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    this is one of the interesting ones and of concern as it was taken today and it has been like that for about a month..

    warning..its kinda gross..

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    its our cats missing nose..


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    What about the cat?!

    For gods sakes, take him to the Vet!

    NOW!
    Can you imagine how miserable a creature must be with their Nose Jacked up? Trying to breath and snort. Urgh... I have half a mind to start the car.


     

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    he is an old cat to start with..and not to be too caloused about it..but cats are a dime a dozen..thats why we are cat ppl instead of dog ppl..we get more attached to dogs, iow if we had a dog,we would spend more money on it to keep it healthy..

    i hold no illusion that my cat is just waiting for me to die, so he can have a free meal..

    btw we think he stuck his nose where it didn't belong and it got bit by a dog..we think this because our other cat came in a few days later with a bite on his leg..(little brother sticking up for big bro? or trying to be like him?)
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    oh..addendum..never use superglue without a face shield, to seal a cats nose owie..poor christa..
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    on the cats behalf, I have told Squirrel QUITE A FEW times, to take him to the dammed vet!
     

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    Humans are far more a dime a dozen. If you cannot be responsible for the pet, you shouldn't have it.

    Take the Cat to the Vet or offer him up to a home that will.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
    Humans are far more a dime a dozen. If you cannot be responsible for the pet, you shouldn't have it.

    Take the Cat to the Vet or offer him up to a home that will.
    or take him to the vet like I've said
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christa View Post
    on the cats behalf, I have told Squirrel QUITE A FEW times, to take him to the dammed vet!
    um..i am on a limited income deary..you make more money than me...
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    If she gave you the funds would you take him?
     

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    it would have to be a wendsday for me to take him in..she could take him in when she goes to work, she leaves about 9:30(i leave at 7), if she left a little earlier she could drop him off..i could easily pick him up after work (i get off around 10:30) (oh..it is a 30 minute drive to work or vet from our house)
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    ya, umm... u need to take him in, and tell them about it.. I can't do the wait while needing to go to work... "Ya, umm.. I need to drop my cat off to get looked at so I can goto work"...Where as you can talk to them about it, and tell them the story... then tell them to give u the bill and we will pay it...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christa View Post
    ya, umm... u need to take him in, and tell them about it.. I can't do the wait while needing to go to work... "Ya, umm.. I need to drop my cat off to get looked at so I can goto work"...Where as you can talk to them about it, and tell them the story... then tell them to give u the bill and we will pay it...
    so drop him off and tell them i will be in to 'wait' ..
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    10:30 am or pm? if its am why can't you take him after you get home. taking him in on the way to work runs her a risk of being late to work. Sometimes it takes a while to deal with all the processing just to get in. They don't let you just drop them off like a bag of dirty laundry. You wouldn't do that with your kid.

    show up at Er.. "hey docs, here's my kid. Something ripped her nose off. Take care of it will ya, Ill be back this afternoon to pick her up. Toodles!"

    Seems to me, and I am sorry if you think I am out of line, but it seems more that it is an issue of convenience and just not caring that causes you to not take him in. Because when one obstacle is removed, even hypothetically, you find another.
     

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    and..

    before i ask Mods to delete this derailment..

    Neverfly consider..

    the reason we both get along and fight..

    we are both emotionaly driven.
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    a cat is not a kid..

    now a dog..that is a different story..
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    Quote Originally Posted by NMSquirrel View Post
    a cat is not a kid..

    now a dog..that is a different story..
    Imagine your nose in that shape. Mouth breathing and snuffling. In pain. Breathing in blood, pus and bacteria.

    I say it again, if you cannot be bothered to be responsible, offer the cat up to a home that can.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
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    a cat is not a kid..

    now a dog..that is a different story..
    Imagine your nose in that shape. Mouth breathing and snuffling. In pain. Breathing in blood, pus and bacteria.

    I say it again, if you cannot be bothered to be responsible, offer the cat up to a home that can.
    you want a kitty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NMSquirrel View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by NMSquirrel View Post
    a cat is not a kid..

    now a dog..that is a different story..
    Imagine your nose in that shape. Mouth breathing and snuffling. In pain. Breathing in blood, pus and bacteria.

    I say it again, if you cannot be bothered to be responsible, offer the cat up to a home that can.
    you want a kitty?
    Would love to, but we aren't allowed one here. but respite or foster homes are out there. you can call SPCA for foster home referrals or other advice. But leaving him to suffer out of convenience is cruel.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMSquirrel View Post
    a cat is not a kid..

    now a dog..that is a different story..
    Why is a cat any different than a dog? Neither are human. They are both "just animals". Why attribute more value to one than the other? They, like humans, are all living animals with whatever value you place in them. Even human beings only have the value that others place on them. As we know, human beings are often considered expendable when its convenient to do so. In any case it's cruel by most standards and laws are in place to prevent it.
     

