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    If you are about to graduate college with a large student loan to pay back and you hear about how much raising a child will cost you. How eager will you be to start a family? But you really love your wife or girlfriend and they are working hard at getting pregnant despite your concerns. Already feeling caught between a rock and a hard spot and somehow sex just doesn't seem like fun anymore.

    That ball & chain is not just the woman but the whole family thing. Makes you start thinking about the good old days when you could put your kids to work to help support the family. Oh! Damn, I'm rambling again and I start feeling better about not having any kids of my own. I think they are using an unrealistic formula for the cost of raising a kid. Many of those expenses you would have spent anyway. After all If you have a home expense adding a kid doesn't necessarily make it coast more does it? If you are buying food for two a small amount more for a kid won't amount to much will it? Oh! sure there can be some pretty costly expenses from time to time. But people with kids tend to advance faster in their pay scale. They have more incentive and many companies tend to give bigger raises to people raising families.

    Anybody else have any thoughts on this subject?

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    $241,080 seems like a lot of money, but that's spread out over time and when you consider it's being invested in the continuation of your line, your own way to immortality it doesn't seem so much. Also employees that have children are usually more settled and responsible, so regardless of the need for a greater salary to support their families it also helps to justify that they've earned the extra money.

    But this being said I don't see any real need to go straight down the baby route the minute you've left college and got a job, I do think people have some time here. People need to be young themselves and enjoy it before settling down, making sacrafices and accepting the responsibility of children, bringing another human life into the world is not something that should be rushed into.

    Besides this there are various expensive considerations in life, living costs, car, house etc..., so people have to plan round these expenses all the time, it doesn't really seem that much different with a family. You do the things you can afford in life, now if this means waiting to have a family I don't see anything wrong with this because it will mean that as a parent you are more financially able to provide for your children. This means you can all enjoy a better quality of life.

    It's also the case that in general, rich developed countries see parenthood taking place later in life for financial reasons.
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    What I found out it didn't' include college cost, it seemed to be a surprisingly high number. $12,500 a year per child! Yikes. My boy just turned 18 and I seriously doubt it was more than half that in today's money--probably less. But we hardly ever payed child care, because my wife make the decision to stay at home when he was young, boy cloths cost less than girl clothes etc. Even the additional activities such as violin lessons, horse back riding lessons, and many short summer camp learning wood skills, scouting etc probably only came to a couple thousand per year.

    As as Ascended pointed out, most don't have to go down that baby route and most actually do wait until their mid 20s before starting families now days--that helps with child raise during the best money making years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Robot View Post
    If you are about to graduate college with a large student loan to pay back and you hear about how much raising a child will cost you. How eager will you be to start a family? But you really love your wife or girlfriend and they are working hard at getting pregnant despite your concerns. Already feeling caught between a rock and a hard spot and somehow sex just doesn't seem like fun anymore.

    That ball & chain is not just the woman but the whole family thing. Makes you start thinking about the good old days when you could put your kids to work to help support the family. Oh! Damn, I'm rambling again and I start feeling better about not having any kids of my own. I think they are using an unrealistic formula for the cost of raising a kid. Many of those expenses you would have spent anyway. After all If you have a home expense adding a kid doesn't necessarily make it coast more does it? If you are buying food for two a small amount more for a kid won't amount to much will it? Oh! sure there can be some pretty costly expenses from time to time. But people with kids tend to advance faster in their pay scale. They have more incentive and many companies tend to give bigger raises to people raising families.

    Anybody else have any thoughts on this subject?

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    And there are underlying assumptions underlying many of these OMG Children cost a fortune! stories.

    Sure, kids cost a lot. But. Most people would have spent most of that money on something anyway. How many people would be that much better off if they'd had no kids? Certainly the wages forgone section of any costs would not have been lost, but how much of the wages received would have required some expenditures not in the children cost. A person or a couple with no children to feed, bathe and nag about homework don't need to get home for those tasks so they're free to stay out for meals. So they have different costs.

    There's very little doubt that most people could finish up with more money in the bank if they chose to have no, or fewer, children. But those numbers are pretty misleading - unless you're a skinflint who never buys anything for yourself or anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    And there are underlying assumptions underlying many of these OMG Children cost a fortune! stories.

