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November 8th, 2012, 03:51 AM
As promised on an earlier Thread I have broadcast my seed upon almost natural garden soil. The ground is hot enough now. All types of vegetable seed mixed up together and thrown to the wind. What will survive?.
' What will prosper?"
Water only from now on. westwind.
Mixed plantings do quite well in raised beds so it will be interesting to see how your broadcast seeding fares. Did you rake them in at all? Another technique that I have seen used is to mix the seeds into a bit of soil and them broadcast the mixture. This ensures that the seeds are likely to have a bit of cover to preserve them from hungry birds and small rodents. Good luck with your venture and hopefully you will keep us appraised of their progress. You've inspired me to start some seeds under my indoor grow light set-up which is presently quite bare with only a few flowering plants getting ready to start their rest season, an African Violet, a Miniature Rose and a couple of Centennial Geraniums. I may start some Lobelia and try a few greens but hubby needs the house quite warm so this may not be to their preference.
I'm impressed. Looks like river washed pebbles for the access pathways? Expensive here in Victoria. Very old Landscape. Pebbly Brooks and streams well buried under layers of Volcanic Flows, ( Basalt flows, thirty to forty metres thick. ). Our fast flowing pebbly streams are certainly there, but at varying depths, and, as I say, under the Lava Flows. Well under. Some gold mixed in there too. Your air is clearer and cleaner, I can see it. And it looks like a digger machine next door, or part of playground equipment.
And no nibble holes in the Kale etc. westwind.
Nice garden. westward You make me wish I'd planted a fall garden here.
Maaaannn....I thought this thread was going to be about WW knocking up some chick he brought home from the bar.
Nice garden there Sche..I'm with Lynx, I wish I planted one too....but it's a little late. I guess I'll just wait for Spring.
Yes, it is a nice garden but the copyright on the photo is not mine. I do have washed gravel for my attached greenhouse floor and I grow in raised beds and frequently mixed veggies but I grabbed this picture off the internet because I thought it was a beauty too.
If there is any problem with using the photo on this thread in such manner, I will understand if the moderators make it vanish.
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Let us track down the Gardener here. He obviously lives in the Yukon. It very well could be you scheherazade. I realised it was a copyright photo off the Internet as would most members, except I was taken in by the Paths and came back to relating them to the Yukon. It dosen;t take much to confuse me as sometimes I am a 24/7 Man sleeping in odd situations for odd moments in time.
Now, one thing I didn't mention in my Poste, that sunshine thats playing on the Garden Beds, What Latitude are we looking at? and I wonder how warm it is?
And remember, you and all the other Members of The Science Forum would not have been informed about the Geology of Southern Central Victoria without you Posting that Gravel Based Photo. westwind.
westwind.... If only I could assimilate all the knowledge you put into your posts!! Are you a librarian?
Coming from you DaBob I take that as a compliment. Just being old DaBob and not being caught up totally in some time consuming activity. Time to think. But my stuff is basically General Knowledge assembled with some unspellable words dressed up as a new Goose.
( HE HE HE ). How you doing DaBob? As I mentioned to you before being able to pick up your Tea at your favourite Street Stall, seeing it hot cooked before your eyes, your loyal footpath Chef doing special cuts for you, all this gets my taste buds going.
How do you get on with poyoko? He likes fun and is handy with ideas, when he has one.
DaBob are you staying in China for the long term?
Do the Chinese have a Mint where they produce coinage? Silver coins etc. If so, I may send for one. Be kind to those who are kind to you. westwind.
OK. An update on my seed sowing. ITS BEEN FOUR DAYS AND NOTHING HAS COME UP. Some small weeds maybe. Everything will be allowed to stay. The birds have been having a scratch around.
I would poste the occassional picture of proceedings in the vegetable bed if I knew how to take theem from the Windows live picture Gallery, or westwinds photos, or direct from my sd memory card from my camera.
But I don't know how to do this when I am in The Science Forum window. westwind.
Four days is pushing it for most seeds in direct planting situations, westwind, although with indoor plantings in a controlled temperature and timed lighting setting I have had Arugula up in less than three days. A lot depends on whether the seed needs light or darkness to germinate and how much soil cover it has to break. In traditional row planting, the biggest mistake of new gardeners is to plant the seed too deep.
I still chuckle to think about my first planting of rhubarb root that I had proudly purchased for the homestead. The package clearly said to plant each root 18 inches deep, so with spade and tape measure to hand, I dug my two holes precisely and planted the roots, backfilling the plantings and watering.
Then I waited a week. Two weeks. Three weeks. All summer....
They say it is near impossible to kill rhubarb but it had not occurred to me that there could be a misprint on the instructions. Everything is checked and double checked before it goes to print is it not?
Hence, in my trust and inexperience, I had for all intents and purposes given the rhubarb a 'christian burial'. It never did show up. R.I.P.
Regarding pictures, my method is to upload pictures that I want to post to my Picassa Web album, a feature of Google. That puts them onto a virtual album which can be private or public. You select who can see them with the edit feature once they are uploaded to Picassa.
