Notices
Results 1 to 19 of 19

Thread: moronic muslims

  1. #1 moronic muslims 
    Forum Sophomore
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    112
    So what's a bigger insult to Mohammed?
    some dumb movie, or the attempted murder of a 14 year old girl in his name,
    i'm sure the protests or lack there of will reveal all.

    Jesu Christ, i often wish the religious would grow up and go to hell


    Reply With Quote  
     

  2.  
     

  3. #2  
    Forum Radioactive Isotope zinjanthropos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Driving in my car
    Posts
    4,844
    I can remember reading a post once that went something like this....If we ever got rid of religion then we would find another reason to kill each other . IOW the point was that religion plays no part in the killing of human beings. According to this guy, you could arbitrarily substitute anything for religion and people will still kill.... Killing is inherent in human beings so religion is blameless.

    Yet we would find another reason to kill he said, as if he didn't realize he just labelled religion as a reason to kill. When faced with this logic, no wonder people are so, how do you say....fucked up.


    All that belongs to human understanding, in this deep ignorance and obscurity, is to be skeptical, or at least cautious; and not to admit of any hypothesis, whatsoever; much less, of any which is supported by no appearance of probability...Hume
    Reply With Quote  
     

  4. #3  
    Forum Sophomore
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    112
    Sure, Killing in the name of religion is no surprise, as a species we do love to kill each other.

    But the above point; i got the idea from a newspaper opinion piece; is worth considering,

    We saw riots all over the world by muslims after some american douche made some lame movie. Even in Sydney Australia.
    This rioting class of muslims is not generally considered extremist.
    But look what they are saying; I am not offended by the attempted murder of a young girl in the name of Mohammed.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  5. #4  
    Forum Radioactive Isotope sculptor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    4,211
    according to studies conducted by our military
    lass than 10% of us are "natural born killers"
    which they have attempted to alter through revamping their training programs.

    so your
    as a species we do love to kill each other
    is just a tad rad dad
    Reply With Quote  
     

  6. #5  
    Forum Sophomore
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    112
    agreed it was a flippant remark.

    Though what about the killing we do nothing to stop, through inaction. Perhaps we are natural born indirect killers.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  7. #6  
    Moderator Moderator
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Washington State
    Posts
    8,416
    according to studies conducted by our military
    lass than 10% of us are "natural born killers"
    Correct. In fact one of the most challenging problems the US military often had until WWII was Soldiers unwillingness to kill others--the results of this resistance were units surrendering or being overrun even though they still have more than 90% of their soldiers and most of their ammunition. The US military didn't tackle the problem in a scientific manner until near the end of the war when people like SL Marshall started doing formal analysis. The aftermath of those studies were many changes to training--many of them very simple to put into effect. Things like doing marksmanship using man looking targets instead of bulls eyes to overcome peoples natural aversion at putting a person in their rifle sights for the first time-- of course the idea is to make the process of identifying a target and accurately firing the weapon as automatic and least distracted by emotionalism as possible. Putting them though increasingly more realistic training scenes with injured soldiers etc. A lot of this early work is documented in "Men Against Fire" by SL Marshall.
    --

    "
    So what's a bigger insult to Mohammed?
    some dumb movie, or the attempted murder of a 14 year old girl in his name,"
    Is a poor question...Muslims don't look for Mohammed's approval--he was only a prophet and is dead.
    Meteorologist/Naturalist & Retired Soldier
    “The Holy Land is everywhere” Black Elk
    Reply With Quote  
     

  8. #7  
    The Doctor Quantime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    4,546
    A rational mind doesn't kill, wound, mame, brutalise, rape etc.
    "If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe". - Carl Sagan
    Reply With Quote  
     

  9. #8  
    Forum Sophomore
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    112
    Quote Originally Posted by Quantime View Post
    A rational mind doesn't kill, wound, mame, brutalise, rape etc.
    -emotional nonsense.

    Lynx,
    I don't think it's a poor question. A biggotted hate inspired question maybe.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  10. #9  
    Moderator Moderator
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Washington State
    Posts
    8,416
    biggotted hate inspired question maybe.
    Perhaps and displaying ignorance about Islam which assumes Mohammad is some half-god to them, like Jesus is to the Christians.
    Meteorologist/Naturalist & Retired Soldier
    “The Holy Land is everywhere” Black Elk
    Reply With Quote  
     

  11. #10  
    Universal Mind John Galt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    14,168
    Quote Originally Posted by Quantime View Post
    A rational mind doesn't kill, wound, mame, brutalise, rape etc.
    That may be true, but I thought we were talking about humans, so your point is irrelevant.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  12. #11  
    Forum Sophomore
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    112
    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    biggotted hate inspired question maybe.
    Perhaps and displaying ignorance about Islam which assumes Mohammad is some half-god to them, like Jesus is to the Christians.
    Yes i have always understood it that muslims consider Mohammed as some half -God, not literally of course.

    semantics!
    Half God, Super-Prophet whatever!

