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    Sheeple(Wiki): (a portmanteau of "sheep" and "people") is a term of disparagement in which people are likened to sheep, a herd animal.

    If you click on this link then are you doing so because you are part of a large contingent of internet forum followers or because you represent the minority that dares to voice your opinions & viewpoints? It seems as if many members here belong to the silent majority. Do they just read this stuff for the sake of reading or just want to belong to the forum for whatever reason?

    Are we all sheep at some time or another? or is there a portion of humanity resistant to following? I'm thinking that scientists may belong to the class of non followers as they seek to discover the truth and dispel myths but when amongst their peers do they follow established protocol unwittingly or do they knowingly pretend to care?

    Conventions are great places to see flocks of humans. If you were invited to attend a science convention (pick a category) then would you go to actually learn something or just to keep up appearances? If by feigning interest in the topic at hand but attending because you think it may affect your career if you don't then are you temporarily at least, one of the sheep?

    Epiphany..... It just dawned on me that everyone there including myself are sheep, being herded into one locale.

    Black Friday shoppers....UGH!!


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    I am a sheep in wolf's clothing.


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    Don't you mean sheeple in wolfle's clothing?
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    Sheep: A highly socialble non violent placid animal. Sheep tend to know that strength is in numbers and so stick together. They have a natural predator or two, predominantly wolves, whome they fear and connot survive against alone.

    Jesus and his comrades would identify themselves as fishes. Highly sociable animals that stick together as a defense against predators. At some point the christian symbolic animal became sheep, which have similar behavioural qualities.

    Jesus became known as the shepard of christians... he protects them from the wolves... though does he lead them to the slaughter himself? That's what shepards do...

    The wolves are the enemies of sheep... they too are highly socialble animals that work together to sustain themselves. They have none of the non violent placid qualities of the gracefull sheep. They have only one aim, to feed and to prosper.

    Sheep are contented with what they have, wolves are greedy and needy. They work together not out of love, but out of necesity... they fight each other and growl at each other and have primitive hierachies within their social packs. Sheep just get along humbly.

    Then you have wolves in sheeps clothing... Wolves pretending to be sheep in order to dupe the sheep into seperating from the pack and the sheperd so that they can be slaughtered and eaten alive.

    Who are these people who really are interested in their own personal prosperity and position within their society, whilst always acting as if they are humble and sociable?

    Who are these ruthless people who will do anything for there own survival, and yet place sheep skin on the person as a disguise?

    I'm not telling you... work it out for yourself.

    People are capable of thinking of ourselves as, and acting like, any lower animal. Yet when we do we limit our own capabilities.
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    Give me someone worth following, and I'll fall into step behind them(him, her), or one step back and to the left of him/her(the colonel(s) I served under in the army come(s) to mind.

    Absent that, I'm gonna do whatever I damnedwell please.
    (old school-"Lead, follow, or get out of the way!")

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    Bah bahblack sheep... have you any wool?

    'yes sir, yes sir, three bags full. One for the Master, one for the Dame, one for the little boy who lives down the lane'


    Even as an infant I remember thinking 'As if the little boy down the lane is going to get a whole bag of wool! It'll go to the master in reality And why does that little boy live down the lane on his own?'

    That would make an interesting thread.... 'The Autopsy of common nursery rhymes'. Now that would provide some fascinating insights onto our percieved nature im sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by question for you View Post
    Sheep: A highly socialble non violent placid animal. Sheep tend to know that strength is in numbers and so stick together. They have a natural predator or two, predominantly wolves, whome they fear and connot survive against alone.

    Jesus and his comrades would identify themselves as fishes. Highly sociable animals that stick together as a defense against predators. At some point the christian symbolic animal became sheep, which have similar behavioural qualities.

    Jesus became known as the shepard of christians... he protects them from the wolves... though does he lead them to the slaughter himself? That's what shepards do...

    The wolves are the enemies of sheep... they too are highly socialble animals that work together to sustain themselves. They have none of the non violent placid qualities of the gracefull sheep. They have only one aim, to feed and to prosper.

    Sheep are contented with what they have, wolves are greedy and needy. They work together not out of love, but out of necesity... they fight each other and growl at each other and have primitive hierachies within their social packs. Sheep just get along humbly.

    Then you have wolves in sheeps clothing... Wolves pretending to be sheep in order to dupe the sheep into seperating from the pack and the sheperd so that they can be slaughtered and eaten alive.