To share on this forum, I open the picture on Picassa, right click and select 'Copy Image Location.'
To post this on the forum, the insert button here does not seem to work so to get around this you type as follows:
[img]click and paste here[/img] and hit enter. Then hit preview and you should be able to view your image prior to posting. There may be an easier way that another can share with you.
I should get out some radish seeds and try container growing some under artificial light. Radish will usually come up in about 5 days in my experience.
I'm not a radish man. I mean in the growing of radish. I have seed in now, scattered, should some come up I'll have a small problem in as much as I have no teeth. My gums are hard now, no teeth for four years, ( HE HE HE ), could bite your finger off. But Radish? How will I go?
Thanks for the insertion tips, I'll have a go during the Daytime. ( we have an eclipse in Australia around 16/17 hours away. Best viewing will be in far North Queensland, Cairnes. Have't been listening closley, but I think the Moon is going to Eclipse the Sun. westwind.
The radish variety I grow is known as 'Raxe' a German hybrid that tolerates most conditions without bolting and gets very large without becoming woody when grown outdoors in good soil and well spaced and watered. I have grown them to the size of extra large hen's eggs and then thinly sliced them and served with homemade rhubarb wine to the ladies, the mild spice of the radish nicely complimenting the tangy/sweet of the chilled rhubarb wine.
Reminds me that I should start the year's rhubarb wine and get my space back in the freezer which is presently occupied by many pounds of rhubarb chopped into 1" lengths in advance of such anticipated need. The freezing is the easiest way to get the fruit to 'let down' it's juice. Just place in the sterilized primary fermentation vessel and add sugar as the first step in the process.
To make your gardining experience something to remember (go as big as you can).
10 of the World's Largest Vegetables and Fruits
Doing okay over here. Unfortunately I have returned to the North American continent. I'm going through a rough patch so I only come around here now to peak at things now and again. There's pretty much nothing here (Pacific North West) but loads of psychologically screwed up lonely people who make themselves feel good by pretending to be smart. My living situation keeps me mostly away from them, but also distant from my duties (work, studies, etc.). Nothing interesting here, yet. Just going with the wind and recording my experiences before they completely fade into the dream file.Originally Posted by westwind
I don't know much about pyoko, except that I imagine him looking something like a rubber ducky.
As for the coins, they're not too exciting... The mint is tasty though. One of my favourite dishes was a mint spiced fish. I think it's "illegal" to take/send Chinese currency out of the mainland, but then again, I did bring home my own collection. It's all nothing but a bunch of Mao faces. I don't get it really. All the western scholars know the truth about Mao, and Chinese scholars, officials and citizens know a lot, so I don't really understand why he's still on the notes. Unless their want to remember the number who died due to his policies and arrogance. Now I'm off on a rant I'm not schooled enough in to support so I'll stop.
Calmness
I'd love to have you as my jolly giant arKane. Theres some bastards I have to deal with, wéd soon sort them out. You are a horrible looking bugger, fair dinkum.
I'm having enough trouble growing old arKane. Growing Big? I wan't a soil analysis. Fertile soil. I f I could start again I'd bring in all the Fertile soil I could lay my hands on, Get my tractor and my compost and my watercatchment, and then watch me go. No women though, they complicate things. Fancy trying to grow big things when woman are around. westwind.
Yes.
Fancy that indeed!
You might (not) want to read this then...
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...dx3bHA&cad=rja
Last edited by scheherazade; November 14th, 2012 at 09:09 AM.
Sorry scheherazade, you are a real gardener, and understand growing conditions. Patience, quietness, and an affinity with Nature are prerequisits to making friends with your turnips.
I've sent an email to The Science Forum at their email address, asking them to create a Picture Sub Forum for blokes like me who can manage to email pictures but only to email addressees at this time. I have suggested to the Admin, that though I know extra work is involved in setting something like this up. they would then have veto powers before allowing pictures to appear.
I also picked up a wonderful phase from another poster ie; "with such an abundance of variables". westwind.
Had trouble with your Poste Site scheherazade. Women and Gardening. Googles up alright but then changes window quickly to other items UK wise.
I really postd back because this will get me to 900 and I couldn't think of a better place to be to share this moment in time half way round the world both watching closely the emergence of Nature and listening beyond the distractions to a time and place where the only noise is the buzzing of happy bees and owls shifting their feet slightly on their day perch. westwind.
Hmmm.....
I investigated the matter and it appears that this site allows a few free visits and then would like you to buy a subscription. I went back to the search page and pulled a link from there, which seems to be working now. Check it out again perhaps as it is a read that might be to your liking.
As for growing big veggies, save for competition purposes most women are interested in qualities such as flavor, texture, resistance and hardiness over size.
There, your just viewed Site has confirmed my worst fears. Women are on the acendency, they not only hold the reins in most things, but now they are infilterating the World of Produce. Not content with producing babies from under cabbages grown by men, they now want to grow the bloody cabbages.