    Sure, kids cost a lot. But. Most people would have spent most of that money on something anyway. How many people would be that much better off if they'd had no kids? Certainly the wages forgone section of any costs would not have been lost, but how much of the wages received would have required some expenditures not in the children cost. A person or a couple with no children to feed, bathe and nag about homework don't need to get home for those tasks so they're free to stay out for meals. So they have different costs.

    There's very little doubt that most people could finish up with more money in the bank if they chose to have no, or fewer, children. But those numbers are pretty misleading - unless you're a skinflint who never buys anything for yourself or anyone else.
    Was a partner in a company that I detested my partner (thank you hubby) for 13 years....I landed the biggest account ever....I toured, traveled, modeled...packed, invoiced, and did all the bookkeeping........I raised the money for one of our kids education....and then I said, "FUCK YOU" among other things to my partner and walked away....our son is my husband's responsibility..I did the dual degree cum sum laude daughter.

    You plan. You start from BIRTH to save.

    Oh and by the way...if you qualify there are a shitload of grants out there that no one looks at because they are LAZY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Robot View Post
    If you are about to graduate college with a large student loan to pay back and you hear about how much raising a child will cost you. How eager will you be to start a family? But you really love your wife or girlfriend and they are working hard at getting pregnant despite your concerns. Already feeling caught between a rock and a hard spot and somehow sex just doesn't seem like fun anymore.

    That ball & chain is not just the woman but the whole family thing. Makes you start thinking about the good old days when you could put your kids to work to help support the family. Oh! Damn, I'm rambling again and I start feeling better about not having any kids of my own. I think they are using an unrealistic formula for the cost of raising a kid. Many of those expenses you would have spent anyway. After all If you have a home expense adding a kid doesn't necessarily make it coast more does it? If you are buying food for two a small amount more for a kid won't amount to much will it? Oh! sure there can be some pretty costly expenses from time to time. But people with kids tend to advance faster in their pay scale. They have more incentive and many companies tend to give bigger raises to people raising families.

    Anybody else have any thoughts on this subject?

    STUDY: Raising a Child Will Cost You $241,080 - Video Dailymotion
    WOMEN are a ball and chain? Maybe I misread this!
    THey are usually more than willing to do their fair share!

    Please tell me I am too tired and I misread this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Robot View Post
    If you are about to graduate college with a large student loan to pay back and you hear about how much raising a child will cost you. How eager will you be to start a family? But you really love your wife or girlfriend and they are working hard at getting pregnant despite your concerns. Already feeling caught between a rock and a hard spot and somehow sex just doesn't seem like fun anymore.

    That ball & chain is not just the woman but the whole family thing. Makes you start thinking about the good old days when you could put your kids to work to help support the family. Oh! Damn, I'm rambling again and I start feeling better about not having any kids of my own. I think they are using an unrealistic formula for the cost of raising a kid. Many of those expenses you would have spent anyway. After all If you have a home expense adding a kid doesn't necessarily make it coast more does it? If you are buying food for two a small amount more for a kid won't amount to much will it? Oh! sure there can be some pretty costly expenses from time to time. But people with kids tend to advance faster in their pay scale. They have more incentive and many companies tend to give bigger raises to people raising families.

    Anybody else have any thoughts on this subject?

    STUDY: Raising a Child Will Cost You $241,080 - Video Dailymotion
    WOMEN are a ball and chain? Maybe I misread this!
    They are usually more than willing to do their fair share!

    Please tell me I am too tired and I misread this!
    Yes you did. The ball and chain is a cliche, but when a woman gets pregnant to hold on to a man, that cliche can become a strong feeling in a man. Especially in a man with limited income.
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    Then again if you are poor you will be paid to have a baby, pay for food, pay for day care, pay for doctors so that if you are poor the taxpayers will need to pay everything for you. Thgere's also Pell grants for poor children to attend college as well as other grants that are available to the poor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Robot View Post
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    If you are about to graduate college with a large student loan to pay back and you hear about how much raising a child will cost you. How eager will you be to start a family? But you really love your wife or girlfriend and they are working hard at getting pregnant despite your concerns. Already feeling caught between a rock and a hard spot and somehow sex just doesn't seem like fun anymore.

