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  1. #1 Comedy Central has no standards. 
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    I spend most of my day either watching comedy, writing comedy, drawing comedy, or posting comedy on the many forums/social networks I go on. At school, the hotly debated subjects are "What was one Tosh.0 last night? Did you watch Key and Peele yesterday?" along with the usual STD rumors. So, the past week I decided to lower my standards a bit and observe these popular culture phenomenons. Started off with watching an hour of Daniel Tosh's standup, covering topics from rape victims to having intercourse with month old babies. Asides from the incredibly offensive material, I failed to find more than perhaps one or two genuinely comedic lines throughout the entire routine. Note: I do enjoy Dave Chappelle sometimes.

    Strongly disappointed by that standup routine, I turned my T.V on to check out the channel's television shows. Discovering that there are really only 3 shows that are ever on there, Tosh.0, Key and Peele, and Southpark. "Note, this was on a weekend, so the weekday shows may be different or perhaps there was a marathon/special those days." I sat through all of them, and here's a basic analysis on them.

    South Park: Lots of cursing, sometimes a few decent jokes during the show, most/all the jokes used would only be considered comedic due to their offensiveness. Definitely geared towards 13 year olds who laugh every time they hear the words "penis" or "vagina".

    Key and Peele: The two "comedians" talk to the audience and present them with videos, usually parodies. The ones I watched were mostly poorly researched political satires. Being completely honest, just about anyone with a mild sense of humor could get together with friends and make equally comedic sketches. I do have to give it to them, instead of insulting rape victims and pedophiles, their source for laughter were a wide assortment of four letter words.

    Tosh.0: The show airs on Comedy Central everyday, usually with back to back episodes. I found this show even more tasteless than his standup routine. The show in a nutshell, Tosh watches viral videos "usually people getting hurt, or people breaking records, or people trying to show-off" and he makes fun of them. The videos are normally more comedic than his jokes about them, not to mention I've came across youtube trollers that have a better taste in humor. Asides from his trolling, he sometimes stars in his own original skits, which are at times funny, but usually the same tasteless, no, childish routines that his standup follows.

    Not only do these shows instill a poor sense of comedy upon my generation, they degrade us. Encouraging rape jokes, fat jokes, profanity, vulgarity, and downright lowliness. I miss good standup, I miss good comedy shows. What happened to the comedy bar set by Richard Pryor, Monty Python, and Mystery Science Theater 3000?


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    Over-all, I agree, but will defend South Park. It regularly covers heavy social issues, political issues that are actually nonsense and the absolute absurdity of human attitudes and our bass-ackward society.


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    South park may be better than my sample of only around 2 episodes, the others I've had much more experience with.
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    Jimmy Carr is my favourite comedian, here are 10 of his jokes:

    If we're all God's children, what's so special about Jesus?

    Ten years after the Chernobyl accident, and am I the only one thats disappointed? Still no superheroes.

    I'm not being condescending; I'm too busy thinking about far more important things you wouldn't understand.

    My father always used to say, 'What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger,' - 'til the accident.

    I'm not saying Michael Jackson is guilty. But if I was a billionaire paedophile, Id buy a funfair for my back garden.

    A big girl once came up to me after a show and said 'I think you're fatist.' I said 'No, no. I think you're fattest'.

    I have no problems with buying tampons. I am a fairly modern man. But apparently they're not a "proper" present.

    I live near a remedial school. There's a sign on the road outside that says, 'SLOW CHILDREN'. That can't be good for their self-esteem.

    Id rather see a pregnant woman standing on the bus than a fat girl sitting down crying.

    A lady with a clipboard stopped me in the street the other day. She said, 'Can you spare a few minutes for cancer research?' I said, 'All right, but we won't get much done.'
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    To start off, Mystery Science Theater 3000 is the greatest show ever made. To appeal for anything of its like to happen again is unfair to current television. In all likelihood, nothing will ever match it or surpass it. The avatar may allude to my bias.

    That having been said, you're complaining about being offended by comics and shows who are appealing to the new standards of entertainment. As we desensitize ourselves to rude jokes, the jokes must get ruder. Comedians like Tosh are no strangers to the conflict. In fact, my guess would be that he thrives on it. He isn't all that funny, so most of the attention he gets must come from shock and awe comedy.