I love it. Down on the Allotments in their Plastic igloos/. Wish I was young and able again. Boy, would I teach them how to grow carrots. westwind.
... most women are interested in qualities such as flavor, texture, resistance and hardiness over size.
No flies on you, Mac. You caught the potential for double entendre.... most women are interested in qualities such as flavor, texture, resistance and hardiness over size.
LOL....I bet you would but I'd give you a run for the money. Some years back I took an interest in showing my veggies and home preserves at our local harvest fair. We pretty much bagged the lot and I am the undisputed (self-proclaimed) 'Carrot Queen' of the Yukon and I have several dedicated followers who are spreading the word on how to grow big and juicy carrots under any conditions.There, your just viewed Site has confirmed my worst fears. Women are on the acendency, they not only hold the reins in most things, but now they are infilterating the World of Produce. Not content with producing babies from under cabbages grown by men, they now want to grow the bloody cabbages.
I love it. Down on the Allotments in their Plastic igloos/. Wish I was young and able again. Boy, would I teach them how to grow carrots. westwind.
Having proved my point, I now leave such pursuits to others. Current interests are maximizing efficiency and personal well-being.
Forums are interesting in that I learn something new every day to integrate with my three dimensional life, hoping that I likewise have some things of value to share.
Check it out! I went out to water this morning and my poor little pepper plant that almost died like 10 times this year actually has blooms on it! I may get a pepper after all!
My mixed flower pots on the front porch are doing pretty well:
But my neighbor is making me look like a chump!
Yes they do, I'm with you on that. Also, avatars can be fun, I considered a troll picking his nose, but thought that might be just a bit much.
This picture reminded me of this millionaire I met. He wanted blooming flowers in his front yard all the time, so when the ones he had quit blooming he would have a crew come out, remove them and plant new flowers in full bloom.But my neighbor is making me look like a chump!
I wonder what his neighbors thought about that?
Growing things in November! I would be green with envy save that I am too busy avoiding frostbite for such frivolous waste of emotional energy.
Besides which, the milder climates attract far denser populations and I greatly appreciate having more elbow room and being able to step up on my horse and ride boldly off in all directions with only minor detours required to access this vast territory. I'll just have to get some more plants started under lights to ease my pain. Maybe Lobelia and a few herbs. First I have to bring the potting soil in to thaw, lol.
These two beauts came from my backyard this morning:
Mac1968. Just re-connected. I was wiped out at this end. Sure I was Hacked locally. Thanks Mac, you are the first Member I've made contact with. I was feeling very gloomy, what with not sleeping an all.
Lovely roses mate. My soil here is very suitable for roses, being mainly acidic, read clay.
The seed I distributed, cast to the winds, 7/9 days ago, has had a 30% emergence rate. Conditions have been cold. Our cold wind is a Southerly. Works it way up the west coast of Tasmania from Antartic waters and visits us here in Melbourne. Temp say 16/18 Celcius Max, 5/9 Celcius Min.
Not all that unusual for this time of the year, starting our summer that is. Southern Hemisphere.
I didn't go to the trouble of netting the scattered seed, so naturally the birds thought it was their seed and have not behaved well.
I will try and and include an image when there is something to see, and I have worked out how to include a picture from my photos in the Computer. Thanks once again. westwind.
Damn those birds...they're always behaving badly.
Glad my roses helped raise your spirits. They were even prettier in person...thanks to my crappy phone camera. I always try to provide fresh cut flowers at my weekly "Atheist Sunday Lunch"...if I've got anything in bloom.
Gorgeous blooms indeed, Mac. Flowers come in so many varieties of texture form and color. This climate and my location does not seem to suit perennials and the few I had established seem to have succumbed to the last couple of winters with their patterns of freezing and thawing and frost heaves. I start my annual flower seed indoors beginning in January for pansies, violas and February for petunias and tomatoes. My veggies I direct seed starting around mid-May through to the end of the month. Any earlier and the seed just takes longer to come up. Plantings made a week apart will come up at the same time.
I expect you may still have some of your seed germinate, Westwind, if the sharp-eyed birds have missed it, for some seed just takes 14-21 days to germinate, as in carrots and some herbs. I think the most aggressive germinators are the brassicas. They fairly leap out of the ground in my experience, in 2-5 days. All the best with your natural planting experiment.
Those damn birds. Not even a smile.
It's the beaks you see. Good for pecking upseed. Not so good for smiling. Have you ever seen a bird smile Mac1968? A rhode island red once winked at me, a hen bird to.
Should have dug up a couple of my bird-killer cats.
Better still. I could have made some cardboard cut outs of my killer cats and placed them stradgetically in my seed beds.
They are such survivalists. Better equipped I think than we are to get through Life. Global Warming will not impact on them as much as us.
Would you like to be a bird Mac1968? You could come and peck at my seed.. westwind.
Being a bird would be cool...you can fly...and poop on people you don't like.
What you need is a new attack cat...like this one:
MMaaatee, That Attack Kitten has a big head! And just look at his jaws, his/her jaws were made for T-Bone steaks. westwind.
So do you...you'd be a perfect match!
I found this photo of one of my petunias from earlier in the year.
(takes off hat, and blows "taps" on the horn) God rest her soul...she was taken by the wrath of god hail storm we had.
I've never seen anything like it:
This was all that was left of that bed:
Man, you have big hailstones in Texas. Is everything bigger in Texas? ( kitten had big head, hailstones are bigger).
I'm going to practice posting a picture. Please don't tell me how to do it just yet, tomorrow will do. westwind.
That was one doozy of a storm MacGyver and that's a very pretty flower. What variety of petunia is that? By the fleshy leaf stem, I would have guessed it to be a begonia. I am always searching my catalogs for new varieties of petunia to grow because they are one of the flowers that do well for me in this climate. I grow a few begonias as well but I keep them as houseplants up here.
This was taken on my covered deck a year ago.
I think you're right and I was wrong...I believe that was a begonia...not a petunia. My sister planted those...not me.
Just ask my girlfriend....giggity.if you need any help with posting an image let me know.
Oh...and by the way...I was going all Betsy Ross on ole glory before I even dried out, or the hail melted.
Man, you have big hailstones in Texas. Is everything bigger in Texas? ( kitten had big head, hailstones are bigger).
I'm going to practice posting a picture. Please don't tell me how to do it just yet, tomorrow will do
I lived in Texas 5 miles from DFW for 8 years. In that time I lived through 2 big hail storms. Both times I was at work parked in an underground parking facility. One of the guys I worked with ran out and brought back a piece of ice larger than the one in the picture below. Every house in my neighborhood including mine had to have their roofs replaced. All the new car dealers had hail sales.
I tried to run out an cover our car with a thick comforter...but failed:
our neighbors car didn't do much better:
MacGyver1968
I've been told that if you wait for a warm day and then place a small piece of dry ice in the dimples made by the hail strikes, you can actually pop out the dents. I've never seen this done before, but the science behind that claim sounds good. Would you happen to know if it really works?
I don't know...our Mercury had $6500 in damage...and barely made it under the "totaled" level.
What was so damaging about this storm...the hail didn't just fall straight down...for a while it fell at a 45 degree angle...which busted out side windows, and did a lot more damage.
It's so weird. I joined Neverfly in DFW back in summer 2010 and have never once been caught in any of the major hail storms that have hit. Or any of the tornados. I'm greatful but I know the odds are closing in on me.
For MacGyver1968.
Need your assistance in Posting Photo to my Poste on screen.
What I know. All my Photos and Images are in Windows Photo Gallery on my Hard Drive. I can email them at any time because the prompt is there on my hotmail screen.
When I have mt Poste screen up for the Thread Topic I can't see how I am to get a photo from Windows Photo Gallery.
My Printer has an SD-MMC Port for my Camera Chip, as does my Main Frame Hard Drive. Has a Share feature but mainly for email, or networking.
I can't really understand the cut and paste bit. I'll stop there. Being self taught with Computers and of account of my age I do experience difficulty coming to grips with a new procedure.
Can you do a step 1 step 2 type directions for me? I'll try and field any questions from your end. Sorry for asking, but I'm wasting a lot of time trying and you might provide the break through. westwind.
I'd be happy to mate. I personally use "Dropbox" to host all of the images I display. It's a small program you install on your computer, and it automatically uploads any file of any type to your Dropbox account. You just copy and paste the photo or file you want to share into the dropbox folder then right click on it to get the URL.
There are other free services like Photobucket that you can also use. I've found the forum software here to be a bit buggy when trying to upload images...so I just host them myself. To get the image to show...I don't use the photo icon in the editor...I just manually type "[img]" then paste the url and then type "[/img]"
Let me know if you have any trouble...and worst case... you can email the pic to me at macgyver1968@hotmail.com and I'll host them for you.
If you want to try to use the forum's upload...just click the image icon in the editor...the click "select files" and go to where the pic is saved. Click the red x to close the window, and the pic should show up in the editor. You can click on it to change the size if you need to.
Kinky Stewie and Brian.rar, eh?
The stuff you see on other peoples computers...
Aw...dude...you don't even know. As a computer tech...I've seen it all. I swore an oath not to be judgmental about the freaky porn icons people have on their desktop. I mean really freaky shit....asian girls vomiting in each others mouths...there are some sick fucks out there.
As a computer owner, you should be able to keep that shit out of sight.Aw...dude...you don't even know. As a computer tech...I've seen it all. I swore an oath not to be judgmental about the freaky porn icons people have on their desktop. I mean really freaky shit....asian girls vomiting in each others mouths...there are some sick fucks out there.
I think some people like it. We used to have this cougar that would bring us her computer to fix, and each time her desktop background picture was a nudie pic of her. We just got used to it...until one day, the freaking CEO of the company visited, and walked through my lab, only to see a 40-something spread eagle beaver on the work bench. Surprizing, he understood.
Yeah! That's a problem. Most people never expect to have a problem that requires they give their computer to someone else to fix. But I guess after the first time, you can pretty much figure she just didn't care what you got to look at. Maybe she was hoping you would like what you saw.
