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  1. #1 Is There Any Possibility That FIRST 'ALIEN EARTH' WILL BE FOUND IN 2013 
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    I read an Article on a Blog name Sciencerelief.blogspot.in.The Topic of the Article was 'FIRST 'ALIEN EARTH' WILL BE FOUND IN 2013,EXPERT SAYS' but i have some doubt on this Plz Someone Clear it that how possible is this to find 'Alien Planet' or'Another Earth' in coming Year...????
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    Quote Originally Posted by sciencerelief View Post
    I read an Article on a Blog name Sciencerelief.blogspot.in.The Topic of the Article was 'FIRST 'ALIEN EARTH' WILL BE FOUND IN 2013,EXPERT SAYS' but i have some doubt on this Plz Someone Clear it that how possible is this to find 'Alien Planet' or'Another Earth' in coming Year...????
    Ignore the claim. If someone could make the claim that something will happen then by the very nature of the claim it is a certainty. However if something is a certainty then it is founded in knowledge and if so that knowledge had to come from someplace and in that sense it is an occurance. Then, at least to me, to know with certainty something will be found means that it has already been found and I don't helieve that has happened.


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    For goodness sake pmb, stop being so literal.There are now in excess of 1,000 exoplanets identified. It is probable that in 2013 we shall identify the first such planet with Earth like mass (already done) and in the goldilocks zone of it's star. If not 2013 then 2014. Not much of a prediction.
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    You can read the whole article here and then you can decide-
    http://sciencerelief.blogspot.in/201...d-in-2013.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    For goodness sake pmb, ..stop being so literal.
    Nah. Why would you want me to do that? The statement said

    'FIRST 'ALIEN EARTH' WILL BE FOUND IN 2013,EXPERT SAYS'

    it didn't say


    'FIRST 'ALIEN EARTH' MIGHT BE FOUND IN 2013,EXPERT SAYS'

    If I said "Oh, Sure. Since that could happen I agree that it will happen[/i]." then I wouldn't be saying something I believed and I refuse to do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    There are now in excess of 1,000 exoplanets identified. It is probable that in 2013 we shall identify the first such planet with Earth like mass (already done) and in the goldilocks zone of it's star. If not 2013 then 2014. Not much of a prediction.
    Given the two statements

    "John will cut break his right thumb next year."

    or

    "John might cut break his right thumb next year."

    please choose one that is correct. That's how I read the question. And I don't have much confidence in it happening myself. Plus it was a bi vauge. It seemed to speak of an alien "earth" and not a planet the size of earth. I'm not clear on what he meant by 'ALIEN EARTH' anyway. But that is my choice and I stand by it. I'm not saying that it won't happen. He's saying that it will happen with a probability of P(Earth Like) = 1 (certain).

    Besides, being a physicist I've been trained to be literl. My professors beat in into my head - and I agree with them.My professioi
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmb View Post
    Given the two statements

    "John will cut break his right thumb next year."

    or

    "John might cut break his right thumb next year."
    Depends on who's making the prediction. If it is a Loan Shark or the Mob, you can say, "will."
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    sciencerelief, I get the impression that you are simply here to promote your blog. True? In any case, place don't post any more links to it, as they will be removed. Please feel free to actually take part in the threads and to even copy short bits of your blog posts if you like. Thanks in advance.
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    Pmb doyou understand how journalism works? Silly question - you've already answered it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Pmb doyou understand how journalism works? Silly question - you've already answered it.
    I have absolutely no idea what that was supposed to mean.


    The other way the question is phrased is

    Is There Any Possibility That FIRST 'ALIEN EARTH' WILL BE FOUND IN 2013

    The answer to this one is, of course, yes since it asks "Is there any possibility[/u]
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER View Post
    sciencerelief, I get the impression that you are simply here to promote your blog. True? In any case, place don't post any more links to it, as they will be removed. Please feel free to actually take part in the threads and to even copy short bits of your blog posts if you like. Thanks in advance.
    I'm not sure what this means. Strangely enoiugh I've never learned what a blog was. However I have a web site which I created because over a decade ago I realized that many people kept asking the same questions and I hate using Latex. So I created a web site containing many derivations and explnations of physics. I've posted links to it for the purpose of helping people understand physics. Does this 'do not post links' apply to me as well?

    Here are two examples of one of the links I often post
    Inertial Mass
    Invariant Mass

    Should I refrain from posting links like this to my website?
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    pmb, Kalster's post is NOT directed at you.
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    They say aliens have already been found. So you don't belive them ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyIts007 View Post
    They say aliens have already been found. So you don't belive them ?
    Who says aliens have already been found?
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    I'm with Peter, here.

    The thread is titled:
    Is there any possibility that the first alien Earth will be found in 2013?
    The answer to that question is yes, it is a possibility.

    But the question in the Poll is:
    Do you agree that the first alien Earth will be found in 2013?
    The answer to that question is no. I do not agree that the first alien Earth will be found in 2013. It is only a possibility.

    It is highly likely that the first alien Earth will be found in 2013, or soon after, but there is nothing to say it will be found.
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    What they seem to mean by "alien earth" is a planet that seems to be about the right size and distance from its sun. The chances of finding a planet with life is slim and none, and Slim just left town.

    According to the blog
    The first truly Earth-like alien planet is likely to be spotted next year, an epic discovery that would cause humanity to reassess its place in the universe.
    I doubt that it will cause humanity to do any such thing. The impact will probably be negligible. I know it won't matter to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER View Post
    sciencerelief, I get the impression that you are simply here to promote your blog. True? In any case, place don't post any more links to it, as they will be removed. Please feel free to actually take part in the threads and to even copy short bits of your blog posts if you like. Thanks in advance.
    Kalster Don't worry. I m Not Here to Promote any site You must be thinking that the site there is mine and its not your fault anyone can say that its my site as my username and the site domain is same But sorry Its not my site Even i dont Know who is the author of that site.I m one of the Fan of that site only and I like to read it daily.

    SO, SORRY BUT I M AGAIN ADDING THE url ON THE SAME PLACE SO THAT OTHER CAN READ IT EASILY AND THEN GO TO ANY CONCLUSION.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmb View Post
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    Pmb doyou understand how journalism works? Silly question - you've already answered it.
    I have absolutely no idea what that was supposed to mean.
    Journalism is not science. Journalism requires that pronouncements be interesting and exciting. This favours the use of absolutes, when conditionals would be more accurate. That's all that is happening here. You seem blissfully unaware of this. I was trying to help you by pointing that out.
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    Wasn't a Planet found that contained ice and rock?

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