    And let's not forget that Carr is one of the edgiest comics out there as well. You might like those jokes, but if you find Tosh offensive, you'll probably find Carr offensive.
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    Ok so you liked them, here's some from the Scottish comedian Frankie Boyle, oh and I picked out probarbly his least offensive ones.

    RyanAir have been getting a hard time because they’ve launched a 7 flight to New York. Although as always with RyanAir it does land slightly outside of New York. In Dublin.

    The average life expectancy rate in some parts of Glasgow is 54. If you’ve ever been there, you’ll realize that that’s maybe a bit long.

    [If this is the answer, what is the question: Up To 18 Months] How long is a Scottish winter?

    The government are considering spending 3million on a state funeral for Margaret Thatcher when she dies. For 3million they could buy everyone in Scotland a shovel, and we'll dig a hole deep enough to deliver her to Satan ourselves.

    Does anyone find it ironic how a program aimed at old people is called 'Countdown'?

    I hate all this terrorist business. I used to love the days when you could look at an unattended bag on the train or bus and think, I'm havin that!'

    Welcome to Glasgow - the city where we punch people who are on fire.

    I was going through a town called Bathgate at around 11 o'clock at night. And there was a guy leaning and p*ssing against a front door. He then took out his keys and went inside.

    Do you think George Bush actually knows who Gordon Brown is? He probably just thinks Tony Blair's put on weight and had a mild stroke.

    Scientists have just built the world's biggest supercollider, and they're doing experiments to see what makes up protons. I hope that if the experiment's successful, the whole of our reality will dissolve, and a big sign will up come that says: Level Two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    South park may be better than my sample of only around 2 episodes, the others I've had much more experience with.
    With south park you have to look past the vulgarity and crudeness that is intended to keep the attention of 13 year olds as you suggested, to see the social and political undertones that the show takes on. When you disregard the language and just pay attention to whatever challenge the boys are facing, usually they are addressing a greater social problem from a point of view that many of us over look because we are too distracted by the details to see the obvious elephant in the room. I actually make my kids watch it sometimes and we talk about the issues brought up in a more serious matter then.

    For instance the episode where some parents were disallowing their kids to get vaccinations because they believed some internet rumors that vaccinations causes Aspergers syndrome. Usually Cartman takes on the attitude of the stupid masses and Kyle is the sensible one, while Kenny and Butters are the poor innocent bystanders that get hurt along the way.
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    You don't see this type of slapstick anymore.

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    And when Laurel and Hardy were popular, the people of that time weren't amused by jesters with painted faces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    To start off, Mystery Science Theater 3000 is the greatest show ever made. To appeal for anything of its like to happen again is unfair to current television. In all likelihood, nothing will ever match it or surpass it. The avatar may allude to my bias.

    That having been said, you're complaining about being offended by comics and shows who are appealing to the new standards of entertainment. As we desensitize ourselves to rude jokes, the jokes must get ruder. Comedians like Tosh are no strangers to the conflict. In fact, my guess would be that he thrives on it. He isn't all that funny, so most of the attention he gets must come from shock and awe comedy.

    And let's not forget that Carr is one of the edgiest comics out there as well. You might like those jokes, but if you find Tosh offensive, you'll probably find Carr offensive.
    I actually don't find Carr that offensive, really nothing offends me in any great manner unless I see that it offends someone else. My point was that it seems that the recent trend is to make jokes so taboo or otherwise offensive to others instead of thinking up genuinely comedic dialog. I do agree with you on MST3K, it's by far the greatest television show I've ever seen. That being said, the method of comedy used on the show "commentary comedy" is much easier to do than creating original material. The only downfall I found with Mystery Theater were the scenes themselves, I loved it when they commented on the movies, but the actual skits on the show were mediocre to good. I assure you that Tosh is considerably more offensive than Carr, I recall him referring to U.S military personnel as "Those who were too dumb to get through college" or something along those lines, as well as asking the audience if it would be funny to rape a woman "who'm he pointed to in the crowd".
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    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
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    To start off, Mystery Science Theater 3000 is the greatest show ever made. To appeal for anything of its like to happen again is unfair to current television. In all likelihood, nothing will ever match it or surpass it. The avatar may allude to my bias.

