the physical and natural world through the scientific method." So science is a way of acquiring knowledge and once we know,we ωαηт to know more! The world we now study poses difficulties to us living. so we try to make the world around us more comfortable and to satisfy our hunger for knowledge we strive to enhance our studying abilities through inventions.... These inventions however are manifestations of our previous understanding about a subject area!

    In other words science inventions are manifestations of science discoveries,knowledge acquired through scientific method in other to make living more comfortable and discovery of the unknown possible and with increasing accuracy so as to limit errors and increase understanding of the universe at large,how it works,how it came to be,what it is now,what it will be.... Answers to these will help us inturn,so we can make sense of our frail human existence!
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    Discovery of the light bulb.

    Telephone.

    Airplanes.

    Automobiles,

    Cell phones.

    Television.

    Film.

    They are all created by science. Are then not?
    They are actually called science inventions which are brought about by enormous discoveries in science and for your above examples,in physics!
    Mahalo for the answer to a non science person!

    But Question!!!

    Would science inventions not be SCIENCE? I understand that they are also Physics...which is another Science.
    "Science is the study of the physical and natural world through the scientific method." So science is a way of acquiring knowledge and once we know,we ωαηт to know more! The world we now study poses difficulties to us living. so we try to make the world around us more comfortable and to satisfy our hunger for knowledge we strive to enhance our studying abilities through inventions.... These inventions however are manifestations of our previous understanding about a subject area!

    In other words science inventions are manifestations of science discoveries,knowledge acquired through scientific method in other to make living more comfortable and discovery of the unknown possible and with increasing accuracy so as to limit errors and increase understanding of the universe at large,how it works,how it came to be,what it is now,what it will be.... Answers to these will help us inturn,so we can make sense of our frail human existence!
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    Discovery of the light bulb.

    Telephone.

    Airplanes.

    Automobiles,

    Cell phones.

    Television.

    Film.

    They are all created by science. Are then not?
    They are actually called science inventions which are brought about by enormous discoveries in science and for your above examples,in physics!
    Mahalo for the answer to a non science person!

    But Question!!!

    Would science inventions not be SCIENCE? I understand that they are also Physics...which is another Science.
    "Science is the study of the physical and natural world through the scientific method." So science is a way of acquiring knowledge and once we know,we ωαηт to know more! The world we now study poses difficulties to us living. so we try to make the world around us more comfortable and to satisfy our hunger for knowledge we strive to enhance our studying abilities through inventions.... These inventions however are manifestations of our previous understanding about a subject area!

    In other words science inventions are manifestations of science discoveries,knowledge acquired through scientific method in other to make living more comfortable and discovery of the unknown possible and with increasing accuracy so as to limit errors and increase understanding of the universe at large,how it works,how it came to be,what it is now,what it will be.... Answers to these will help us inturn,so we can make sense of our frail human existence!
    SO, you are saying that inventions are science, due to people taking concepts of science discoveries and combining them with materials to create (invent) something that proves their theory, when it works.
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    Discovery of the light bulb.

    Telephone.

    Airplanes.

    Automobiles,

    Cell phones.

    Television.

    Film.

    They are all created by science. Are then not?
    They are actually called science inventions which are brought about by enormous discoveries in science and for your above examples,in physics!
    Mahalo for the answer to a non science person!

    But Question!!!

    Would science inventions not be SCIENCE? I understand that they are also Physics...which is another Science.
    "Science is the study of the physical and natural world through the scientific method." So science is a way of acquiring knowledge and once we know,we ωαηт to know more! The world we now study poses difficulties to us living. so we try to make the world around us more comfortable and to satisfy our hunger for knowledge we strive to enhance our studying abilities through inventions.... These inventions however are manifestations of our previous understanding about a subject area!

    In other words science inventions are manifestations of science discoveries,knowledge acquired through scientific method in other to make living more comfortable and discovery of the unknown possible and with increasing accuracy so as to limit errors and increase understanding of the universe at large,how it works,how it came to be,what it is now,what it will be.... Answers to these will help us inturn,so we can make sense of our frail human existence!
    SO, you are saying that inventions are science, due to people taking concepts of science discoveries and combining them with materials to create (invent) something that proves their theory, when it works.
    Yes but also to solve our human problems and make life more comfortable. For example the airplane works mainly on a principle of fluid. And the wright brothers studied fuild dynamics for 20years before building the fir airplane!

    One of the principle is that the faster a fuild the less pressure it exerts. This is now used in airplanes by geometry of it wings. The wings are shaped in such a way that the top side is larger than the under but air must get to the end at same time,so to make sure this is possible the air at the top travels faster than that at the under.

    This then means that the air under the wings exerts more pressure than that on top thereby pushing the plane upward#

    The above Is a manifestation of on fluid principle but while the airplane justify some sets of principles in physics it helps with human problem of transportation.
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