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    Hey Forum,

    This is a rather touchy subject for some if they've lost a loved by the hands of another person, but do you think that the death penalty is an adequate punishment or should it be abolished? I personally have mixed feelings about the subject. I've had friends murdered, gunned downed, and had their entire lives taken by some coward and when I heard about them all I thought was immediate death. After a period of relaxation, I began to wonder about the afterlife (or the absence of it) and thought "If their is a Heaven and Hell, I'm sure what he's [the murderer] done will be brought to justice, but also what about the executioner? Does he get a pass for executing the bad, or is he himself a monster?" Being religious, I can't help but ponder whether there is a God and if he doesn't exist, is the prisoner just killed... that's it? What are your thoughts forum?

    "The state says killing is wrong, so why do they do it? For revenge. Where is the closure? There is none. The death penalty is an act of revenge. Many men sit on death row, some innocent, some not. So what happens when a man is executed and it's later learned he was, in fact, innocent? He can't be brought back." - Martin Link ( Executed February 9, 2011)


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    I'm not opposed to the death penalty in principle at all. I am, however, opposed to it in practice due to the large amount of innocent people that were wrongfully convicted.


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    I have a friend, Gary Gauger, who was wrongfully convicted of murder, and sentenced to die in Illinois.

    suddenly, I found myself anti-death penalty (in practice)
    fortunately, the real murderors were found, and he was released and pardoned---------

    imho
    as long as our court system is an adversarial one, and winning is more important than justice, I see no way out of this barbaric insanity.
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    Hang em high, if a few innocents get caught up along the way, so be it.
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    jeez
    dave
    that's a tad rad dad

    reminds me of the ballad of sam hall
    famed in song and story
    he claimed he was inocent
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    whose last words were rumored to be
    "god damn your eyes"
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    Sculptor, I completely agree with your last sentence. Today, all lawyers care about is a great record and it's sad to see that a persons life is almost like a contest for them. Well the innocent ones at least. I was always curios to ask, if your friend was released, did the state give him something back for almost wrongfully killing him? (I'm not sure what "pardoned " means) I hope he's doing okay, and that episode hasn't scarred him.
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    So, the turd that massacred the kids at Sandy Hook, if he had survived, should not have to face the death penalty then.

    Look at the post number, 666, awesome.
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    I'd think that today we do not have that many "innocent" people being put to death because it takes upwards to 10 years for all appeals to go through the system. That way any new evidence or someone new is found that could alter the decision can be made during that time period. Unfortunatly there are a few people who get wrongly convicted but that's the exception , not the rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Wilson View Post
    So, the turd that massacred the kids at Sandy Hook, if he had survived, should not have to face the death penalty then.
    But he did face the death penalty, didn't he?
    And it didn't cost the taxpayers what the usual death row costs are.

    If everyone was packing heat, we'd have little need for the death penalty and less populated prisons of thieves, rapists and murderers.


    Just sayin'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by imati ozomatli View Post
    Today, all lawyers care about is a great record and it's sad to see that a persons life is almost like a contest for them.
    Attorneys are bound by their profession to serve their clients to the best of their abilities once a contract is agreed upon and signed. You can't really fault them since their profession is also their livelihood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Wilson View Post
    So, the turd that massacred the kids at Sandy Hook, if he had survived, should not have to face the death penalty then.
    But he did face the death penalty, didn't he?
    And it didn't cost the taxpayers what the usual death row costs are.

    If everyone was packing heat, we'd have little need for the death penalty and less populated prisons of thieves, rapists and murderers.


    Just sayin'...
    Yes, well, if he had not shot himself and had been arrested, and gone to trail, no death penalty. The death penalty was repealed in Connecticut in 2012. That will please the anti death penalty lobby, but perhaps not the parents of the murdered children.
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