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And explain why you think so
September 5th, 2006, 02:02 PM
I persinally consider those opposites. But my wondering is simple. Do you rather be entirely logical, or entirely emotional?
And explain why you think so
i'd much rather be balanced and hold both values.
not to hot not too cold, just right.
Being emotional brings nothing but suffering. My answer is logic.
It also reminds us we are humans and not machines, If we just used logic all the time there might be an argument that it would dictate we all commit suicide - that is since we are all going to die, as soon as we have produced the next generation we 'logically' have no further use. - At 70, I'll stick to both using each as it suits. Rather akin to the duality of a photon.Originally Posted by VMStudent
Being emotional makes us a lot more social then being logical. We use our emotions while talking to, understanding, loving or hating other people, but it also can cause suffering just as VMStudent said. We need our emotions to live with other people, so if I had to choose between Logical and Emotional and I couldn’t combine it I'd say emotional, unless you're willingly giving up your social life.
the question isn´t that you can choose between. it´s either logical or emotional now.i'd much rather be balanced and hold both values.
And i agree with VMstudent. tis nothing but suffering bieng emotional
Logic dictates that commiting suecide is nothing worth. and giving a offpsring is also logical. And we logicaly have usage of us after since we can bring more children into this world and by that spread our genes further. LogicalIf we just used logic all the time there might be an argument that it would dictate we all commit suicide - that is since we are all going to die, as soon as we have produced the next generation we 'logically' have no further use.
Well a computer is able to show logic after a few lines of code but no one has yet been able to code emotions. So while I think it is important to know why you are doing everything, you shouldnt just go around like a robot , unemotionless, even if it causes pain, Emotions are necessary as an indicator of humanity.
Emotions are biologicaly less complicated. Makes the species do what it shall do. Logic is biologicaly complicated. And is able to fullfill all needs of emotions.
Pain, suffering, love, hate, dispair all emotions is a simple biological ways to make you do what you have to do. To live. TO interact. To exist. To eat. To love. TO reproduce
All this can logic do. and logic gives the right answers without conflicts. Gives us everything emotions can and more.
Conclution: Emtions are not needed, and only causes pain, suffering and dispair.
Yes but emotions also cause Joy, happiness, hope and love. So you have to make a choice, is the Good worth dealing with the Bad and I believe it is.
So you seriously think people can get by without emotions?
Out of interest Zelos, and I'm not incinuating anything, do you have a girlfriend/boyfriend?
What's their opinion of you not thinking emotions are necessary?
The problem here is that the poll requires you to choose one of 2 options which are NOT mutually exclusive. If the question said which quality do you prize above the other it would make more sense.
As things are though it's like saying would you like blonde hair or red-fingernails.
Zelos,
I can see that you are a huge Star Trek fan.
Joy, happines, hope and love. Its all for one purpose. By making you happy evolution makes you want to do things again. By giving you hope it makes you not give up and die when it as most dark. Love gives you the will to have someone. To reproduce withYes but emotions also cause Joy, happiness, hope and love. So you have to make a choice, is the Good worth dealing with the Bad and I believe it is.
Girlgfriends are irrelevant. You will complydo you have a girlfriend/boyfriend?
No i don´t and to be honest i don´t care so much. But my friends(both females and males) say nothing since i keep it to myself and only says things about logic
I am. And borg is my favorites. Vulcans are in my eyes the second best species in ST. except of bieng jackasses.Zelos,
I can see that you are a huge Star Trek fan.
Negotiation is irrelvant. You will be assimilated. Resistence is futile
Zelos,
Ever thought of running for President?
if we had president in sweden i would. But i dont think the assimilation and resistence is futile politics is good
logic gives the logical answers, not right ones.
best case i can think of unfortunately comes from a work of fiction but i don't believe this makes it any less valid,
in the movie IRobot our technology forcefully tries to stop us from doing what we seem to do best, destroying ourselves and lots of other things. in doing so they try to violate mankinds freedom.
this is the logical thing to do to keep man alive, i however (and possibly others) do not think this is right. perhaps an emotional viewpoint is needed to see this idea.
emotion can be painful, but something in this world has to be.
That is logical to limit mans freedom. And it is the right thing to do with our current emotional thinking.
the actions of the few should restrict the freedom of all?
Wasn't that something Spock from star trek used to say? 8)the actions of the few should restrict the freedom of all?
No, to expensive. Geneticly manipulate humans so emotions is gone.the actions of the few should restrict the freedom of all?
HA, nice thought but definately not what i ment.No, to expensive. Geneticly manipulate humans so emotions is gone.the actions of the few should restrict the freedom of all?
i mean the actions of the few people, ie not the majority of humanity, that cause havok on us all.
why should everyone pay for THERE crimes.
however logic may dictate that it is easier and more cost effective to dump the latest batch of chemical waste into the nearest creek, dam or river than actually disposing of it properly.
everyone shall pay for the crime they are quilty of.why should everyone pay for THERE crimes.
logic dictates doing such will have a feedback that may not be desireble. therefor logicly the best way is to either transform it into usefull things or disposal of it from the planet if its not possible in any otehr wayhowever logic may dictate that it is easier and more cost effective to dump the latest batch of chemical waste into the nearest creek, dam or river than actually disposing of it properly.
good... then my freedom will not be restricted in such a way that i have to fight the system. be it logically or emotionally.
logically we have a negative impact on the environment no matter what our society does, the nature of it leads to large energy consumption and large amounts of waste... so logically we have a negative feedback on the planet, is it not logical to destroy us?