Oh...she totally did it on purpose...she had a crush on my counter guy...who was a 20-something, tall handsome chap who could have been in a boy band if he could sing. I think she wanted to teach him things....dirty things.
She sounds like the same kind of woman that Neverfly and I had as a home remodeling customer for a while. She was one of those WoW chicks that used to be a stripper before she got a WoW account and for some reason she thinks she still looks good (even without showering, shaving, exercising, or watching what she eats). She would hit on Neverfly right in front of me and her own husband. I felt sorry for her husband, he was a decent guy and he used to tell me he wished he was still married to his ex who was an alcoholic. He said she may have been drunk but at least she was faithful and would cook dinner for him once in a while. This girl was so shameless and gross that when we showed up to remodel her kitchen, her husband was out of town and she had a fellow WoW player "renting" a room from her. She came out of his room naked with only a blanket covering herself several times and she would hang her panties on the kitchen and living room furniture because she knew we had to move that furniture to get to the cabinets. She one day made a smart ass remark about Neverfly refusing to do the work without me present and that was it, we walked out on her. She didn't pay enough to put up with that crap.
While you are undertaking your broadcast seed gardening project, westwind, have you given any thought to harvesting the edible weeds which may endeavor to share this opportunity?
Weeds are nothing more than plants which choose to grow where we did not wish them to be. In many cases they are far hardier and even more nutritious than the crops we choose to cultivate. How crazy is that? My thoughts are that one reason we have pushed some of these very hardy and nutritious crops aside is because they are not commercially viable.
My neighbor up the lane covers dandelions with a plastic bucket to blanche them before harvesting, and I harvest the lambsquarter that abounds on the farm with no need to grow spinach for the LQ can easily be steamed and frozen for future use as a cooked veggie and it is milder in taste than spinach. Clover, Shepherd's Purse and Camomile also grow here and get put to use as do the fireweed tips in spring, usually the very first edible greens to appear after the snow melts and the indicator that I use to know when to plant my direct seeded vegetables.
For scheherazade. Nettles are the go here scheherazade. We call them stinging nettles, because that;s exactly they do if you approach them without gloves The top 3 inches of a 15 inch nettle are probably best., although the whole plant can be used. Famous for their iron content, they can be steamed till wilted and the steam water drank( now there's a word scheherazade), drank. Or Cooked like Spinach.
Dandelions have always been my best cropper, ans when I first came to live here, Aniseed bushes were evertwhere. Atichocke too. The other weed/plants I have never tried, and Shepherds Purse is not known here a-bouts.
You will see some Photos cheherazade, it won't happen overnight, but it will happen. I am like a Green ANT OR A ROTTWEILER, once I fasten my jaws on a technical Difficulty that technical difficulty better watch out. I normally take a couple of weeks to find a path through the linkage maze, but then I get great satisfaction for my achievment, like looking long and hard for gold, then discovering and old tobacco tin full of gold soverins from the gold rush days. All the seeds are through now, some are clustered, escpecially the Tomatoe seedlings, this will create a problem for me, for bending and working is a problem area. However, my son, if I can nail him, may help out here. The Bean seedlings are up, also the Zuchinies, and of course the Radishes. The weather has been coolish but I kept the ground damp anyway. Warmer weather is expected this weekend, 30/32 Celcius, so a little watering will be required.
I think I got a 60/70 % result from the broadcasting as far as seeds up, so thats not too bad. Now we will see growth I'm Hoping. Then. after xmas, flowering, then Feb/March for for maybe a cucumber or two, we'll see. THanks for posting. westwind.
Looking forward to the pictures WW.
The trees were all turning color this Thanksgiving....I snapped the pic with my cell phone outside of my Aunt's house.
For MacGuiver. Dear Mac. I sent my Photos to Admin. By email. Thought it was worth a try. But, as I expected, it's not on, and fair enough. I'm 3/4 of the way through my learning curve, just cannot send to Dropbox ( installed ) as yet, and, I expect, will not be able to double click/right click them from dropbox to the Thread in The Sub- Forum.
However, one door has opened for me. Give me three days and something will arrive for your action. westwind.
To send them to dropbox...just copy and paste the photo into the Dropbox "public" folder.
Just a report on the progress of the Thread Topic. Seeds randomally distributed. All up now that's coming up. Tomatoe seedlings emerged in two dinner plate size clumps. about 60/70 seedlings together. Lesson number one, scatter the tomatoe seeds separeatly from the main lot. Cucumber and suchinese, 6 of each came up, disappointing. Three types of Beans came up in sufficient quantities, tended to clump.
Birds have destroyed my Radishes by scratching for worms. I had them covered. Don't ask me how the blackbird got to them. Warm weather expected. will regulate watering. westwind.
Here's some pics of Westwind's beautiful garden:
Really..really nice. Good job sir.
Gotta be a big thank you to MacGyver here for hosting my garden pictures. There's always a way if you are really determined to have something happen.