    Who are these people who really are interested in their own personal prosperity and position within their society, whilst always acting as if they are humble and sociable?

    Who are these ruthless people who will do anything for there own survival, and yet place sheep skin on the person as a disguise?

    I'm not telling you... work it out for yourself.

    People are capable of thinking of ourselves as, and acting like, any lower animal. Yet when we do we limit our own capabilities.
    Sheep are loyal. They respond to the shepherd's voice. You can mix several flocks of sheep (a common practice in Jesus' day) when bedding down for the night, and the sheep will separate into their separate flocks, in the morning, when each individual shepherd calls out to his flock.
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    Deleted due to duplication.
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    My own observation is that the bigger the group of people, the stupider - no people more mindless than the mob. It can be led by simplistic slogans to perpetrate horrific violence; accusation without any supporting evidence being more than sufficient to enact a death penalty upon people who merely look a bit like the object of their ire. Simply to speak and dress the 'wrong' way can get you killed by a mob that, as individuals would probably treat you civilly.

    Quite unlike a mob of sheep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Fabos View Post
    My own observation is that the bigger the group of people, the stupider - no people more mindless than the mob. It can be led by simplistic slogans to perpetrate horrific violence; accusation without any supporting evidence being more than sufficient to enact a death penalty upon people who merely look a bit like the object of their ire. Simply to speak and dress the 'wrong' way can get you killed by a mob that, as individuals would probably treat you civilly.
    Irresponsible is a better word I think. The more people doing something... the less responsible each individual participant feels for the deed.
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    Sheeple is just a term that crazy conspiracy theorists use to make themselves feel better. They have "special knowledge" that no one else has, which makes them feel superior to everyone else...even though their living in their mom's basement.
    Fixin' shit that ain't broke.
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    The word sheeple is quit valid and amusing.

    Some people just do act like sheep, associate themselves with sheep, liken themselves to sheep.

    Christian may or may not be a conspiracy... but the congregation is known as the flock, not the herd.

    But the term sheeple is wider than that and often referes more to people who follow the government or the media unquestionably, rather than Christians. Thats the impression I get.

    Many people out there are trying to lead others this way or that way... those that follow are sheeple. It's nothing to do with conspiracy theorists. It's to do with people following other people as if they are leaders.

    Do you suffer from fear and inability to stand alone? if so...

    If you think there are never any conspiracies then you are crazy.

    Being a sheeple isnt about being too blind to see a conspiracy... it's just about whether you think for yourself or you follow your friends and leaders/sherpards regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by question for you View Post
    If you think there are never any conspiracies then you are crazy.
    Of course there are conspiracies. That is not what Conspiracy Theories are about. And the nature of real-world conspiracies is one of the strongest reasons why Conspiracy Theories cannot be taken seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    If you think there are never any conspiracies then you are crazy.
    Of course there are conspiracies.
    Ok, good.

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    That is not what Conspiracy Theories are about.
    Huh? come again...

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    And the nature of real-world conspiracies is one of the strongest reasons why Conspiracy Theories cannot be taken seriously.
    Now my little mind is completely lost.

    You missed a few key words that qualify or justify and explain, what you mean to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by question for you View Post
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    That is not what Conspiracy Theories are about.
    Huh? come again...
    OK. Words or phrases can, in certain contexts, haver specialised meanings that differ from normal usage. For example, we could talk about the countries of Europe as being united states, but that is not the same thing as the United States.

    Similarly, products are designed by intelligent people (usually) but this is not the same as Intelligent Design, the religious dogma.

    So, yes, there are conspiracies. We know about them because typically people go to jail.

    That is not the same as Conspiracy Theories such as "we never went to the moon" or "Pearl Harbor was arranged by the US government" and so on.

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    And the nature of real-world conspiracies is one of the strongest reasons why Conspiracy Theories cannot be taken seriously.
    Now my little mind is completely lost.

    You missed a few key words that qualify or justify and explain, what you mean to say.
    So, some of the defining characteristics of real conspiracies are that they involve a small number of people and don't last long. Even if the conspirators face prison or death, they cannot keep it secret.

    Conspiracy Theories, on the other hand, have zero evidence for them and mountains of evidence proving them to be implausible or impossible. That doesn't stop a certain type of person believing in them with absolute certainty.

    For example, a Conspiracy Theory such as the "Apollo Hoax" idea would require hundreds of thousands of people in all countries of the world, including children and enemies of the US, to keep the secret and never reveal any hint about it for decades I think we can safely say it is bogus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by question for you View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    That is not what Conspiracy Theories are about.
    Huh? come again...
    OK. Words or phrases can, in certain contexts, haver specialised meanings that differ from normal usage. For example, we could talk about the countries of Europe as being united states, but that is not the same thing as the United States.

    Similarly, products are designed by intelligent people (usually) but this is not the same as Intelligent Design, the religious dogma.

    So, yes, there are conspiracies. We know about them because typically people go to jail.

    That is not the same as Conspiracy Theories such as "we never went to the moon" or "Pearl Harbor was arranged by the US government" and so on.

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    And the nature of real-world conspiracies is one of the strongest reasons why Conspiracy Theories cannot be taken seriously.
    Now my little mind is completely lost.

    You missed a few key words that qualify or justify and explain, what you mean to say.
    So, some of the defining characteristics of real conspiracies are that they involve a small number of people and don't last long. Even if the conspirators face prison or death, they cannot keep it secret.

    Conspiracy Theories, on the other hand, have zero evidence for them and mountains of evidence proving them to be implausible or impossible. That doesn't stop a certain type of person believing in them with absolute certainty.

    For example, a Conspiracy Theory such as the "Apollo Hoax" idea would require hundreds of thousands of people in all countries of the world, including children and enemies of the US, to keep the secret and never reveal any hint about it for decades I think we can safely say it is bogus.
    Thank you for your explaination. I'm still a little mythed but not so much.

    I think your comments were far too generalistic.

    I agree with all you say above... but things are never that black and white.

    I don't want to go into details about any one conspiracy theory of conspiracy that has been found out... but it's possible for a conspiracy to go undetected forever, easily.

    Saying 'conspiracy theories never havve any evidence' is ill thought out and show a disposition to instantly group things together in the trash can of your mind. Science is all about being thourough and robust and objective and impartial... this kind of 'mental association' is counter productive when it comes to analysing and understanding things.

    That kind of generalisation is not very intelligent and is not worthy to come from your mind my good man.

    If I didn't know better I would be inclined to agree with other posters who group people into types and catergories becuase they beleive that 'institutional brain washing' churns out a load of idiots who cannot think critically on certain subjects such as conspiracies.

    I will not do that... but the way you speak at times really does make me wonder, and with all due respect strange, I ask you to give a lot of consideration to whether all the nonsensical conspiracy theories might be causing you to instantly place more reasonable theories in the same mental trash can...I don't want an answer, I only suggest you consider it purely for your own development. What you conclude after consideration is your bussiness.

    there is evidence here that you are associating many varied things as one, in your language at least, if not in your thinking.

    This kind of generalisation is on par with sexism and racism... i'm not accusing you of being either ofcourse.

    We all become blinkered from time to time by one thing or another... theres no shame in it. I'm just confronting you and asking you to consider if you are allowing yourself to be blinkered.

    I can appreciate years of speaking to people with crazy notions can do this for a person... but if we'r not careful we let these associations affect our ability to understand the truth, or reality of a situation.

    No disrespect intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by question for you View Post
    but things are never that black and white.
    Certainly. I was writing a short post for a web forum, not an academic paper.

    I highly recommend "Voodoo Histories" by David Aaronovitch. The amazing thing is the commonality of delusion and lack of evidence among Conspiracy Theorists across centuries and cultures and subjects. The "logic" and arguments used by the "Shakespeare didn't write his plays" crowd is almost identical to the "Apollo Hoax" nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    but things are never that black and white.
    Certainly. I was writing a short post for a web forum, not an academic paper.

    I highly recommend "Voodoo Histories" by David Aaronovitch. The amazing thing is the commonality of delusion and lack of evidence among Conspiracy Theorists across centuries and cultures and subjects. The "logic" and arguments used by the "Shakespeare didn't write his plays" crowd is almost identical to the "Apollo Hoax" nuts.
    I will try to have a good look at that.

    Delusion is an interesting word... Being delusional means you are under an illusion right?


    Let me tell you, if I have a secret society and I ran the world using underhand methods, whether for the greater good or not, I would create many illusions for people to beleive in so that they didn't uncover the truth of what I was upto.

    Therefor they would be found to be delusion in their beleif of an illusion I created...

