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    You might know about the famous novel 'the time machine' by h.g.wells and its movie too. Also other famous movie like 'back to the future'. So in all these movies there is concept of time travelling back and forth. But in h.g.wells novel its written that time machine only takes him into the distant future and when he tries to return he only dwells into the karmic rerun glimpses of his past only as if acted upon in a recording in a nut shell.
    And also the time machine works on the principles of light energy, electrical energy, prism and time loop portals occuring in fourth dimension in space.
    But these things theories are rarely seen in movie of michael j fox car which is ran through an electrical interphase.
    What if the general idea in this time travelling concept is of 'accelerated motion' from a reference point of time to another. Such like a electrical locomotive which runs on electricity overhead wiring moves from one time frame towards another, so thereby accelerating in time movement and achieving smaller time travels if one gain in the sleeps in the fourth dimension like train unpeculiarly halting at invisible unknown stations in time frame??? Or at time travelled destinations!


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    Forget for a while the working principles of 'The Time Machine', lets assume that we are still living in the 1500 a.d. times and nothing has changed much our civilizations are just as of now as would had been in that time. And the modern inventions are just the baby discoveries of year 2000 which should develope further to see a new generation in 2500 a.d. The present day gadgets adds up to just 25% to our modernized lifestyle but in reality we are still exactly as in 1500 the people would had been.
    So suppose the inventions discoveries of year 1500 a.d. were once practiced as baby steps experiments in years 1000 a.d., then 1000 a.d. would had been the first beginning stages of science even theoretical. Perhaps even hand held computer inventions were there and even lcd tvs in 1000 a.d. years. So what if some japanese science enthusiasts group who once were travelling by a small ship swallowed by a big whale. After weeks spending inside the whale the japanese were defecated on an island across a dark place. They didn't knew but the whale had taken them from planet earth into the fourth dimension towards a distant space planet light years ahead. The japanese then in the 1000 a.d. took to rebuilding the dark planet with colonizing structures, computers, networking from its core buildup. As years progressed the japanese race evolved much further adapting surviving with other bio diversity of the dark planet. These japanese race vanished in a time warp or perhaps tried to return back in time by building space crafts. The humans when they reached the dark planet they found it empty. Like as the factory colony in movie alien and the space colony of predators!