MacGyver is now my fall back go to. In the meanwhile I shall be having a go at completing my learning curve to post without using up MacGyver's time. Here I wish to thank all Members who contacted me offering help. You see, I'm really a frustrated Ballet Dancer, and I find it embarrising to have to come to grips with IT. Once again thanks for your really keen effort to get those pictyres published MacGyver, it really is my garden, not my neighbours. westwind..
In the 2nd picture down, what are those plants with the big crinkly leaves behind the tomato plants?Gotta be a big thank you to MacGyver here for hosting my garden pictures. There's always a way if you are really determined to have something happen.
MacGyver is now my fall back go to. In the meanwhile I shall be having a go at completing my learning curve to post without using up MacGyver's time. Here I wish to thank all Members who contacted me offering help. You see, I'm really a frustrated Ballet Dancer, and I find it embarrassing to have to come to grips with IT. Once again thanks for your really keen effort to get those pictures published MacGyver, it really is my garden, not my neighbors. westwind.
I was happy to help WW...if you have anymore pics to post...just email them to me, and I post them for you, or send you the whole link so you can post them. Just send me a PM here, because I don't regularlly check that email address.
Well done to the Westwind/MacGyver tag team. Nice to see some growing things besides snowbanks, lol. Is that Fordhook Giant Swiss Chard that I see in a couple of the pictures Westwind? Swiss Chard grows well up here also and I was actually thinking it might be time to grow some again next year. Besides using it fresh, it can be blanched and frozen to use in the same way as frozen spinach.
There is a delicious looking Swiss Chard Artichoke Dip recipe at the following link.
In My Kitchen Garden: What To Do With Swiss Chard: Hot Swiss Chard Artichoke Dip Recipe and Other Ways To Cook and Enjoy My Favorite Leafy Green
arKane. Thanks for posting. ( HE HE HE ), Well, I guess you are going to be disappointed when I inform you that the ....plants with the big crinkly leaves... are last years Silver Beet gone to seed. They have seeded but I have been lazy about cutting leaves for the Kitchen. Absolutely too well fed on caviar these days.
If you could use a few let me know and I'll put them in the Post for you. westwind. ( Thanks for your pm. ).
Your welcome but I hate caviar, Yuck!
More of WW's photos:
This beauty came from my backyard this morning. It's cool to still be getting roses in Dec.
No... it isn't.
Grumpy cat agrees.
Check out my upside down buddy:
Just beautiful, you should take some of those purple blossoms to your wife.
004.JPG005.JPG003.JPG001,002,003,004,005.jpgNotice the Date and the Time. Especially the Blue Skys over Melbourne. Guess the end of the World might happen tonight, it won't happen overnight but it will happen.
Some of the results of my seed scattering. The last one above is of my radishes.
As experiments go it was, and is, worthwhile.
The best though are the Agapanthers. The bees love them, so that's something. westwind.
Nice.
This thread is getting a little tough to load. Maybe there's a way to resize the pictures in the text pain, and then people can click on them to load them in another tab...
Hello DaBOB. Thanks for your Poste. Yes, it's crowded house on this Thread.
The Roll over appears to be at 100 Postes. You have Page 2 choice then.
However DaBOB, the images have extended the available viewing space, as you have pointed out.
Not being a Whizz at manipulating Space Control myself, maybe ADMIN might like to have a look at access programming on this particular Thread, and come up with accessability entrance?
Good health to you and yours as this year terminates. Go easy on the Tomato Sauce. westwind.
There are plug ins available to cause your browser to not load images unless you click on them. This helps with people who have slow connections or as in this case, visiting heavy web pages. I don't remember what it is called, and I am sure there are several. I think there are even settings just within the browser itself. Will see what I can find.
Ok found a solution. If you go into your TSF settings, then click "general settings", scroll down to where it says "Thread Display Options", untick the box next to "Show Images" then click "save".
Then when you load the threads, instead of seeing the images you will see links to the images, that you can click. (just right click and select "open in new tab" so that you don't lose your place in the thread). This way you don't have to constantly load pictures you have already seen.
Thanks seagypsy. My Service Provider keeps logging me out, been going on for months. Very Very frustrating. The contract is up this January (VODAFONE), so I'll be asking a few questions. I currently Poste using thumbnail type images which you click on to enlarge in the present screen.
To do this I go to Quick Reply Space, double click new reply, this brings up new thread screen, scroll down a little to"" File management"", click on, brings up Browes Go Get Windows, go get your files, images, input them as directed to your Poste. Hey Presto. Click on Thumbnails.
Will study your reply and learn. westwind.
Correction: TSF "Forum Actions" -> "general settings"
Just, got lost looking in the settings of my profile. Thanks for the tip.
I have broadcast seed like that before, and as I was throwing the seed, I was thinking about spreading seed, just like they did in the old days.
Spreading seed like early humans.
I believe I (mainly) spread herb seeds. I spread them on regular house construction soil. There were no soil conditioners added to that soil, for maybe 8 - 20 years. The soil was very hard and sandy. I just walked around the back yard, throwing a mix of seeds, on any bare ground I could find. Then I watered the area a few times in the first few weeks, and then forgot about them.
Then one day I noticed 2 nice dill plants, and a few nice basil plants. I think at the time, I thought about how strong those plants were, to survive in that hard, dry, and hardly watered soil.
There is also an area in my old back yard, were you could just throw basil seeds, and they would grow. Then those plants would make seed, and before taking down the dead plants, I would just rip off all the seeds, and then let them fall on the ground. And next year there would be basil again.
I also had a garden patch of conditioned soil. Earlier this year I threw/planted some flower seed mix, to attract pollinating insects to the garden.
One of the species of plant in that mix really took off. The garden patch became overrun with these plants, that have orange flowers on them (and they are still blooming.)
They were actually very nice looking. And they hardly needed any watering, if ever.
Some people may say its better to rake the soil first, and I'm sure it is. But there's still something to be said, about just throwing seed.
For the next few years, I will be throwing seed. That's just were I am right now.
I am going to buy the cheapest seeds bulk, (buying some flower seed mix, to make certain girls interested in my garden, hint.)
And then I'm gonna throw some seed, just like our ancient ancestors did.
No soil conditioners, no tilling, no weeding, no planning, no rake, and no shovel.
I am also thinking about, taking this up to the next level, no watering.
The only thought to this form of gardening, is throwing the seed during the rainy season, or during a time when it will rain regularly, for a few weeks, in order to hatch the seeds.
This is gardening at its most easy and simplistic form. But perhaps I will (quickly) rake in seeds, along with throwing seeds.
Westwind you have brought fourth, a new form of gardening in me. A form of gardening were there is no work.
I am sorry for putting you on the spot.
But I think your new form of gardening, is so great, that it needs a name.
What do you want to call it?
And if you don't care about naming it, perhaps I could give it a name.
I plan to use this method of gardening for a few years, I would like this method to have a name.
Chad.
Last edited by chad; December 25th, 2012 at 12:48 AM.
I just remembered two years ago for winter planting, I used this method in another way.
Where I live the grass stops growing in winter.
Once the proper weather conditions came, I did this.
I cut the grass fairly low, and then used a blower, to blow away all the small material, covering the bare soil bellow the grass.
I then threw various plant species seeds, onto the grass (I just threw seeds on top the grass.)
I watered the grass areas a few times in the first few weeks.
The seeds were a mix of greens, several kinds of lettuce, and some Asian varieties of lettuce and greens.
In certain areas of the yard, lettuce patches came up, just growing with the grass. They were not huge, but were they substantial.
In another area of the yard, a Asian variety of greens came up very nicely. I had some very large mustard green like plants. They were just growing in the middle of the grass.
Chad.
I call it "" Gobble Gardening "". Reason being my backyard birds account for half the potential of the seed scattering. Even if you scatter at night and water well in the sparrows and Field birds get their share.
I just remembered two years ago for winter planting, I used this method in another way.
Where I live the grass stops growing in winter.
Once the proper weather conditions came, I did this.
I cut the grass fairly low, and then used a blower, to blow away all the small material, covering the bare soil bellow the grass.
I then threw various plant species seeds, onto the grass (I just threw seeds on top the grass.)
I watered the grass areas a few times in the first few weeks.
The seeds were a mix of greens, several kinds of lettuce, and some Asian varieties of lettuce and greens.
In certain areas of the yard, lettuce patches came up, just growing with the grass. They were not huge, but were they substantial.
In another area of the yard, a Asian variety of greens came up very nicely. I had some very large mustard green like plants. They were just growing in the middle of the grass.
Chad.
Still, theres merit in following nature. I am forced into Gardening in this way because of a passed the use by date lower Spine condition. No digging under any circumstances. Hips also starting to give trouble. But I love being involved with the Garden. Always have been.
I've had success with scattering bean seed this year. I wonder if it is the actual size of the seed that is important? Also had some Radish and Red Beet success. Just two zucchini plants. I did weed and rake the seed into the top of the ground, but not all seed were covered.
I think small raised beds are the go, with compost scattered on top before scattering the seed, all types. When I say compost, I mean natural compost, half broken down stable straw with a few deposits dropped therein. This is easily obtainable with a few inquiries. You should buy bulk from the stables and heap it up ready for scattering before seeding.
With smaller contained areas you can throw a couple of layers of second hand bird cage wire netting straight onto the ground over the seed. Stops the birds for a couple of weeks. Then remove to the next spot.
Lots of experimental basis here. That;s what it is all about. '' Gobble Gardening "". westwind.
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IMAGE No. 1. Corn. As from I scattered my bird seed and Nature said, you have done good. So the corn kernels that lodged in the cracks have germinated. WOW!!.
IMAGE No. 2. Climbing beans from ..I have gone forth and scattered my seed... Some dwarf beans have also prospered. Two or three Tomatoe seedlings. I'm hopeful.
westwind.