    That having been said, you're complaining about being offended by comics and shows who are appealing to the new standards of entertainment. As we desensitize ourselves to rude jokes, the jokes must get ruder. Comedians like Tosh are no strangers to the conflict. In fact, my guess would be that he thrives on it. He isn't all that funny, so most of the attention he gets must come from shock and awe comedy.

    And let's not forget that Carr is one of the edgiest comics out there as well. You might like those jokes, but if you find Tosh offensive, you'll probably find Carr offensive.
    I actually don't find Carr that offensive, really nothing offends me in any great manner unless I see that it offends someone else. My point was that it seems that the recent trend is to make jokes so taboo or otherwise offensive to others instead of thinking up genuinely comedic dialog. I do agree with you on MST3K, it's by far the greatest television show I've ever seen. That being said, the method of comedy used on the show "commentary comedy" is much easier to do than creating original material. The only downfall I found with Mystery Theater were the scenes themselves, I loved it when they commented on the movies, but the actual skits on the show were mediocre to good. I assure you that Tosh is considerably more offensive than Carr, I recall him referring to U.S military personnel as "Those who were too dumb to get through college" or something along those lines, as well as asking the audience if it would be funny to rape a woman "who'm he pointed to in the crowd".
    Even his jokes that with the Afghan war casualties increasing, Britain is going to have a better paralympic team? A LOT of people found that offensive. I won't even repeat his joke about, "You know your girlfriend is too young when...".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
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    To start off, Mystery Science Theater 3000 is the greatest show ever made. To appeal for anything of its like to happen again is unfair to current television. In all likelihood, nothing will ever match it or surpass it. The avatar may allude to my bias.

    That having been said, you're complaining about being offended by comics and shows who are appealing to the new standards of entertainment. As we desensitize ourselves to rude jokes, the jokes must get ruder. Comedians like Tosh are no strangers to the conflict. In fact, my guess would be that he thrives on it. He isn't all that funny, so most of the attention he gets must come from shock and awe comedy.

    And let's not forget that Carr is one of the edgiest comics out there as well. You might like those jokes, but if you find Tosh offensive, you'll probably find Carr offensive.
    I actually don't find Carr that offensive, really nothing offends me in any great manner unless I see that it offends someone else. My point was that it seems that the recent trend is to make jokes so taboo or otherwise offensive to others instead of thinking up genuinely comedic dialog. I do agree with you on MST3K, it's by far the greatest television show I've ever seen. That being said, the method of comedy used on the show "commentary comedy" is much easier to do than creating original material. The only downfall I found with Mystery Theater were the scenes themselves, I loved it when they commented on the movies, but the actual skits on the show were mediocre to good. I assure you that Tosh is considerably more offensive than Carr, I recall him referring to U.S military personnel as "Those who were too dumb to get through college" or something along those lines, as well as asking the audience if it would be funny to rape a woman "who'm he pointed to in the crowd".
    Even his jokes that with the Afghan war casualties increasing, Britain is going to have a better paralympic team? A LOT of people found that offensive. I won't even repeat his joke about, "You know your girlfriend is too young when...".

    Mystery Science Theater 3000 is an acquired taste.
    I wasn't aware of those quotes, perhaps he doesn't receive the same amount of media attention? Also, in case you aren't aware and are interested, the original creator of MST3K now has a touring show called "Cinematic Titanic".
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    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
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    To start off, Mystery Science Theater 3000 is the greatest show ever made. To appeal for anything of its like to happen again is unfair to current television. In all likelihood, nothing will ever match it or surpass it. The avatar may allude to my bias.

    That having been said, you're complaining about being offended by comics and shows who are appealing to the new standards of entertainment. As we desensitize ourselves to rude jokes, the jokes must get ruder. Comedians like Tosh are no strangers to the conflict. In fact, my guess would be that he thrives on it. He isn't all that funny, so most of the attention he gets must come from shock and awe comedy.