    When one person comes up with one true theory on the conspiracy that I'm involved in... then nobody would take them seriously, they would be considered delusional like all the rest. That would be a delusional consideration, and so we witness the birth of a new illusion that would make all people who consider the conspiracy theory a delusion... delusional.
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    People are sheep in the term they want to be socially active and involved with other sheep. It is a very common behaviour and is the hallmark of human survival, to stick together as a society. The ones who aren't sheep and don't conform are either anti-conformists or Shepherds (leaders).

    However there is a difference between being part of a society and turning your eye to the suffering of others, starvation, hurt, pain, famine etc of your fellow human. This is what angers me and where I think the term 'sheeple' comes from. People aren't conglomeratley coming together ignorance people just don't like seeing the pain of others and suffering because as empathic creatures they see it too and become uncomfortable and then turn away. People wanting to shop shop shop is a consequence of human conditioning and need for approval and satisfying insecurities which the media and corporations provide so eloquently. It isn't a conspiracy, its business. And they are VERY good at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantime View Post
    It isn't a conspiracy, its business. And they are VERY good at it.
    That's a falacy.

    Whats the difference? it's bussiness and conspiracy hand in hand if what you say is true (and it is true).
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    Question for You - Yes, there's almost certainly an element of diminished responsibility that comes from being part of a group. Being part of a group can also diminish the level of individual fear that would tend to make someone alone think twice. I do wonder if the increasing capacity of police to identify and successfully prosecute those involved in riots after the fact could change the dynamics of mobs in the streets. But I think people in a mob will continue to be less able to think and choose as individuals. Whether it's through a peer pressure thing or the amplification of raw emotion or feeling less responsible for consequences or less afraid to act out urges, the mob is dangerous thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by question for you View Post
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    It isn't a conspiracy, its business. And they are VERY good at it.
    That's a falacy.

    Whats the difference? it's bussiness and conspiracy hand in hand if what you say is true (and it is true).
    Well if you harm someone by planning with others to harm them for the sake of your own benefit that is conspiratol
    If you harm others indirectly as a result of busniess practices to make profit but don't sit there thinking how to harm others its more like business.

    I doubt all the oil companies, big pharma and corporations sat down one day and said "Lets fuck them up, for a laugh". No, they set out business plans to make the most business, advertise, create insecurities which will drive human desire and demand, and then become the supply. It is a very simple process. Unmanaged of course it can escalte until a lot of people are suffering. They don't care as long as they make money, that is their purpose after all. harming others isn't their intent, only making money. If they harm others in the process its the causality of the business, not the intent. That is the difference between conspiracies and businesses.

    Although looking at American networks and their devout religious propoganda it does make me suspicious that there is a conspiracy to stop atheists and people thinking for themselves. But then again that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    Sheeple(Wiki): (a portmanteau of "sheep" and "people") is a term of disparagement in which people are likened to sheep, a herd animal.

    If you click on this link then are you doing so because you are part of a large contingent of internet forum followers or because you represent the minority that dares to voice your opinions & viewpoints? It seems as if many members here belong to the silent majority. Do they just read this stuff for the sake of reading or just want to belong to the forum for whatever reason?

    Are we all sheep at some time or another? or is there a portion of humanity resistant to following? I'm thinking that scientists may belong to the class of non followers as they seek to discover the truth and dispel myths but when amongst their peers do they follow established protocol unwittingly or do they knowingly pretend to care?

    Conventions are great places to see flocks of humans. If you were invited to attend a science convention (pick a category) then would you go to actually learn something or just to keep up appearances? If by feigning interest in the topic at hand but attending because you think it may affect your career if you don't then are you temporarily at least, one of the sheep?

    Epiphany..... It just dawned on me that everyone there including myself are sheep, being herded into one locale.

    Black Friday shoppers....UGH!!
    Humans are a kind of group or pack animal such as some carnivores, but also in other ways more akin to herd and flock behaviors of herbivores and many birds. Most prefer to go along with mainstream behaviors, styles, and thought, because there are often more advantages to fitting in than being a loner, or a self imposed outcast. To look, behave, or think differently invites criticisms by the many. To be an eccentric in one or more ways makes it often difficult to: obtain and keep a job, find and keep a mate, contribute to a society as a whole, live within a society, vote and accept laws of others, be productive concerning the society, be "successful," raise "successful" productive children, etc. There are obviously more possible advantages to being part of the pack, than being a loner. Many who are loners do so because of psychological problems such as paranoia.

    Sheep often change leaders and often there is no leader of the herd, just a type of flock behavior related to influences of the whole. Forum behaviors are similar in that there are many agreeing with mainstream theory and behavior, and few arguing to the contrary. Societies, as to its whole, often have made bad collective decisions such as in "genetic cleansing' and have had more disproved theories over its history than relatively indisputable theories. Each generation has thought that their behavior, gods, and theories were correct, and history has so far shown that all such beliefs and theories have been generally wrong.

    The point is that whether one thinks once again that this generation is probably "the first correct generation," or considers that it is probably just another part of the never ending sequence of wrong beliefs, whereby only a few strongly supported concepts/ theories in our time may last countless millennia.

    I, for one, think we are in no way part of a special time and that most of today's ideas, especially theories, will be replaced in not too long. So I prefer not to follow the crowd concerning religious beliefs and many science theories. I aspire to be more like a pack leader than an eccentric, but most often the challenges require too much effort so I often mollify my behavior to "survive" attack by blending in more like a "sheeple," rather than revealing myself as being the obvious maverick which I am , hence inviting attack by wolves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forrest noble
    Sheep often change leaders and often there is no leader of the herd, just a type of flock behavior related to influences of the whole. Forum behaviors are similar in that there are many agreeing with mainstream theory and behavior, and few arguing to the contrary.
    I have found this to be true, also. Sad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantime View Post
    No, they set out business plans to make the most business, advertise, create insecurities which will drive human desire and demand, and then become the supply. It is a very simple process. Unmanaged of course it can escalte until a lot of people are suffering. They don't care as long as they make money, that is their purpose after all. harming others isn't their intent, only making money.
    I'v highlighted the point at which it goes beyond acceptable self serving bussiness practice into the dark world of sinister conspiracy... and also the point at which the philosophy is all wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forrest noble View Post
    I aspire to be more like a pack leader than an eccentric, but most often the challenges require too much effort so I often mollify my behavior to "survive" attack by blending in more like a "sheeple," rather than revealing myself as being the obvious maverick which I am , hence inviting attack by wolves.
    Shhh... stop standing over their by that little old lady in a red hood and come over hear where your safe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by question for you View Post
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    I aspire to be more like a pack leader than an eccentric, but most often the challenges require too much effort so I often mollify my behavior to "survive" attack by blending in more like a "sheeple," rather than revealing myself as being the obvious maverick which I am , hence inviting attack by wolves.
    Shhh... stop standing over their by that little old lady in a red hood and come over hear where your safe!
    I didn't think the wolf ate little Red Riding Hood, just her grandmother. So why was the wolf wearing Riding Hood's coat? Hopefully there's no funny business going on between the wolf and Riding Hood since she is under age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forrest noble View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by forrest noble View Post
    I aspire to be more like a pack leader than an eccentric, but most often the challenges require too much effort so I often mollify my behavior to "survive" attack by blending in more like a "sheeple," rather than revealing myself as being the obvious maverick which I am , hence inviting attack by wolves.
    Shhh... stop standing over their by that little old lady in a red hood and come over hear where your safe!
    I didn't think the wolf ate little Red Riding Hood, just her grandmother. So why was the wolf wearing Riding Hood's coat? Hopefully there's no funny business going on between the wolf and Riding Hood since she is under age.
    Haa. It's been a whille since I had the book read to me. I imagined the wolfe lying in the old Granma's bed (after he ate her), wearing a redhood... For some reason I have that image in my head.

    I seem to have had some kind of fruedian memory slip.

    I can asure you the wolf wearing little red ridinghoods clothes didn't form part of my logic... perhaps he thought that if he wears a red hood too then she'll be lured over? Birds of a feather flock together was his idea.

    Why on earth did I mention a wolf with a red hood anyway? your a sheep not little red ridinghood! Must have been another memory slip. My brain is retreiving the wrong memories for me.
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    I aspire to be more like a pack leader than an eccentric, but most often the challenges require too much effort so I often mollify my behavior to "survive" attack by blending in more like a "sheeple," rather than revealing myself as being the obvious maverick which I am , hence inviting attack by wolves.
    Shhh... stop standing over their by that little old lady in a red hood and come over hear where your safe!
    I didn't think the wolf ate little Red Riding Hood, just her grandmother. So why was the wolf wearing Riding Hood's coat? Hopefully there's no funny business going on between the wolf and Riding Hood since she is under age.
    Haa. It's been a whille since I had the book read to me. I imagined the wolfe lying in the old Granma's bed (after he ate her), wearing a redhood... For some reason I have that image in my head.

    I seem to have had some kind of fruedian memory slip.

    I can asure you the wolf wearing little red ridinghoods clothes didn't form part of my logic... perhaps he thought that if he wears a red hood too then she'll be lured over? Birds of a feather flock together was his idea.

    Why on earth did I mention a wolf with a red hood anyway? your a sheep not little red ridinghood! Must have been another memory slip. My brain is retrieving the wrong memories for me.
    Yeah, I know what you mean. Those salacious Freudian slips can reveal one's non-sheeple wolf-like dreams and asperations
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    Yeah, I know what you mean. Those salacious Freudian slips can reveal one's non-sheeple wolf-like dreams and asperations
    I hate it when that happens! I hope I didn't reveal too much this time, about my penchant for dressing up and preying on innocent sacrificees.
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    D'oh!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by forrest noble View Post
    ... an eccentric, but most often the challenges require too much effort so I often mollify my behavior to "survive" attack by blending in more like a "sheeple," rather than revealing myself as being the obvious maverick which I am , hence inviting attack by wolves.
    gee, that is sad dad

    .......
    as re little red riding hood(sam the sham)---when she said "eat me" did she know that i was a cannibal?
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    ... an eccentric, but most often the challenges require too much effort so I often mollify my behavior to "survive" attack by blending in more like a "sheeple," rather than revealing myself as being the obvious maverick which I am , hence inviting attack by wolves.
    gee, that is sad dad
    Yup, very sad. Even worse is that in forums there are rules against expressing some of my normal inclinations.

    .......
    as re little red riding hood (sam the sham)---when she said "eat me" did she know that i was a cannibal?
    No, not a cannibal, I expect she was just hoped and expecting that you had an animalistic-like nature, sheeple, wolf-like, or otherwise.
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    ... in forums there are rules against expressing some of my normal inclinations. ...
    phraseology matters
    You may want to say "jesusfuckingchrist whatinhell is wrong with you yougoddamnedidiot"
    but you could also say "Very interesting, I've met people with simular outlooks to yours, but most of them were comfortably housed in state run institutions."
    or, one I've used for/on/with/to(?) my wife "If you intended to be nice(polite, constructive, helpful, etc...) with that remark, I gotta tell you that you are way off the mark."

    question for you likes this.
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    sculptor,

    phraseology matters. You may want to say............................................... .
    Here's an actual word for word example:

    He said:
    forrest, you are a miraculous combination of ignorance and arrogance, so you are unteachable. Each post of yours demonstrates sloppy thinking, arrogant ignorance, and is an unintended source of hilarity leavened with sadness.
    Whereby I said (my sheeple reply was):

    You've been posting on forums for a while now, right? One of the primary rules of this and all forums is to address the issue and not insult others. .........

    An Ad hominems is an easy definition/concept to understand if you try. In all forums insulting others is one of the primary rule breakers. If you want anyone to ever read any of your postings and comment concerning their possible value, and if you would like to remain on this forum or be a part of any forum discussions, you have to learn the rules of the forum ..........
    Whereby my wolf-like reply may have been more like:

    Talk about ignorant. Your last 2 moronic postings are a good example of your stupid BS comments and lack of understanding even the simplest concepts ................................ you XXXXXXX idiotic loser, etc etc.
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    what was this about?

    oh yeh, sheeple

    when the "global warming/ global climate change ... fear mongers raised the rabble and proclaimed a new crusade
    I saw what I perceived to be vast floocks of mindless sheeple parroting fears upon fears as though they actually knew what would happen if we warmed 2-3-4-5-6 degrees without having a clue about the condition of the planet during previous like conditions.
    .............
    If the sheperd is insane, is the flock in trouble?
    (but that's just me)
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    Yeah, I know what you mean. Those salacious Freudian slips can reveal one's non-sheeple wolf-like dreams and asperations
    I hate it when that happens! I hope I didn't reveal too much this time, about my penchant for dressing up and preying on innocent sacrificees.
    I'm sure it would be OK if one was part of some kind of cult where innocence was not involved because of early education concerning animal behaviors
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    They are the worst people on this planet. They are Mindless. With a Leader or Cause, They take the form of Militants, Verbally or Physically. Like your original word" Sheeple" all They do is Follow and lack Independent Thinking.
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    This can be truth because man is always a social animal.
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    The only people I can imagine to be totally resistant to following would be serial killers. We, so called sane people, all follow sometimes. Some just follow more than others.
    Speaking badly about people after they are gone and jumping on the bash the band wagon must do very well for a low self-esteem.
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