    I'm pretty sure he's as big in Islam as Jesus is in Christianity.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  13. #12  
    Moderator Moderator
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Washington State
    Posts
    8,416
    I'm pretty sure he's as big in Islam as Jesus is in Christianity.
    Not even close.
    Mohammad was the last of a long list of prophets--he was a man.
    There are specific prohibitions to showing images of Mohammad because Islam teaches that one shouldn't worship Mohammad so they confuse him with Allah.
    Muslims do not seek Mohammad's approval or accept him into their hearts--those things are between man and Allah.
    Of course he's the messenger from Allah (through the angel Gabriel) and his teachings figure prominently in Islam.

    Mohammad is to a Muslims closer to how all three religions of the book view Moses than how Christians view Jesus.
    Meteorologist/Naturalist & Retired Soldier
    “The Holy Land is everywhere” Black Elk
    Reply With Quote  
     

  14. #13  
    Forum Sophomore
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    112
    OK then, thanks for taking the time to enlighten me.
    I guess i incorrectly came to that assumption because he started islam, (yes i know, on the shoulders of moses, abraham..). And news stories about muslims taking offence are usually about mohammed being insulted and not Allah.

    I read today that some Islamic clerics in Pakistan have issued a fatwa against the Taliban gunmen who attempted to kill the 14 year old girl. Which in the context of a sordid eye for an eye mentality, pleases me.


    I'm just disgusted at the recent widely publicesed murder attempt, and the september 11 rioting. And nervous about the long term affects of the plans to build another muslim ghetto/complex in my city.

    I'm really starting to hate religions, loonies like Paul Braum and every muslim i read about in the news don't help.
    Succintly put in a newspaper i read yesterday, with regard to research into male youth suicide and homosexuality "Could church teaching on homosexuality be the new psychological child-abuse issue of the coming decade?"
    Reply With Quote  
     

  15. #14  
    Moderator Moderator
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Washington State
    Posts
    8,416
    I read today that some Islamic clerics in Pakistan have issued a fatwa against the Taliban gunmen who attempted to kill the 14 year old girl. Which in the context of a sordid eye for an eye mentality, pleases me.
    Good for them--that's exactly what needs to happen to turn the tide against the extremist--I hope that becomes a roar.
    Meteorologist/Naturalist & Retired Soldier
    “The Holy Land is everywhere” Black Elk
    Reply With Quote  
     

  16. #15  
    WYSIWYG Moderator marnixR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Cardiff, Wales
    Posts
    5,810
    Quote Originally Posted by pedronaut View Post
    I read today that some Islamic clerics in Pakistan have issued a fatwa against the Taliban gunmen ...
    what was the content of the fatwa ? after all, a fatwa is merely a doctrinal pronouncement by a muslim cleric, and its content is more of interest that the fact that one was issued
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
    Reply With Quote  
     

  17. #16  
    The Doctor Quantime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    4,546
    Quote Originally Posted by pedronaut View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Quantime View Post
    A rational mind doesn't kill, wound, mame, brutalise, rape etc.
    -emotional nonsense.
    Elaborate.
    "If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe". - Carl Sagan
    Reply With Quote  
     

  18. #17  
    Forum Freshman skyeliam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    I move at 1.7 m/s
    Posts
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by pedronaut View Post
    So what's a bigger insult to Mohammed?
    some dumb movie, or the attempted murder of a 14 year old girl in his name,
    i'm sure the protests or lack there of will reveal all.

    Jesu Christ, i often wish the religious would grow up and go to hell
    I get where you are coming from, but the title of this thread could be perceived as highly offensive. And, although I'm against the violence of the protests, they are more then just a protest against a movie. For 3 decades the world has dumped metaphorical "gasoline" over the Middle East, the movie just provided the spark necessary to start the fire.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  19. #18  
    Forum Freshman pogomutt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Southern Colorado, 8000' up.
    Posts
    32
    [QUOTE=sculptor;358312]according to studies conducted by our military
    lass than 10% of us are "natural born killers"
    which they have attempted to alter through revamping their training programs.

    so your
    as a species we do love to kill each other
    Do you have a supporting link?
    Reply With Quote  
     

  20. #19  
    Moderator Moderator
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Washington State
    Posts
    8,416
    Quote Originally Posted by pogomutt View Post
    Do you have a supporting link?
    As for the military part, I provided one already which was "Men Against Fire" by SL Marshall.
    Though the term i"natural" is too broad in this case--since obviously the young men joining the Army of the 1940s and 1950s, which were difficult to train to kill in actually combat, even to save themselves, are a composite of genetics and their mostly Christian environment they were raised in.
    Meteorologist/Naturalist & Retired Soldier
    “The Holy Land is everywhere” Black Elk
    Reply With Quote  
     

Similar Threads

  1. Muslims and Israel.
    By mmatt9876 in forum Politics
    Replies: 38
    Last Post: February 3rd, 2012, 03:01 PM
  2. Muslims in China.
    By mmatt9876 in forum History
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: January 29th, 2012, 04:53 AM
  3. black holes-dark matter (a moronic non-genius theory)
    By orion6676 in forum Astronomy & Cosmology
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: June 29th, 2010, 06:42 PM
  4. Islam view On coexistance (muslims & non-muslims)
    By Silex7 in forum Scientific Study of Religion
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: August 19th, 2007, 09:14 AM
  5. imams not representative of UK muslims
    By marnixR in forum In the News
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: July 7th, 2007, 04:08 PM
Bookmarks
Bookmarks
Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •