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  1. #1 Do atheists believe there are aliens? 
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    As an atheist myself I really don't know what to make of some of this grey alien/reptilian and other UFO activity. We have to go on the evidence which is none, but the very real probability that aliens exist is much more likely than say a God, so what do you think? PLus all the other implications of covering up extraterrestrial activity for reasons to not make people panic, or whatever. Surley there is something afoot, I mean there have been all the coverup projects that have been declassified. Project bluebook for instance and I am sure there are others.

    Just wondering what others takes on this are.


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    We have to go on the evidence which is none, but the very real probability that aliens exist is much more likely than say a God, so what do you think?
    If there's no evidence, how can you assign a probability to their existance?


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    To another universe, where the rules are simpler
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    Exactly, I want to believe that all the claims of UFO's and alien experiences are hogwash but some may well not be. I wish there were a way to investigate them I really do because it it a fascinating subject and a way to answer one of the most important questions we have asked "Are we alone in the universe?".
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    We have to go on the evidence which is none, but the very real probability that aliens exist is much more likely than say a God, so what do you think?
    If there's no evidence, how can you assign a probability to their existance?
    Because the physical processes that lead to life and the conditions for it are studied. Then factoring the magnitude of the Universe.

    Personally, I think it's very possible that there's other intelligent life out there, somewhere. I do not believe it has visited us.
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    The problem for me is that God is one thing, aliens are a very real probability and if there is some truth to alien abductions and the like, it is worth keeping on our toes about, and yes I am aware how ridiculous this is sounding.
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    Are we alone in the universe? I doubt it.

    Have extra-terrestrials ever visited Earth? I doubt it.

    I believe extra-terrestrials exist, simply due to the laws of probability. We have evidence of intelligent life around one star in one galaxy, and there are billions of stars in billions of galaxies. If we somehow had evidence that we are the only intelligent life in the whole universe, well, that is the kind of evidence that would shake my atheism!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedFreek View Post
    Are we alone in the universe? I doubt it.

    Have extra-terrestrials ever visited Earth? I doubt it.

    I believe extra-terrestrials exist, simply due to the laws of probability. We have evidence of intelligent life around one star in one galaxy, and there are billions of stars in billions of galaxies. If we somehow had evidence that we are the only intelligent life in the whole universe, well, that is the kind of evidence that would shake my atheism!
    Can you imagine that!? A whole universe to ourselves. Wow all those untamed paradises and discoveries!
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    I certainly believe that there's a possibility of other intelligent lifeforms out there somewhere. I see no reason why we would expect them to be much like us - even if they are like earth-based life forms maybe the dolphin group would have come out on top elsewhere.

    But all that alien abduction malarkey sounds far too much like those old incubus and succubus fantasies back when people were afraid of demons and witches.
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    Catholics believe there are aliens because the Pope's astronomer has been instructed to release a "waver" that if alien beings exist and evidence is found by science in the future, this would not go against the word of god because god created them, too.

    But as an atheist, I think it is highly probable. Need evidence to be sure to a rigorous scientific certainty.
    It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
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    I am a theist
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    I believe that there is much life elsewhere in the universe. I see no reason to assume probability to a creationist "deity" nor to "aliens"(if they ain't left home yet are they still considerd aliens?)

    I think that most, if not(and most likely) all, people who claim to have talked with god, or been abducted by aliens are deranged schitzophrenics.
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    What if, like in the movie Prometheus, aliens actually created us then left us here to see what happens?
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    Yes.
    With bravery and recognition that we are harbingers of our destiny and with a paragon of virtue.
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    The universe is too big for only one intelligent species to exist on a single planet, so yes.
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    If aliens are out there somewhere, I do not believe they have come to planet earth. Most of the ufo stories are hoaxes and lies.
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    It is certainly possible that there is life elsewhere in the universe. Maybe even probable, but we don't have enough information to say for sure.

