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    "Leaders of the global science community have issued joint statements to world leaders meeting at the G8 summit later this month in the US."

    BBC News - 'Save the planet', science leaders urge G8 governments


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    lol...

    You're kidding.

    The planet will be fine. If anything, these people are worried about their own hides.


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    "If anything, these people are worried about their own hides."


    Well, that's all any of us are worried about. The rock we live on will keep on hurtling through space with or without the minor biological skin that sustains us. Every other planet we know anything about does perfectly well without one.

    I must say I wondered about that headline. I didn't see the expression in the articles I've seen about the presentation.
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    I wrote and recorded a song called "Save The Planet."


    SAVE THE PLANET
    Jim Colyer

    We're floating on a grain of sand in the vastness of space
    If future generations are going to inherit this place
    We've got to Save The Planet
    Do something while there's still time
    Save The Planet
    This earth is yours and mine

    The tropical rainforest is disappearing more everyday
    We'll never replace it, we'd better not burn it away
    Save The Planet
    The wonders of nature are free
    Save The Planet
    Have you ever planted a tree?

    If the skies are blue
    And the oceans too
    Isn't this a better home for me and you?
    If the air is clean
    And the land is green
    Wouldn't you like to be part of this lovely scene?

    solo

    I'm thinking of the animals that once roamed the African plain
    Their numbers have dwindled, pretty soon none will remain
    Save The Planet
    Do something while there's still time
    Save The Planet
    This earth is yours and mine
    Save The Planet
    The wonders of nature are free
    Save The Planet
    Have you ever planted a tree?

    Save The Planet
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    Save The Planet, Save The Planet
    Save The Planet, Save The Planet
    Save The Planet, Save The Planet
    Save The Planet, Save The Planet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Colyer View Post
    I wrote and recorded a song called "Save The Planet."


    SAVE THE PLANET
    Jim Colyer

    We're floating on a grain of sand in the vastness of space
    If future generations are going to inherit this place
    We've got to Save The Planet
    Do something while there's still time
    Save The Planet
    This earth is yours and mine

    The tropical rainforest is disappearing more everyday
    We'll never replace it, we'd better not burn it away
    Save The Planet
    The wonders of nature are free
    Save The Planet
    Have you ever planted a tree?

    If the skies are blue
    And the oceans too
    Isn't this a better home for me and you?
    If the air is clean
    And the land is green
    Wouldn't you like to be part of this lovely scene?

    solo

    I'm thinking of the animals that once roamed the African plain
    Their numbers have dwindled, pretty soon none will remain
    Save The Planet
    Do something while there's still time
    Save The Planet
    This earth is yours and mine
    Save The Planet
    The wonders of nature are free
    Save The Planet
    Have you ever planted a tree?

    Save The Planet
    Save The Planet
    Save The Planet
    Save The Planet
    Save The Planet, Save The Planet
    Save The Planet, Save The Planet
    Save The Planet, Save The Planet
    Save The Planet, Save The Planet
    Save The Planet
    Save The Planet

    Jim Colyer ascap


    I have been a fan of country music for around 15 years.

    Country music has a real subject.

    The songs are about things like,

    the time you spend with your kids,
    your parents moral values,
    girls breaking your heart,
    the street you grew up on,
    your mother,
    your father,
    how people steal things,
    the sadness of Sept 11,
    payback for Sept 11,
    learning your gonna die from cancer,
    your child being born,
    your mom and dad no longer being around,
    leaving your wife at home to go fishing,
    drinking beer,
    bar fights,
    morals,
    and values,


    I think country music, should have songs about saving the world. I bet several big name male and female country stars, would sing these songs if they were cd/radio quality.

    I went to your page and heard 2 songs, they were very, very high quality. I feel guilty for saying the following Sir. But if you know other country music song writers, you should pass the "saving the world" song idea to them.

    Maybe if you are friends with other writers, you all could work together on one. If a few writers worked on it, some one is going to create a lyrics/music style, that would fit in with today's country music. I fully believe its possible. And I think some big name star would sing it.



    About your song posted above, I say this on behalf of my musical friends, NICE!!

    I say this myself, I was touched. I am proud to live in the same country as you Sir.

    Chad.

    p.s. Think about the "save the world" country music song idea. I would love to turn on the radio one day, and hear a country song, with the subject of your song above. Think about if all country music fans, listened to songs like yours above. The world would have to be, just a little bit better place.

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    According to Dr Michael Clegg of the US National Academy of Sciences: "In the long term, the pressing concerns are managing the environment in a way that assures that future generations have a quality of life that's at least as equivalent to the quality of life we enjoy today."

    Yeah, is that what someone said at the dawn of civilization, or the industrial revolution? We're doing a pretty good job... (can you read my sarcasm?).

    How about population control? I mean...

    "The three so-called "G-Science" statements say that priority should be given to finding ways of finding a coherent way of simultaneously meeting water and energy needs, building resilience to natural disasters and developing better ways of measuring greenhouse gas emissions in order to see if individual countries are meeting their international obligations to reduce emissions."