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    So what could be the function principles of The Time Machine?
    There is a big Ni-Cd battery cell like a truck battery, then there are three circular moving umbrella like structures perhaps are made of photo-electric rectangular filaments conducting piezoelectric effects, the prism glasses might be attached to the photo electric filaments, the ni-cd cells generate energy which moves the three circular structures thereby inducing photo electric effect with energy production, then the prisms which refracts and promotes more energy. The piezo electric effect then adds for electrical induction in human materials such as an optical interference. Somehow this energy created engulfs the 'Time machine and its subject' and accelerated time velocity makes it seem to cross another future time zone!!! What do you think?
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    The story tellers (book & novel) invent time machine because they are imagining stuff to make them happy. Real life is much more sad, and there is no time machine. -You shouldn't be carried away with their fantasy, it will mind alter you & make you have ridiculous desire...
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    In the time machine there is a date period light years meter and a handle. The more the calibration on the meter, the more the energy output which takes the Time Machine forward into the future. This invention if its real would had been a wonder in those days of 1566a.d. Its said to have taken h.g. Wells into the 700 a.d.-800a.d. and also into the future.
    I checked my minds' memories about time travelling and found that through some dark measures someone had taken me into time travelling into the past perhaps not the future. But i can't remember if it was a time machine or a portal through which i went. But i do remember clearly that when i had returned to normal state in present day, i couldn't see properly as every movement was an alteration electronic distortion of a already happened past itself. And i was affected by severe trauma after seeing things in the past that i couldn't speak properly like tongue tied and had fits. Like the future that the hollywood or any other film depicts of out past is just a cool imaginary creation work, while the real past is derogatory, insane and bad.
    In the muslim texts its said that we on earth going in backwards time future. So if we try to go into the past/future time, we are infact breaking nature laws. So i come back my soul(mind/body) is not able to adjust to the present day time period, and feels distortion in time space everything the objects seeming are infact two dimensional -three dimensional rather than opaque. What if then h.g.wells with his time machine had never travelled to any distant future, he infact had travelled to past only thinking of it as his seen future world till the origins of earth seeing red crustaceans, origins of moon, sun formation and dark earth planet.
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    And also in my memories i had even seen the Morlocks as depicted by h.g.wells which come from beneath the ground and has height around 6foot 6inch average having a snout.
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    These morlocks were standing on white coloured crystalline sands as if standing on a descending slope of a mountain but the lands seem parallel to the human eyes. So when h.g.wells reaches into the eloi people village he sees that they infact used to crawl to their dwellings, the structure of earth lands is not always the same but changes through time lapse and would be or would had been like a slope criss cross like mountaineous region but seems parallel to the human eyes.
    Lets suppose that indian region is the eloi people village which h.g.wells studied when the english had colonized india. So people in india live a core lifestyle somewhat thinkative. What if going away from india region towards european, russian and american region, their people live a constricted lifestyle like robotics like a software program as depicted in matrix movie. Their people unknowingly knowingly are doing the same things again and again at precise timings and meeting the same people and voicing the same texts thoughts again n' again. Like what if the people of europe, russia and america regions are exact same as they would had been in 1985s and not anyone has aged a bit. And if an indian visits them in 1995, he would see them as a devised program, meet many people and see new things. Then after so many years the same person again revisits the same countries he had been in say in 2010, and he sees the same people he met all the way back then when he had visited in 1995. Only that the program has been revamped with new modern improvised gadgets and things which were there earlier too. But the people are speaking the same recorded texts again and again and doing the same things again and again. Oh whats so fun!
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    If suppose as you might had seen the Time Machine movie there is a funny scene when h.g.wells shows his eloi indian friends the place where he and his family used to reside, even his office in london which in the future (i.e. in past) is a shrub covered land in a jungle. But is very near to india walkable distance where eloi people reside and also to the library(of modern improvised future) of electronics apparitions and knowledge base which too is in ruins(but somehow appeared in the past as well). So does the fourth dimension allows people across far of lands come closer to one another not in days but in minutes. What if our life present day is itself a melodrama where we and our fellow beings are themselves traversing through the fourth dimension but coming to the same place where we started. So some persons who are expert in time traversing in short moments are infact cheating through time and then progressing.
    So as h.g.wells thinks himself that his life in london with his socialites and science laboratory, was more distinct virtueous than the life he sees away with the time machine. He then resides in 1579 a.d. in london and time travells as in the movie to a future world of wars! Lets say he travells to germany of 1938 a.d., so he then sees the german city in flames and he looks up that the moon in the sky has been falling like a dissentegrated star. He then in the darkness is startled by a half-track through which nazi soldiers try to catch him. H.g.wells then enquires and the nazi soldier replies him that there was a dispute between the higher authorities and moon space colony. So some miscreats destroyed the moon colony and the moon was shattered.
    As i had seen in tv documentaries that adolf hitler nazis had done modern experiments after their industrial revolution and war machines in making UFOs and space rockets which would take their german aryan people into outer space even colonizing on the moon. So what if the concepts as shown in movie The time machine are true and somehow nazi germany under adolf hitler were trying to cheat through time in 1920s to move towards a future time zone of 2890s, but the time had to curtail back to its original state.
    Then lastly h.g.wells also travells to a future time zone where the society has become like star trek. So these assumptions aren't fake there should be such modern society somewhere if not at this time period of earth where there is creation of electronic apparition and library of knowledge base, or is it just a minds logical reasoning concept!!!
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    The movie 'The Time Machine' also puts to question the theory of man's evolution as described by yester years biologists. They say man evolved through ape- like mammals probably from lemurs and monkeys. They then evolved as ramapethecus, australopithecus, cromagnun, primordial man, neandertheal man...!!! But in the movie by H.G.wells does he try to convey to us that the humans as we are today just were in the past too much before pre- christ era? And the primitive men were believed to be a distinct human like races which once existed on earth just as dinosaurs, giant elephants, saber cats????