Logic dictates that since we have a impact no matter what we do we shall not care about it. But unneccisery amount of destruction is illogicallogically we have a negative impact on the environment no matter what our society does, the nature of it leads to large energy consumption and large amounts of waste... so logically we have a negative feedback on the planet, is it not logical to destroy us?
Is that 'superior' logic - it sure looks like it :wink:
Superior logic comes from superior biengs. And since it came from me i am superior
Hi,Do you rather be entirely logical, or entirely emotional?
I think we need a fine balance between them too.
for god sake. this question is about that you CANT choose between
Calm down! Although i am new around here i have noticed straight away you are quite nervous the way you reply to people... Chill out. :-D
Zelos,
it appears from your fondness for certain star trek characters and some of your answers on recent posts that you have worded your question incorrectly.
It seems to me that what you actually meant to write was:
Would you rather be:
A borg
or
A human being
:wink:
I think I know which one you'd pick................
Chill out? Ohhh.......This could go so wrong. Ehh..Zelos please take it easy on him?! :wink:
At the end of the day I want to be a logical mix of emotions!
Should i be afraid that i can't speak (write) or have an opinion because of this superior being called Zelos might not like it? :wink:
Yeah he might 'zap' your little world!
He is so superior that he has declared females without males are apes,
infinit :wink: y has a real numberic value,
matter can be made by shining a torch through a set of magnets [or something like that]
I can't wait to hear what little gem he/she comes up with next!
Now billco it’s not nice to talk back to somebody’s behind, or is it behind somebody’s back?
This is the right version. :wink:or is it behind somebody’s back?
first of all i am chilled. but i wonder why my ass is steaming. anyhow.
they would be apes without us as best, we would be apes at best without themHe is so superior that he has declared females without males are apes,
TO INFINITE AND BEYONDinfinit y has a real numberic value,
hu?matter can be made by shining a torch through a set of magnets
what i have come up with yet is, well nothingI can't wait to hear what little gem he/she comes up with next!
you mean Vulcan or what ever species that posses no logic? human is not one of themA borg
or
A human being
I´ll answer like billco did. I am superior i am perfect so dont mess with me.it appears from your fondness for certain star trek characters and some of your answers on recent posts that you have worded your question incorrectly.
as Q said:
No, I meant:
A borg
or
A human being
Being as the two parts to your poll are:
Logical
or
Emotional
Do you deny that humans do not possess emotion?
Edit:- Though if you persist in arguing, I must point out that this shouldn't be taken too literally as I'm sure you are aware :? , the characters in the star trek universe aren't actually real......
borg arent logical. like that. THey are rather like machine. They do what they are "programmed" to do. to archive perfection. and those means they have have come to be the way they try to achive itA borg
or
A human being
Being as the two parts to your poll are:
Logical
or
Emotional
no, what i ment was that humans posses both logical and emotional parts. mostly emotional. i was looking for a species that wasent logical but only emotionalDo you deny that humans do not possess emotion?
yes i am. But the line between reality and fantasy is thin as a plank lenght. for the brain thou there is no differensEdit:- Though if you persist in arguing, I must point out that this shouldn't be taken too literally as I'm sure you are aware , the characters in the star trek universe aren't actually real......
I Know it seems to casual observers that Zelos and I are always at odds, and that if I said the world was round he would say it was flat, but remember this, you need two different ends before you have a complete pencil!
It does seem like you two chase each other around this forum....I Know it seems to casual observers that Zelos and I are always at odds, and that if I said the world was round he would say it was flat, but remember this, you need two different ends before you have a complete pencil!
we are not entirely opposite all the time. once in a while we agrees. but yeah we are mostly opposties, he is old, i am not
i have perfect young boy, he dont
logically i am human and humans are emotional.
logically i must be illogical.
i wondered why the monkies started dancing about OUTSIDE of my head.
I think you can best find out which one to choose by looking which one you use the most. The more you use something the more important it is.
September 8th, 2006, 03:21 AM
Logical is saying, "I rely on probability," "Things are more likely to happen than not [vice versa]," and "There is a reason for everything." Emotional is saying, "It was meant to happen," "I love/hate ..."
Just some of hundreds of sayings that people use, which reflect their positions on the choice between logical or emotional. I think most people would want a little of both. Conflicts and arguments allow for the best possible outcome.
Some people are emotional, while others are logical. But the ones who succeed or do well are the ones who are logical and know when to be emotional or at least are not afraid to become emotional.
*Emotions are difficult to analyze and discuss because we are often caught off guard by their abrupt appearance. Then emotions good and bad end up clouding our judgements and our ability to use logic and think/focus.