    Besides greenhosue gases a number of problems would be solved if there were less people. I remain unconvinced that green house gases is a serious problem. I would like some unpolluted air, water and food though.

    Most people in the G8 countries can due with less energy. What if... the human race is a natural disaster?

    Sure, lets save the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBOB View Post
    ... What if... the human race is a natural disaster? Sure, lets save the planet.
    Please stop thinking of the humans as a natural disaster. (that is the themesong of the mentally ill self loathing whailing whining moaners of doom and gloom)
    We are likely destined to have control of this planet and our shared co-evolutionary biom.

    (simple developemental psychology)
    If we think ourselves a disaster, sooner or later, we will live up to that perception.
    If we think ourselves the beings most likely to husband and care for the shared co-evolutionary biom as no other beings currently on this earth can, then, sooner or later, we will live up to that perception.

    Let us concentrate on and aim for the good we can do.
    every day, every minute with every breath we take.

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    Sculptor, we are basically a natural disaster, in that there are now over 6,973,738,433 of us. Most in areas that do not have the resources to support that amount of people, and many many in cultures/religions that actively advocate against birth control.
    If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. -Thorin Oakenshield

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    Birth rates are down below sustainability in all the northern countries. Negative population growth(shrinkage) is a fact of life in the industrialized world.
    Where birth rates are high, they are using the products of our industries, and farms. Birth control would be easy---just stop feeding them---or we could just sell them weapons, and let them reduce their populations that way.


    What do you gain by thinking of yourself (and, via existentialism--your species) as a natural disaster.
    Really:
    You are on the wrong path.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    Sculptor, we are basically a natural disaster, in that there are now over 6,973,738,433 of us. Most in areas that do not have the resources to support that amount of people, and many many in cultures/religions that actively advocate against birth control.
    I am not a natural disaster, but all the rest of you are. You are hogging all my resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sculptor View Post
    Birth rates are down below sustainability in all the northern countries. Negative population growth(shrinkage) is a fact of life in the industrialized world.
    Where birth rates are high, they are using the products of our industries, and farms. Birth control would be easy---just stop feeding them---or we could just sell them weapons, and let them reduce their populations that way.


    What do you gain by thinking of yourself (and, via existentialism--your species) as a natural disaster.
    Really:
    You are on the wrong path.
    I would argue that the wrong path is to assume that the human species, since we are a product of nature, is not responsible for the massive waves of extinctions, habitat decimation and global shifts in climate.

    Noting that birth rates are below sustainability in first world countries brings up what point?

    An better method would be to teach the efficacy of birth control and ease restrictions on immigration/emigration

    "our industries"? when did this become a "mine/theirs" debate?
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    Birth control would be easy---just stop feeding them--
    No need. Average number of children per woman across the world is now ........ 2. Right across the world.
    The only ones where population is likely to increase are Afghanistan and Congo - because of violence.

    Hans Rosling: Religions and babies | Video on TED.com

    Hans Rosling tells us how to reduce populations and it's completely unsurprising.
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    adelady: nice link(love ted talks) 10,000,000,000 of us by 2100...then we level off...wowie zowie(mothers of invention, freak out album)

    US midwest drought likely to reduce crops(much of which is exported) by 20% this year----
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    someone is gonna go hungry(or pay more)
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    Hungry, for many. Starvation, for some. Pay more, for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBOB View Post
    According to Dr Michael Clegg of the US National Academy of Sciences: "In the long term, the pressing concerns are managing the environment in a way that assures that future generations have a quality of life that's at least as equivalent to the quality of life we enjoy today."

    Yeah, is that what someone said at the dawn of civilization, or the industrial revolution? We're doing a pretty good job... (can you read my sarcasm?).

    How about population control? I mean...

    "The three so-called "G-Science" statements say that priority should be given to finding ways of finding a coherent way of simultaneously meeting water and energy needs, building resilience to natural disasters and developing better ways of measuring greenhouse gas emissions in order to see if individual countries are meeting their international obligations to reduce emissions."

    Besides greenhosue gases a number of problems would be solved if there were less people. I remain unconvinced that green house gases is a serious problem. I would like some unpolluted air, water and food though.

    Most people in the G8 countries can due with less energy. What if... the human race is a natural disaster?

    Sure, lets save the planet.

    You said, "I remain unconvinced that green house gases is a serious problem."


    I sure as hell hope you are right.

    But you can pick up any encyclopedia, and it says carbon is a greenhouse gas. Then it will show you a picture of Earth, and in the picture carbon in the atmosphere, is causing sunlight reflected off the Earth, to bounce back to Earth again. Just like a greenhouse.

    The average American produces about 15-20 metric tons of carbon each year, from cars, trucks, trains, factories, and coal power plants.


    Then I hear how scientists want to go to Mars, and "terraform" the planet.

    Terraforming means, going to Mars and releasing certain gases, in order to change Mars atmosphere, so that humans can live there.

    We are terraforming Earth with carbon. Why terraform Earth?

    And if just 1 American, puts 15-20 tons of terraforming gas into the atmosphere each year.

    How many tons of carbon, is everyone on Earth putting into the atmosphere each year?


    Personally, Global warming is my #1 fear for the human species.
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    I would love to start terraforming Mars real soon. That way if we happen to terraform Earth too bad with carbon, some of us could go live on Mars.


    I heard scientists say on tv recently, that strange weather conditions around Texas, must be from human carbon release.

    Maybe they are wrong, but why take the chance?
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    At the risk of being off-topic, I will say that it is not "save the planet" but "save the humans". The planet, and life on it, will be fine long after humanity has screwed itself.

    Look at the area around Chernobyl. It has never been so lushly awesome while people were there.
    It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
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    If people were honest, it would be save our planet rather than save the planet.
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    jeez
    doom and gloom guys
    maybe you all need a nap
    after humanity has screwed itself.
    Global warming is my #1 fear for the human species.
    after your nap, start thinking about what you are gonna do to make it better
    THEN DO THAT!
    and stop bitching whining moaning and complaining and forcasting doom and gloom

    I think it was marty robbins that had a song wherein he sang
    "lets forget about the lying and the crying and the shooting and the dying and the fellow with the switchblade knife,
    lets think about living, lets think about life"

    philosophy from music?!?
    yeh, whenever it fits
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    Quote Originally Posted by chad View Post

    Personally, Global warming is my #1 fear for the human species.
    Plants and animals produce CO2 through respiration, not just industrialization. I personally think humans give themselves too much credit and that this earth is acting just as it would without us.

    That being said, I have faith in life. It's come a long way, and will not go so easily into the night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyoko View Post
    At the risk of being off-topic, I will say that it is not "save the planet" but "save the humans". The planet, and life on it, will be fine long after humanity has screwed itself.

    Look at the area around Chernobyl. It has never been so lushly awesome while people were there.
    I agree. I remember at my old community college (and tons of other buildings) the janitors were constantly cutting the vines back. I have no doubt that entire campus would be consumed within a year or two if people were to disappear. The plant material would weaken and break down the structure which would then decompose. Even toxic oil can be metabolised by some forms of fungus. Nature will find a way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sculptor View Post
    jeez
    doom and gloom guys
    maybe you all need a nap
    after humanity has screwed itself.
    Global warming is my #1 fear for the human species.
    after your nap, start thinking about what you are gonna do to make it better
    THEN DO THAT!
    and stop bitching whining moaning and complaining and forcasting doom and gloom

    I think it was marty robbins that had a song wherein he sang
    "lets forget about the lying and the crying and the shooting and the dying and the fellow with the switchblade knife,
    lets think about living, lets think about life"

    philosophy from music?!?
    yeh, whenever it fits

    I actually need a nap, more than you could ever imagine. The song you were thinking of was actually sung by Bob Luman. A youtube link to the song is bellow.


    Bob Luman - Let's Think About Living - YouTube


    Heres to me getting some sleep, and all of you all, doing well.
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    stop bitching whining moaning and complaining and forcasting doom and gloom

    start thinking about what you are gonna do to make it better

    THEN DO THAT!

    I've switched your sentences around a bit. I don'r see the 'doom and gloom' problem the way you do.

    It's now 2012. Think back a century ago, 1912. Our grand and great-grandparents knew something was afoot. How many of them had any idea that the next 100 years would bring .....
    WW1, flu epidemic, the Great Depression, WW2, the Holocaust.

    Now we're into baby boomer era - those that were born in the 1940s anyway. And how did we grow up? We started off with the Korean War, lived with polio epidemics until the mid-late 50s and with the relentless fears of not just nuclear war, but annihilation, through to the time of the Vietnam War.

    And all through it, people danced and sang and married and had kids. They built houses and grew gardens, drove buses and qualified for trades and professional jobs. They went to church and picnics and beaches. Life went on. (They also put up with rationing. They suffered, cried, starved and died. We witnessed the horrors of the concentration camps in Europe and the ghastly images of POWs released from Changi. Then we got those pictures from Vietnam.)

    But nobody knew 100 years ago that this was in store. Would they have done things differently if they'd known? We don't know.

    We have a sketchy picture of what might be in store for us in the next few decades. Having seen how our forebears managed during a truly horrible 60 years, I see no reason for us to think we can't make it through whatever the next 60 years will do to us. We'll dance, sing, build, grow, suffer, starve. die, play games with children, take care of our ageing parents, run from fires and floods, move away from drought and rising seas. It will be at least as ugly, expensive, and difficult as last century was. But we know we can live through that, so we can live through this.
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    [QUOTE=chad;339086. The song you were thinking of was actually sung by Bob Luman. A youtube link to the song is bellow.
    [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLAA9ioRsQ0&feature=related"]Bob Luman - Let's Think About Living - YouTube[/URL] QUOTE]

    Thanx Chad
    Ok, memory is a peculiar thing, Bob had mentioned Marty Robbins in the song---so---anyway, nice song, nice memories, thanks for the link.
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