    That ball & chain is not just the woman but the whole family thing. Makes you start thinking about the good old days when you could put your kids to work to help support the family. Oh! Damn, I'm rambling again and I start feeling better about not having any kids of my own. I think they are using an unrealistic formula for the cost of raising a kid. Many of those expenses you would have spent anyway. After all If you have a home expense adding a kid doesn't necessarily make it coast more does it? If you are buying food for two a small amount more for a kid won't amount to much will it? Oh! sure there can be some pretty costly expenses from time to time. But people with kids tend to advance faster in their pay scale. They have more incentive and many companies tend to give bigger raises to people raising families.

    Anybody else have any thoughts on this subject?

    STUDY: Raising a Child Will Cost You $241,080 - Video Dailymotion
    WOMEN are a ball and chain? Maybe I misread this!
    They are usually more than willing to do their fair share!

    Please tell me I a Im too tired and I misread this!
    Yes you did. The ball and chain is a cliche, but when a woman gets pregnant to hold on to a man, that cliche can become a strong feeling in a man. Especially in a man with limited income.
    I know someone that happened to recently and the idiot didn't even guess she was doing this. I call it entrapment and I think it is WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG on every level.

    If a man doesn't love you for you, why in the WORLD would you want to get PREGNANT to make him MARRY you! He still doesn't have the committment factor that is needed to establish and develop a lasting realtionshp.

    I cannot fathom this, frankly.

    I just find it ******* wrong!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    Then again if you are poor you will be paid to have a baby, pay for food, pay for day care, pay for doctors so that if you are poor the taxpayers will need to pay everything for you. Thgere's also Pell grants for poor children to attend college as well as other grants that are available to the poor.
    Unfortunately you are correct.

    My gf's father dated a women with 4 children by 4 different fathers. It is how she lived. She got pregnant and paid for each child.

    I can't fathom that! What we have we worked really hard for and had to endure times of not 50 cents to spare from paycheck to paycheck literally! It has major paid off.

    I don't get that mentality!
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    My gf's father dated a women with 4 children by 4 different fathers. It is how she lived. She got pregnant and paid for each child.

    I can't fathom that! What we have we worked really hard for and had to endure times of not 50 cents to spare from paycheck to paycheck literally! It has major paid off.

    I don't get that mentality!
    Not everyone is the same. Some people have a strong work ethic, some don't. Some have the mental/physical horsepower they need to be successful, some don't. Some start off life with enough money to make it, some don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    I like kids, but I couldn't eat a whole one...
    I like my friends kids, then I get go home.
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    I know someone that happened to recently and the idiot didn't even guess she was doing this. I call it entrapment and I think it is WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG on every level.
    It's the same kind of upside-down, inside-out thinking that leads men to sabotage their partner's contraception - even though they have no known intention of staying with her. Just because.

    Women report that their partners engage in reproductive coercion because they want to leave a legacy with the woman or have the woman in their life forever as a few of the reasons they perpetrate the coercion
    Reproductive coercion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Reproductive Coercion: Connecting The Dots Between Partner Violence and Unintended Pregnancy
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    I know someone that happened to recently and the idiot didn't even guess she was doing this. I call it entrapment and I think it is WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG on every level.
    It's the same kind of upside-down, inside-out thinking that leads men to sabotage their partner's contraception - even though they have no known intention of staying with her. Just because.

    Women report that their partners engage in reproductive coercion because they want to leave a legacy with the woman or have the woman in their life forever as a few of the reasons they perpetrate the coercion
    Reproductive coercion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Reproductive Coercion: Connecting The Dots Between Partner Violence and Unintended Pregnancy
    Well I wasn't aware that that was even an issue, but will say however it happens it will still be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPanda View Post
    "I like kids...but I prefer holidays." - Gina Yashere
    I have BOTH! Mine are grown, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    I know someone that happened to recently and the idiot didn't even guess she was doing this. I call it entrapment and I think it is WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG on every level.
    It's the same kind of upside-down, inside-out thinking that leads men to sabotage their partner's contraception - even though they have no known intention of staying with her. Just because.

    Women report that their partners engage in reproductive coercion because they want to leave a legacy with the woman or have the woman in their life forever as a few of the reasons they perpetrate the coercion
    Reproductive coercion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Reproductive Coercion: Connecting The Dots Between Partner Violence and Unintended Pregnancy
    That is sick too!
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