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    Would love to, but we aren't allowed one here. but respite or foster homes are out there. you can call SPCA for foster home referrals or other advice. But leaving him to suffer out of convenience is cruel.
    taking a cat to the spca in an attempt to avert..What? do you know what they do with them if they can't find a home?
    how many programs are there that encourage spay and nueter?
    there is a reason for that..There are too many cats in the world..

    and fyi..we have been watching him closely, it appears he is not in any relative discomfort...and most of what i read online about injuries to a cats flesh says to watch it and unless it gets worse, the cats natural system should take care of it..

    can we be done with this?
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    i was hoping to get some CONSTRUCTIVE advice with it in the least..not a rant about what a bad cat dad i am..
    But you were offered advice, to take the animal to a vet. I'm sure that any vet will work with you on payment for their help. So do us all and the cat a big favor and take it to a vet and see what the vet says and if the vet will accept a payment plan. Or as was advised, give to cat to a good home who can addord to help it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    i was hoping to get some CONSTRUCTIVE advice with it in the least..not a rant about what a bad cat dad i am..
    But you were offered advice, to take the animal to a vet. I'm sure that any vet will work with you on payment for their help. So do us all and the cat a big favor and take it to a vet and see what the vet says and if the vet will accept a payment plan. Or as was advised, give to cat to a good home who can addord to help it.
    so he should have left it at 'take it to the vet'..
    or at the very least ask for a deletion of the pic.
    not use it as an excuse to destroy a well intentioned thread..<edit, irrelevant line since thread was split>
    it show where his priorities are..
    it is not his responsibility for my cat.
    and he still doesn't understand taking responsibiliity for his own emotional sate of being..(IOW he is perfectly content watching my attempt to encourage my daughter to go down in flames just because he feels differently about cats than i do..)
    hell if i was that careless i would take him to my moms ex and let him shoot him to put him out of any misery(which i have said he does not appear to be in any misery) so its still MY CALL as to what to do with my cat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NMSquirrel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    i was hoping to get some CONSTRUCTIVE advice with it in the least..not a rant about what a bad cat dad i am..
    But you were offered advice, to take the animal to a vet. I'm sure that any vet will work with you on payment for their help. So do us all and the cat a big favor and take it to a vet and see what the vet says and if the vet will accept a payment plan. Or as was advised, give to cat to a good home who can addord to help it.
    so he should have left it at 'take it to the vet'..
    or at the very least ask for a deletion of the pic.
    not use it as an excuse to destroy a well intentioned thread..
    it show where his priorities are..
    it is not his responsibility for my cat.
    and he still doesn't understand taking responsibiliity for his own emotional sate of being..(IOW he is perfectly content watching my attempt to encourage my daughter to go down in flames just because he feels differently about cats than i do..)
    hell if i was that careless i would take him to my moms ex and let him shoot him to put him out of any misery(which i have said he does not appear to be in any misery) so its still MY CALL as to what to do with my cat.

    MODS PLEASE CLEAN THIS UP!
    maybe there is still a chance to encourage christa..
    (dont make me question the moderatorship..)
    oooh scary, you may question the moderatorship, like that threat EVER worries moderators. They are used to that. It is part of their job. It wasn't just Neverfly urging you to take him to the vet. It was also me and YOUR VERY OWN DAUGHTER. If you don't like your personal life being under scrutiny then don't bring it to the forum. We haven't been emotional. Don't you realize that any one of your neighbors could report you the police for animal neglect and/or cruelty for failing to get the medical attention for it that it needs? We are trying to help you. And the cat. But considering the excuses you give for not getting it checked out, I personally wouldn't blame someone for turning you in if they did. Using Christa to try and get sympathy is ridiculous.

    Christa has excellent photography skills and I think she probably knows well what she wants to do. Does she want to be a photographer? or is she just showing talent and so therefore you feel obliged to pressure her into taking it further? Like I do with my kids and programming? She will do what she wants to do. She is a big girl and can think for herself. She is a mother herself. I am not saying she doesn't need a hand. Everyone does from time to time, bipolar or not. But she is not a child. She will figure out in due time what she wants to do. And did you ever consider that it may be the condition she sees the cat in that is distracting. Or perhaps your pushing to get so many of your personal details and hers out in the internet world for all to see that is distracting? What will you do next? I don't understand why you seem to think her world revolves around this forum. I am sure she has plenty of other things going on in her life that are distracting her from doing what YOU think she ought to be doing. Like maybe the things SHE wants to be doing.