    And let's not forget that Carr is one of the edgiest comics out there as well. You might like those jokes, but if you find Tosh offensive, you'll probably find Carr offensive.
    I actually don't find Carr that offensive, really nothing offends me in any great manner unless I see that it offends someone else. My point was that it seems that the recent trend is to make jokes so taboo or otherwise offensive to others instead of thinking up genuinely comedic dialog. I do agree with you on MST3K, it's by far the greatest television show I've ever seen. That being said, the method of comedy used on the show "commentary comedy" is much easier to do than creating original material. The only downfall I found with Mystery Theater were the scenes themselves, I loved it when they commented on the movies, but the actual skits on the show were mediocre to good. I assure you that Tosh is considerably more offensive than Carr, I recall him referring to U.S military personnel as "Those who were too dumb to get through college" or something along those lines, as well as asking the audience if it would be funny to rape a woman "who'm he pointed to in the crowd".
    Tosh.0 is more often than not just gross. He reminds me of the school yard bully that does anything he can to draw attention away from the fact that he is unattractive, stupid, and of no use to any species on the planet. He must have idolized the guys from Jackass and Tom Green.

    Honestly, if they wanted a comedy show that was based on commentary of youtube videos they should have given a show to the guy that does =3, Ray William Johnson. http://www.youtube.com/user/RayWilliamJohnson
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    Tosh is witless scum in my view.

    otoh, I'd agree with others that South Park is pretty good - for certain year 8 tastes. I certainly watched it fairly regularly several years ago. If they're still doing the same stuff now that they were then, they're useful. (For getting some socially responsible ideas into heads that wouldn't listen otherwise.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    I wasn't aware of those quotes, perhaps he doesn't receive the same amount of media attention? Also, in case you aren't aware and are interested, the original creator of MST3K now has a touring show called "Cinematic Titanic".
    Well, I'm actually a much bigger fan of British entertainment than American. I love Dr. Who, Torchwood, Top Gear UK, Python, etc. American shows are typically reality TV garbage or just offensive shock humor. I don't find it amusing. Carr probably doesn't get as much coverage here in the states for the things he says.

    As for MST3K, I'm kind of a guru on the guys. I've been to MST-con, seen Cinematic Titanic, and all the RiffTrax. Even went to the taping of the Manos live riff they did not too long ago. My wife would probably say I have an unhealthy attachment to the show. I even have a cling of the guys in the theater on my rear window. Which is saying something because I drive a 350Z convertible and the rear window is about the size of a half dollar coin to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
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    I wasn't aware of those quotes, perhaps he doesn't receive the same amount of media attention? Also, in case you aren't aware and are interested, the original creator of MST3K now has a touring show called "Cinematic Titanic".
    Well, I'm actually a much bigger fan of British entertainment than American. I love Dr. Who, Torchwood, Top Gear UK, Python, etc. American shows are typically reality TV garbage or just offensive shock humor. I don't find it amusing. Carr probably doesn't get as much coverage here in the states for the things he says.

    As for MST3K, I'm kind of a guru on the guys. I've been to MST-con, seen Cinematic Titanic, and all the RiffTrax. Even went to the taping of the Manos live riff they did not too long ago. My wife would probably say I have an unhealthy attachment to the show. I even have a cling of the guys in the theater on my rear window. Which is saying something because I drive a 350Z convertible and the rear window is about the size of a half dollar coin to begin with.
    I agree on the British television. The top gear U.S is dreadful, but thankfully I have BBC and get to watch Hammond, Clarkson, and Mays over whoever the stars are on the American version. I'm a more avid fan of Python's movies than their skits, but both are great. I've only recently discovered MST3K since I was only 4 when it stopped airing on television , but usually watch a few hours of it each day to catch up on my deficiencies in decent humor.
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    Neverfly and I are particularly fond of "Are you being served?"... There is only one remaining cast member still alive. The man who played Capt. Peacock died this month.
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    otoh, I'd agree with others that South Park is pretty good - for certain year 8 tastes.
    It's lowbrow enough and designed that way, on purpose. It's supposed to appeal to stupid people and hopes to make them at least 3 I.Q. points smarter by the end of a season.
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    It's supposed to appeal to stupid people and hopes to make them at least 3 I.Q. points smarter by the end of a season.
    Does that mean that I now have an IQ of 3?
    Woohooo!

    I only need to watch 20 more episodes and I will be a genius with an IQ of 100!
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    I only need to watch 20 more episodes and I will be a genius with an IQ of 100!
    You idiot! Twenty episodes would make your I.Q. like a hundred and fifty!
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    I only need to watch 20 more episodes and I will be a genius with an IQ of 100!
    You idiot! Twenty episodes would make your I.Q. like a hundred and fifty!
    All you've done is watch series 1 and now you are like all high and mighty.