    I once in my dream once had seen that american farming association once had brought their machinery, hi-tech fertilizers to promote agriculture in india. So they based their base in northern india where the soil is alluvial. But somehow draught came and they left india. But when the indian farmers went to their homelands they found that the farms were full of weeds. And big large tunnels borroughs were seen in the fields. The indian said they never saw anyone and like time travel lapse they had came afterwards. So who did the tunneling and burroughs, even the americans and neighbouring countries denied. So if the primordial tribers whose remnants were found by biologists still existed on earth but lived hidden away from our civilizations!!!
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    Please see post #8.
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    I should consider watching movie ' the lord of the rings'. The movie is based on a world war 2 soldier who went into psychosis sleep in the trenches and saw glimpses of a timeline of civilization later he wrote a book. This movie is infact of wizardry existing in modern day world. And accounts for a map somewhere in the asian region, perhaps many of its description tribers are associated with regions around asia. So what if the time keeper in the hypnosis sleep psychosis who governs the earth even transforms the people described in LOTR movie as humans??? And one had to apprehend the tribers by the minds' eyes!!?? The shape and dimensions being different but appear as humans adjusted in micro seconds.
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    Pringle. Have you ever considered the possibility of the Time Machine being an allegory - or even just a story?
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    The peculiar thing about The Time Machine is that why doesn't it changes the age of H.G.Wells himself when he travells back and forth in time???
    I watched the movie again and admired it. In one scene when he is in the british 14th century his wife dies in a road mishap. His Time Machine is made out of a oldest generation car as a base. He then vanishes in his backyard and time moves forward into the modern world progression. But as there are changes around him, the time machine h.g.wells remain invisible to the people around him. The light interference generated by the moving umbrella like structures engulfs the time machine as a shell. And his age remains constant throughout the passage of time. In one scene his locket containing his wife's picture slips out of his hand at an instance of modern time lapse out of the time machine. So what kind of light which envisages the time machine to make it travel into time further?
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    Pringle and feasible: why don't you guys tackle something simple like: How does the Flintstone's TV work?
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    I found this info about study of light....
    Electromagnetic spectrum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    What does that have to do with this discussion topic?
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    I think that the 14th century scientists might be studying the wavelength spectrum perhaps associated with time telemetry.
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    In the movie The Time Machine, h.g.wells works for the construction of his invention at his home in old english world of 16th century. When in his home there is old electrical wiring system and many schematic diagrams pertaining mathematical calculations. So was mathematics was something different altogether back in those times very complex and nowdays the maths in higher college studies is infact in concise form???
    What i infer and have a theory for this movie is that....since h.g.wells life is like a time traversing program where he traverses and tries alternative futures. But in the original movie script its said he first travelled to 700-800a.d. years. But there is no mention in the movie version that might be as time travel theories postulates that one cannot move backwards in time. Or in other say the time machine only travels towards the future but lands in time zone very much like the past. But in one scene when sita his eloi village friend is trapped by trigolytes and their leader. H.g.wells moves forth in time machine and even comes back to save her through time travell back as well as forth.
    So assuming our own set of life as a programs spaced at distance but at a similar lapse of time. And we humans on earth as having distinct identities at this time of ours. Then suppose the past where our ancestors lived having too distinct identities in their time frame. So assume that the past scene and the present ours overllapped at precise time specific. Gradually this would be our dark zone of time where we could actually converse with our ancestors. Like for example there are many kingsly castles in england cause of their monarchy past. And suppose a identity of the present day meets at a junction of time with its ancestors at its dark. Then this injuction is pressumably intervened by a white light which appears from the sky for there is time connection between past and present. This white light brings back us to our normal present time. So what i think is h.g.wells knew about this supernatural theory but thought or could had made possible to contain process the white light which interluded time lapse past present as one in his 'time machine'. But this is a cosmic heavenly light how could it be created in a machine?
    I thought it could have been a light emitting diode?
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    Figure (a) is the diagram of the 16th century steam engine propelled car model turned into a Time Machine. In this time machine, there are two retracting moving axils (hydraullics)which support the prism structures 1 and 2. The steam combustion chamber drives the crankshaft of these axills 5 and 6. The prism moving structures with the axills are constructed in a way that one is above the other but their concentrics are parrallel to each other. There is also a chair and a slot machine which calliberated the time shift phase the machine needs to travel to. There should also be a ni-cd cell battery underneath which instigates the steam combustion and also drives electricity through the axills for charging the prism.

    In diagram (b), the semi-hemispherical moving prism structure is described. It has photodielectric dual layers of prism plates which moves concentric while emitting light.

    In diagram (c), the piezoelectric energy which displaces time firstly move outwards to the sides like concave axis and then converges inwards into a sphere engulfing the Time Machine radius.

    The author then works on perhaps laplace integral equation???!

    What i think is the time machine which enters the fourth dimension loophole that is it moves in only one direction either forward or backwards into the darkness.
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    I want the car. Steam engines fascinate me more than Time Machines.
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    Just sit back and enjoy the movies!
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    I again watched the movie, if the axils weren't moving, then what imparted the revolution to the circular prism moving structures!!?
    On either side there are two layers of prism circular structures moving in opposite direction thereby creating a concentric energy.
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    And other significant theories of this classic movie...
    Hallucination, clairevoyance telepathy and do we meet the same identities again and again in some other forms!
    And last but not the least - could humans somehow change the orbit of earth and moon? What could then be the outcome and consequences!
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    I again searched my memories visions and i remembered that i had seen the wall clock had stopped. And just as in the 'time machine' movie the clock time moves backwards.
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