I believe I am a person who uses logic to eat healthy food, read about news and new scientific discoveries, and ultimately live a safe life. Then I can become an emotional person who eats tasty unhealthy foods once in a while, reads fiction and watches television shows, and then lives a little by hanging out with friends and embracing any emotions that come my way.
I am surrounded by beautiful creatures whom treat me well because I acknowledge them as perfect and superior. 8)we are not entirely opposite all the time. once in a while we agrees. but yeah we are mostly opposties, he is old, i am not
i have perfect young boy, he dont
I am not sure what he means by "i have perfect young boy" It may be something uniquely Swedish.
My Senility is down to my age..... :wink:
boy is body without the d
well, atleast i know its wrong to lieI am surrounded by beautiful creatures whom treat me well because I acknowledge them as perfect and superior.
I refer metaphorically of course to all the ladies in my life.
infinite is a hard concept to understand. just as many 0s are hard to understand for normal people"Infinite density can only exist in the mind"
I would say both is important.
For example if you love your spouse very much yet one day have a massive argument with them, your emotion would tell you to leave them. But it is at this point you cannot just rely on your emotion but you must use your knowledge to get through this situation. Knowledge that you still love eachother but you are going through a tough time etc.
Let knowledge and logic be the piolet for your plane ride, while emotion sits in the passenger seat.
Effervescent
And yet I don’t think you would leave if you were purely emotional. You still have feelings for the other witch makes you decide that you will stay. Though I do agree we need bith emotions and logic I think we need emotions the most to communicate with, understand and live with other peopleI would say both is important.
For example if you love your spouse very much yet one day have a massive argument with them, your emotion would tell you to leave them. But it is at this point you cannot just rely on your emotion but you must use your knowledge to get through this situation. Knowledge that you still love eachother but you are going through a tough time etc.
Let knowledge and logic be the piolet for your plane ride, while emotion sits in the passenger seat.
Effervescent
If you are having trouble understanding the concept of infinity, PM me, believe me, it really is an easy thing to grasp.
I find the concept of zero difficult to understand..If you are having trouble understanding the concept of infinity, PM me, believe me, it really is an easy thing to grasp.
Mr U
I voted logical because emotions blur logic, and logic is the way to go for the most advantages.
0 is nothing.
Imperfection is nothing
Humans are imperfect
Humans are nothing
Borg is perfect
Yeah thanks zelos. I think we get the message!!!Borg is perfect
perfection cannot be repeated to many times. since its so perfectYeah thanks zelos. I think we get the message!!!
And...do you use logic telling your perfection or are you just blinded by emotion
Perfection is only a relative term, you are only perfect if you can be compared against something else ie imperfect. Since you have said in the past you are a one-off, unique, there is nothing to compare you with, you cannot be perfect. I hope that the paradox you have created does not cause a short circuit in your primary controller. We'd all miss you...perfection cannot be repeated to many times. since its so perfectYeah thanks zelos. I think we get the message!!!
As for the rest of us we can be compared against each other we are perfect examples of imperfections, therefore it is we who are 'perfect' and you are simply 'unclassifiable'
im using emotions to make a joke yesAnd...do you use logic telling your perfection or are you just blinded by emotion
'Perfect' Borgs do not make jokes... ergo....im using emotions to make a joke yesAnd...do you use logic telling your perfection or are you just blinded by emotion
i got MultiPersinal Disorder
i am partly borg, partly me
balanced
Well balanced - a [silicon] chip on both shoulders!
balanced!
I had a thought on this just last night.
Usually, while I'm driving, I listen to the radio. And almost always I listen to talk radio on the AM channels. Last night, the show topic just didn't interest me so I switched to the FM and listened to music.
I noticed that certain songs brought emotions out of me - old memories and such.
As for which is better - emotion or logic - I do not know. But maybe you can tell which kind of person you are by what you most listen to on the radio....
Cheers,
william
Hi,
I also had a second thought about this...
My answer is: Do you like better a square screwdriver or a star shaped one?
Let me explain:
Logic has it's uses, but not all the time... Logic applyes to vast problems that do not involve human lives,
Emotion emplyes when the subject concerns humans or any living life form.
Let me give you an example:
A man and a woman are driving (in the same car). The car slips and turns upside down. The man comes out of the car untouched but the woman is stuck under a wheel and can't get out of that position. The man know that there is a gas station one mile away from his position and that he can reach it in 15 minutes. (The man has no way of communicating)
Now, let's attack the problem:
Man under influence of logic: The man would run for the gas station, trying to get help to rescue the woman...
Man under influence of emotion: The man knowing that he isn't strong enough but not wanting to leave the woman alone in case she dies stays besides the woman waiting for a car to pass...
What happened?
Logic: It took the man 20 minutes to get the ambulance to the emplacement of the car; the woman died suffocation (her lungs were crushed).
Emotion: The man under the influence of adrenalin decided to give a try by lifting the car... The adrenalin multiplyed the man's strenght by 7 and he managed lifted the car. The woman only had two broken ribs.
I hope you understand my point,
L.E.A.P.
this can logic do aswell.Emotion emplyes when the subject concerns humans or any living life form.
For your story the most logical thing would be to try to help her on the spot but if that doesnt work then its for you to run away. 7 times fold strenght? get real
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