    I am sure you love and adore your daughter and that you are a very good father, but using her to try and make us feel guilty for telling you to do the right thing by the cat is ridiculous. You are better than that. At least you used to be.

    on that note this will be my last post to the thread. I will forever more have you on ignore and you need not worry about getting anymore advice from your friend seagypsy.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NMSquirrel View Post
    i was hoping to get some CONSTRUCTIVE advice with it in the least..not a rant about what a bad cat dad i am..
    oooh scary, you may question the moderatorship, like that threat EVER worries moderators. They are used to that. It is part of their job.
    true that..



    We haven't been emotional.
    really??
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    What about the cat?!

    For gods sakes, take him to the Vet!

    NOW!
    Can you imagine how miserable a creature must be with their Nose Jacked up? Trying to breath and snort. Urgh... I have half a mind to start the car.
    (red emphasis mine)

    tell me he wasn't being emotional and i will call you a liar!
    notice how he is focusing on his imagination and not reality.



    Don't you realize that any one of your neighbors could report you the police for animal neglect and/or cruelty for failing to get the medical attention for it that it needs?
    no they won't..its a stupid cat..not a dog..most every person i know does not care for cats. including my neighbors.

    We are trying to help you. And the cat.
    no you are not!..you are using that as an excuse to have your little emotional outburst.

    But considering the excuses you give for not getting it checked out, I personally wouldn't blame someone for turning you in if they did.
    again..not your call..you do not have all the information..(well you do but you keep ignoring it in favor of your emotional state of being)(IOW i keep telling you he is not in distress but you do not want to hear that.)


    Using Christa to try and get sympathy is ridiculous.
    again refusal to PAY ATTENTION!
    you guys had jacked her pic thread!
    and you are still trying to blame me for YOUR ACTIONS!


    Christa has excellent photography skills and I think she probably knows well what she wants to do. Does she want to be a photographer? or is she just showing talent and so therefore you feel obliged to pressure her into taking it further?
    why is this here? did you put it before they split the thread?
    yes i think she has a talent..no i am not 'pressuring' her, i am trying to encourage her.

    Like I do with my kids and programming? She will do what she wants to do. She is a big girl and can think for herself. She is a mother herself.
    can't speak to what you do with your kids..(i was wondering if you guys had kids..)
    she is barely out of the obstinate phase..(no matter what i say, it is the worst advice i can give..) so i have a pretty decent clue as to how not to discourage her..()pressure is so not the right word


    And did you ever consider that it may be the condition she sees the cat in that is distracting.
    did you ever consider that the condition of his nose looks worse than it is?
    (emotional response)

    Or perhaps your pushing to get so many of your personal details and hers out in the internet world for all to see that is distracting?
    logical fallicy

    What will you do next? I don't understand why you seem to think her world revolves around this forum.
    assumption.
    logical fallicy, irrelevant association

    I am sure she has plenty of other things going on in her life that are distracting her from doing what YOU think she ought to be doing.
    assumption, invalid claim, still trying to justify your own emotional state of being.


    Like maybe the things SHE wants to be doing.
    she is.

    I am sure you love and adore your daughter and that you are a very good father,
    i would believe this more if it wasn't followed by an attempt to justify your own emotional state of being..

    but using her to try and make us feel guilty for telling you to do the right thing by the cat is ridiculous.
    excuse me??
    you are blaming me because you 'feel' guilty???
    maybe you feel guilty because you are!
    Take responsibility for your own feelings and quit blaming everyone else..


    on that note this will be my last post to the thread. I will forever more have you on ignore and you need not worry about getting anymore advice from your friend seagypsy.
    no big loss..
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    Quote Originally Posted by NMSquirrel View Post
    no they won't..its a stupid cat..not a dog..most every person i know does not care for cats. including my neighbors.
    That's the entire point right there. For all your fussing- it's that attitude that got you the reactions you got.
     

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    sorry Never..didn't see what you put..i have you on Ignore..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
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    no they won't..its a stupid cat..not a dog..most every person i know does not care for cats. including my neighbors.
    That's the entire point right there. For all your fussing- it's that attitude that got you the reactions you got.
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    which you should be proud of as i have no one else on my ignore list..(only have two at sciforums)
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    Since you can't even see the other participant's posts in this little scuffle of yours, I'll close it.
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    I was asked to post the following update:

    Quote Originally Posted by NMSquirrel
    Joey went to the vet today, he has a new nose now..he comes home tomorrow..he gets the cone of shame for awhile but other than him hating us for it..i am sure the nose will look better...
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