    Just you wait !!

    When I have watched like loads of South Park - I will come back here and shove your mathemagics up your brain hole!
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    The only things I watch on CC are Daily Show and Colbert Report. Jon Stewart is a genius.
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    I wasn't aware of those quotes, perhaps he doesn't receive the same amount of media attention? Also, in case you aren't aware and are interested, the original creator of MST3K now has a touring show called "Cinematic Titanic".
    Well, I'm actually a much bigger fan of British entertainment than American. I love Dr. Who, Torchwood, Top Gear UK, Python, etc. American shows are typically reality TV garbage or just offensive shock humor. I don't find it amusing. Carr probably doesn't get as much coverage here in the states for the things he says.

    As for MST3K, I'm kind of a guru on the guys. I've been to MST-con, seen Cinematic Titanic, and all the RiffTrax. Even went to the taping of the Manos live riff they did not too long ago. My wife would probably say I have an unhealthy attachment to the show. I even have a cling of the guys in the theater on my rear window. Which is saying something because I drive a 350Z convertible and the rear window is about the size of a half dollar coin to begin with.
    I agree on the British television. The top gear U.S is dreadful, but thankfully I have BBC and get to watch Hammond, Clarkson, and Mays over whoever the stars are on the American version. I'm a more avid fan of Python's movies than their skits, but both are great. I've only recently discovered MST3K since I was only 4 when it stopped airing on television , but usually watch a few hours of it each day to catch up on my deficiencies in decent humor.
    I don't know if you've ever watched the Carry On films, they repeat these like a hundred times a year on british television, but honestly you can sit and watch them over and over again, they are genuinely funny and have just the right amount of 'sauce' to be considered tastleful.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_...film_series%29

    Probarbly the best one is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_On_Doctor

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    The only things I watch on CC are Daily Show and Colbert Report. Jon Stewart is a genius.
    Most definitively. Colbert is not bad either, its creepy character makes a very good catalyst for debunking propaganda.
    As a side not I think Colbert is quite educated in science. All his interview with scientists are great and fun.
    There is also for example a cool small "conference" with Neil DeGrass Tyson
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    I spend most of my day either watching comedy,...
    Me too, reading thescienceforum

    Seriously, how is it possible not to mention/watch your Daily Show, nor your Colbert Report ?
    Because I don't find Colbert Report nor the Daily show to be tasteless comedies, and therefore didn't involve them in my criticism on the negative aspects of Comedy Central.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
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    I spend most of my day either watching comedy,...
    Me too, reading thescienceforum

    Seriously, how is it possible not to mention/watch your Daily Show, nor your Colbert Report ?
    Because I don't find Colbert Report nor the Daily show to be tasteless comedies, and therefore didn't involve them in my criticism on the negative aspects of Comedy Central.
    Well in fairness then, referring to Comedy Central as having no standards is a bit of an overgeneralization then. Some Americans are fat greedy bastards, actually a lot of them are, but some are good decent people. So you can't say that Americans have no standards.

    It would be more accurate to say that Comedy Central, like Americans, has some elements that are displeasing to your pallet.
    Speaking badly about people after they are gone and jumping on the bash the band wagon must do very well for a low self-esteem.
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    South Park is sometimes too crude. But, at it's best, it is genuine genius.

    Regarding Jon Stewart... I like watching to see his take on issues, but Colbert is the better comedic talent.
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    That's why i'm not interested in it same for other stations that are like it. (stations on TV and internet sites) with some exceptions .. It's a great way to make money though. In fact if I could gather a group of people and be devoted for about a year or so..
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    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
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    I spend most of my day either watching comedy,...
    Me too, reading thescienceforum

    Seriously, how is it possible not to mention/watch your Daily Show, nor your Colbert Report ?
    Because I don't find Colbert Report nor the Daily show to be tasteless comedies, and therefore didn't involve them in my criticism on the negative aspects of Comedy Central.
    Take it easy man, because that is the risk when defining "standard". Usually, if I want bad comedy, I turn on CNN MSNBC or FOX news (not really but the corresponding BS seller in Belgium). Let's go an kill 500 thousandths peoples for bringing them democracy ! lol what a good joke !

    Seriously man, even show like "drawn together" is just intellectual sweeties and delicate "jokes" compared to the mainstream propaganda channels...
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