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Self generating every year. Loves hot flat conditions. You name it. I've got it. And my yard sparrows, family members now, enjoy a peck at the seeds, thousands of seeds. Will last now until the Autumn. Hotter it is, the better they grow. Do not need watering. westwind.
beans01.jpgwestwinds beans.
Quote "" I shall go forth and scatter my seed ""ënd Quote. Yes, a small harvest yet, and I'm afraid that out of all the seed I scattered, beans will be about allI'll have to show for it.
I have radish flowers blooming lovely--plus skinny radishes that wouldn't nourish a picture of a chicken.
My conclusion: When you go forth to scatter your seed do so in a one inch deep furrow in a raised bed, at least three foot high by six foot long by eighteen inches wide. westwind.
Yeah, me too.Maaaannn....I thought this thread was going to be about WW knocking up some chick he brought home from the bar.
Agree there are some beautiful gardens and pictures on this site
Various seeds have differing conditions under which they flourish, westwind, and while many will germinate and grow from a surface scattering, others require a bit of soil to cover them to do their best. Radishes are generally a cool weather crop and will bolt and go to seed without making a root if conditions are too hot, as you have been experiencing. Tomatoes will drop their blossoms without setting if temperatures are too extreme and peppers also are quite temperamental in that regard.
Your green beans look lovely, and that is one crop that our season is too short to grow out of doors although a few friends have tried beans and corn in their very large greenhouses with the result that they get a minimum yield for maximum effort. For me, carrots and greens are the most consistent performers under a wide variety of conditions. Pretty soon time to start some seeds here. I usually start my flowers and tomatoes around Feb. 1st.
I call it "" Gobble Gardening "". Reason being my backyard birds account for half the potential of the seed scattering. Even if you scatter at night and water well in the sparrows and Field birds get their share.
I just remembered two years ago for winter planting, I used this method in another way.
Where I live the grass stops growing in winter.
Once the proper weather conditions came, I did this.
I cut the grass fairly low, and then used a blower, to blow away all the small material, covering the bare soil bellow the grass.
I then threw various plant species seeds, onto the grass (I just threw seeds on top the grass.)
I watered the grass areas a few times in the first few weeks.
The seeds were a mix of greens, several kinds of lettuce, and some Asian varieties of lettuce and greens.
In certain areas of the yard, lettuce patches came up, just growing with the grass. They were not huge, but were they substantial.
In another area of the yard, a Asian variety of greens came up very nicely. I had some very large mustard green like plants. They were just growing in the middle of the grass.
Chad.
Still, theres merit in following nature. I am forced into Gardening in this way because of a passed the use by date lower Spine condition. No digging under any circumstances. Hips also starting to give trouble. But I love being involved with the Garden. Always have been.
I've had success with scattering bean seed this year. I wonder if it is the actual size of the seed that is important? Also had some Radish and Red Beet success. Just two zucchini plants. I did weed and rake the seed into the top of the ground, but not all seed were covered.
I think small raised beds are the go, with compost scattered on top before scattering the seed, all types. When I say compost, I mean natural compost, half broken down stable straw with a few deposits dropped therein. This is easily obtainable with a few inquiries. You should buy bulk from the stables and heap it up ready for scattering before seeding.
With smaller contained areas you can throw a couple of layers of second hand bird cage wire netting straight onto the ground over the seed. Stops the birds for a couple of weeks. Then remove to the next spot.
Lots of experimental basis here. That;s what it is all about. '' Gobble Gardening "". westwind.
Another form of gardening that I have had success with is growing plants indoors.
You could get HID lights and grow tomatoes in your closet. But these lights are expensive, kinda heavy, and let out a bit of heat.
But I have found that you can grow many plants indoors, with regular florescent bulbs, mixed with florescent (grow) bulbs.
One of my favorite gardens of all times, was a garden in my living room, under florescent (grow) bulbs.
I grew herbs like basil, dill, parsley, ex.ex.
I had the plants in small plastic pots, with a tray under them to catch excess water. (I would pure water on the tray, rather than on the plants to water them. This way I could water 20 pots at once.)
The plants were beautiful, and in perfect condition, because there are no insects inside, or harsh weather conditions.
You can also get a pump and a timer to automatically water the garden, in a soil based hydroponic like system.
I have lived in apartment like conditions for the last 8 years, and I miss being able to do whatever I want.
2 friends and I are about to buy about 30 acres (edit:60+acres) of land in the country (to retire there.)
We are trying to find the right spot. Good soil, near good fishing, close to New Orleans, close to a larger town, ex.ex.
But I kinda want to move there now. I want some egg/eating chickens, a small talapia fish farm, a solar/wind power system, a vast garden, ex.ex.
But it appears I will be trapped in the big city, living under my landlords rules for a few more years.
It also appears we have both been using a similar system of gardening. So I am not fully stealing your ideas.
Westwind, I am going to call my gardening style "the method."
I just want a familiar name to call it, when I rub it in my brothers face, that my gardening methods are less work than his.
This is a beautiful thread here Westwind,
Chad.
Last edited by chad; January 19th, 2013 at 05:55 AM.
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