    Have aliens visited earth? There seems to be no evidence of that.

    What on earth has atheism got to do with it? Are people with no interest in football more or less likely to believe UFO stories?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    What on earth has atheism got to do with it? Are people with no interest in football more or less likely to believe UFO stories?
    Not sure, I wanted to ask the question appealing to atheists as they are more logically reasonable people in general, I would be inviting theists or believers in the supernatural to answer as well and they would likely answer as they usually do. I wanted opinions from intellectually and logically sound people is all.
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    I don't know why atheists would specifically believe in aliens, but I can understand why theists would specifically NOT believe in them.

    However, when you discuss theists and aliens, it sort of begs the question, "Why did God create other stars or galaxies?" Practice? Sh*ts and giggles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantime View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    What on earth has atheism got to do with it? Are people with no interest in football more or less likely to believe UFO stories?
    Not sure, I wanted to ask the question appealing to atheists as they are more logically reasonable people in general, I would be inviting theists or believers in the supernatural to answer as well and they would likely answer as they usually do. I wanted opinions from intellectually and logically sound people is all.
    What makes you think atheists are the most logically reasonable people in general? There could be a good logical reason for having faith in many instances.

    You could have an atheist agnostic, or a theist agnostic.

    What does atheist mean to you?
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    The sweeping generalisations on display are disapointing.
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    Realism based on evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    I can understand why theists would specifically NOT believe in them.
    Some religions specifically say there is life on other planets. I can't see any reason why most religions would have anything against it on principle.

    Why did God create other stars or galaxies?
    I assume, for the same reason he would have done anything. (Because he can?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by question for you View Post
    What makes you think atheists are the most logically reasonable people in general?
    Exactly. I see nothing in my experience of people at large to support such an assumption.

    You could have an atheist agnostic, or a theist agnostic.
    I'm not sure a theist agnostic makes sense ... if you are not sure (agnostic) then, by definition, you don't believe (atheist).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    What makes you think atheists are the most logically reasonable people in general?
    Exactly. I see nothing in my experience of people at large to support such an assumption.
    Nothing at all, I would be inclined toward the other way but it largely depends on wether the irational followers of fashion are being led to think one way or the other.

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    You could have an atheist agnostic, or a theist agnostic.
    I'm not sure a theist agnostic makes sense ... if you are not sure (agnostic) then, by definition, you don't believe (atheist).
    I was using the term theist to mean a beleiver in God, Atheist is a non beleiver. Gnostic being somebody who knows of God and agnostic meaning no knowledge.

    Nobody says agnostic in reference to somebody completely ignorant of God... It's used to describe somebody who doesn't claim to know.
    So I reckoned you could believe in God, especially when it suits you... without claiming to know for a fact. Therfore be an agnostic theist. A Gnostic theist might have a knowledge of God, but they may also beleive to an extent in further attributes of 'God', which they do not know.
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    If I were to claim that I had just spoken with god, and she said...........................
    or
    I were to claim that aliens just landed in my back yard, and took me for a trip around the cosmos in their tardis machine

    Which of those 2 would seem to make me more crazy in your view?

    godless athiest
    ignorant agnostics
    simple really
    why make it more complicated?
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    This will be a great question to ask again if a mars rover were ever to find life on mars. Dead or alive.

    So far, todays Rover update has been disappointing going by todays report taken from their facebook site:

    NASA’s Curiosity Mars Rover:


    Everybody, chill. After careful analysis, there are NO Martian
    organics in recent samples. Update Dec. 3:
    http://go.nasa.gov/114tJs9

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    This will be a great question to ask again if a mars rover were ever to find life on mars. Dead or alive.

    So far, todays Rover update has been disappointing going by todays report taken from their facebook site:

    NASA’s Curiosity Mars Rover (http://www.facebook.com/#!/MarsCuriosity):
    Everybody, chill. After careful analysis, there are NO Martian
    organics in recent samples.

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