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  1. #1 What is this grid ball? 
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    Hi this is my first post -apologies if this is not the correct forum. I post at another board and someone asked about this thing:

    ...There are some pretty smart and clever folks there but so far no one has come up with an answer. Anyone here know what it might be? Thanks


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    How would we know if we were right about our guess?


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    The picture was taken by a member there. So it's kind of a first hand thing. The object is in a refuse area of a college. I will post any good guesses back there to help confirm. The head of the art department was asked about it and had never seen it. So it's probably not an art project. Given the level of precision and the sheer number of hours that went in to it it seems to me it was something relatively important.
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    So they know what it is but aren't saying? So again how would we know if we were right or not?
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    A member there found it, snapped a pic and posted it asking for help in identifying it. So far no has offered a guess that couldn't reasonably be discounted. No one knows what it is.
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    From the construction it looks like it is intended to handle very high pressure (or very low?). Something from the chemistry or physics labs? Reaction chamber (chemical or nuclear)?
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    I've seen this before. Not in a picture- live. Where the "grid" meets at the top, it spirals very slightly in a twist. This means that some of the edges at the top are raised, making a stair step like structure.
    And for the life of me, I cannot remember... If it comes back to me, I'll post on it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    From the construction it looks like it is intended to handle very high pressure (or very low?). Something from the chemistry or physics labs? Reaction chamber (chemical or nuclear)?
    that was my impression too, some sort of pressure vessel - for what purpose i can't tell
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    It's not a pressure vessel.
    Apart from the potential leaks between panels the fact that there's only 1 screw/ bolt per face would indicate it's not intended to withstand much.
    Present something like that to Lloyd's for certification and they'd go spare!
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    you're probably right - still, it seems to be intended to keep a rigid shape + maybe the pressures are not at the level normally associated with industrial pressure vessels
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    It's not a pressure vessel.
    Apart from the potential leaks between panels the fact that there's only 1 screw/ bolt per face would indicate it's not intended to withstand much.
    Yes, not for pressure. I wish I could see inside the sphere thing and see if there is a baffle.
    I'm showing my age here- been wracking my brains and my memory refuses to call up what I saw that was so similar.

    It looks to me like a gas mixing chamber.

    That said, it could be a part from anything and where it was found may not be a clue.
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    There is an 8-page conversation about it on the Snopes forum, and a few other photos (including one of the interior), but they couldn't come up with an answer either.
    One (logical to me) conclusion was that it might have an engineering project on designing/ manufacturing panels to form a sphere.
    But that wouldn't explain why it has the large inlets and the pipe work.
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    I'm just glad it's not my job to assemble those things.
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    Considering it was found on a college campus...I'm going to say it's some sort of bong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
    I've seen this before. Not in a picture- live. Where the "grid" meets at the top, it spirals very slightly in a twist. This means that some of the edges at the top are raised, making a stair step like structure.And for the life of me, I cannot remember... If it comes back to me, I'll post on it...
    Hmmm, looking closely at the photo it seems you might be right. A tantalizing bit of info. Hope it comes to you.
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    Also, I'll be happy to provide a link to the original forum it was posted to if that is within the rules (maybe a mod could weigh in on that?). There are more pictures and there is quite an interesting discussion about what it might and can't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White SIFL View Post
    Hi this is my first post -apologies if this is not the correct forum. I post at another board and someone asked about this thing:

    ...There are some pretty smart and clever folks there but so far no one has come up with an answer. Anyone here know what it might be? Thanks
    It's friggin awesome that's what it is. and I WANT one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White SIFL View Post
    Also, I'll be happy to provide a link to the original forum it was posted to if that is within the rules (maybe a mod could weigh in on that?). There are more pictures and there is quite an interesting discussion about what it might and can't be.
    Go ahead. I'd like to see more pictures of it.

    I don't think I've ever seen pipes made like that, with bolted flanges along the edges. Something like that would leak like a sieve. It would be pretty hard to seal it, which is probably why it's in the scrap heap.
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    The additional pictures are on page 6 of the Straight Dope thread.
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    The numerous number of bolts and inlets reminds me of a casting mold I'd once handled. Something like that may have two or more inner layers comprised of finely packed sand/silica, clay, wax, or latex. A custom build injection mold perhaps? Although the number of exterior plates that are held together seems to be excessive.
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    My friend (and theoretical physicist) Gordon Freeman, who worked at Black Mesa National Laboratories, mentioned a device similar to this causing a resonance cascade event. I'll email him the photos and see what he thinks.
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    Jrmonroe- any luck with that?
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    Oh NF, Gordon Freeman? Black Mesa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Oh NF, Gordon Freeman? Black Mesa?
    Are you HALF asleep? LIFE getting you down?
    Eh, I'm kinda dumb and did not catch the reference at all. When you guys crack jokes, you need to take us brainless ones into account...
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    Half Life - PC game.
    You play Gordon Freeman, a research physicist at Black Mesa labs and get involved in all sorts of weird stuff with aliens after a " resonance cascade event" happening on some strange piece of sh*t.
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    lmao, i googled up the place that was mentioned and got the game stuff come up but still didn't make the connection that it was a joke. I hate having aspergers....
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    Yeah his Half-Life in blue was the hint but I never played the game.
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    Sorry, I assumed most folks here were that savvy. No, I haven't heard from Gordon yet, I think the feds are intercepting his emails.

    What puzzles me also, is why the pipes are segmented in ways that weaken them. It's one thing to use many pieces of, say, two-inch segments to form a 10-inch pipe — but if you need to change it to a 8- or 12-inch pipe, then simply remove/add another segment. But the pipes are segmented longitudinally, which make them weak, and there's no symmetric segment to add in order to turn. say, a 4-inch pipe into a 5-inch pipe.

    Here's a similar design on a piece of space debris, but I don't know how significant the similarity is, or why the pattern was used, or if it is usually space-related.

    Russian space experts called in to examine 200-kilo 'UFO fragment' which fell from the sky in Siberia | Mail Online
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    Can't see the other side or what's inside. There may be internal tubing but when the little gophers stick their heads out then you hit them with a mallet.
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    It's weird. It almost looks fake, like CGI. I don't like the way the light interacts with it. Are we 100% certain it's real?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    It's weird. It almost looks fake, like CGI. I don't like the way the light interacts with it. Are we 100% certain it's real?
    It's real. Check out the photos linked in SDMB thread.
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    The waveguide idea isn't right -they are rectangular. It seems obvious that something is pumped in and then released -the question is what.
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